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tokar
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« on: November 08, 2008, 06:00:06 PM »

Assume economic events, Olympics and Russia-Georgia still occur.

Few things you have to consider:
1) Hillary winning would have disenfranchised african americans, and that would have made african american turnout low.
2) Ditto for youth vote
3) McCain wouldn't have chosen Palin.  Probably would have chosen Lieberman, or Giuliani.
4) Hillary performed well in NH, which should have overcome any sort of "McCain possibility".
5) Hillary is from Scranton, so she would have had no problem winning the PA vote.
6) McCain knowing PA probably wasn't in play would have spent more time elsewhere.

With that said...
ME, NH, VT, RI, CT, MA, NY, NJ, PA, DE, DC, MD, MI, OH, IL, MN, WI would have been in the bag for her.
CA, OR, WA and HI are also in the bag.
Arkansas would have been a toss-up.  Might have actually gone to Hillary.  I'd say it would have given Bill's influence.
Florida i would give to Hillary too.
New Mexico would probably come down to the wire and gone to Hillary.

All McCain states minus Arkansas would have been redder, including Missouri.  Thats 165.
Because of the disenfranchised african american vote, North Carolina would have gone to McCain easily.
African American vote I think had some play in VA, so I'd give VA to McCain.
I would give NV and IN to McCain...
I would also give CO and IA to McCain.

That gives me 310-228.
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tokar
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E: -9.87, S: -6.87

« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 06:55:03 PM »

The national exit poll shows that Hillary would have defeated McCain by 11 points nationally.

Clinton 52
McCain 41
Wouldn't have vote 5

Should would have done about as well or better than Obama, she just would have done it in different places.

Considering the national polls (the average of them all, at least) got Obama's margin right (~6+), I'll take that value (Clinton+11) with some level of confidence.

Different places, indeed...
She probably would have had larger margins of victories in OH and FL, while picking up a lot more votes in places like WV, KY, TN, LA and AR (all of which went for Clinton in 92 and 96).
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