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Tender Branson
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« Reply #900 on: September 27, 2009, 07:50:33 AM »
According to RP Online again, CDU-General Secretary Ronald Pofalla has "won" in his district 113 (Kleve), according to votes counted so far:

He beats Barbara Hendricks (SPD).

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/kleve/762898/Pofalla-liegt-vor-Hendricks.html
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« Reply #901 on: September 27, 2009, 07:52:53 AM »

Yay, Bavaria. Bavaria's cool, I somehow like it.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #902 on: September 27, 2009, 08:14:20 AM »
RP Online again:

Michael Groschek (SPD) "wins" in district 118 (Wesel III mit Dinslaken).

He "beats" Marie-Luise Dött (CDU).

In 2005, the district was 58-26 for the SPD. Dött already ran in 2005, Groschek is new.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/dinslaken/762904/Groschek-auf-dem-Weg-nach-Berlin.html

Also, Wesel I:

Tight race between Dr. Hans-Ulrich Krüger (SPD) and Sabine Weiss (CDU).

District was 49-39 for the SPD in 2005.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/wesel/762906/Enges-Rennen-zeichnet-sich-ab.html
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« Reply #903 on: September 27, 2009, 08:20:41 AM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on September 27, 2009, 08:14:20 AM
RP Online again:

Michael Groschek (SPD) "wins" in district 118 (Wesel III mit Dinslaken).

He "beats" Marie-Luise Dött (CDU).

In 2005, the district was 58-26 for the SPD. Dött already ran in 2005, Groschek is new.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/dinslaken/762904/Groschek-auf-dem-Weg-nach-Berlin.html

Also, Wesel I:

Tight race between Dr. Hans-Ulrich Krüger (SPD) and Sabine Weiss (CDU).

District was 49-39 for the SPD in 2005.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/wesel/762906/Enges-Rennen-zeichnet-sich-ab.html
That article has a claim about polling stations having closed.

Joke source.
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« Reply #904 on: September 27, 2009, 08:21:52 AM »
Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: Tender Branson on September 27, 2009, 08:14:20 AM
RP Online again:

Michael Groschek (SPD) "wins" in district 118 (Wesel III mit Dinslaken).

He "beats" Marie-Luise Dött (CDU).

In 2005, the district was 58-26 for the SPD. Dött already ran in 2005, Groschek is new.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/dinslaken/762904/Groschek-auf-dem-Weg-nach-Berlin.html

Also, Wesel I:

Tight race between Dr. Hans-Ulrich Krüger (SPD) and Sabine Weiss (CDU).

District was 49-39 for the SPD in 2005.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/wesel/762906/Enges-Rennen-zeichnet-sich-ab.html
That article has a claim about polling stations having closed.

Joke source.

Yeah, I also was a bit suspicious. I thought it could be like in Austria that some places close earlier. Does every precinct in Germany have open until 6pm ?
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« Reply #905 on: September 27, 2009, 08:23:06 AM »
I vote not to lock this thread even when the other one opens, so that we can a) still react to earlier comments, b) use this thread, as the proper place, for any post election discussion of German issues that aren't direct election analysis. (e.g. For coalition talks etc.)
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« Reply #906 on: September 27, 2009, 08:24:19 AM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on September 27, 2009, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: Tender Branson on September 27, 2009, 08:14:20 AM
RP Online again:

Michael Groschek (SPD) "wins" in district 118 (Wesel III mit Dinslaken).

He "beats" Marie-Luise Dött (CDU).

In 2005, the district was 58-26 for the SPD. Dött already ran in 2005, Groschek is new.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/dinslaken/762904/Groschek-auf-dem-Weg-nach-Berlin.html

Also, Wesel I:

Tight race between Dr. Hans-Ulrich Krüger (SPD) and Sabine Weiss (CDU).

District was 49-39 for the SPD in 2005.

http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/wesel/762906/Enges-Rennen-zeichnet-sich-ab.html
That article has a claim about polling stations having closed.

Joke source.

Yeah, I also was a bit suspicious. I thought it could be like in Austria that some places close earlier. Does every precinct in Germany have open until 6pm ?
Yes.

And it's problematic to count absentee ballots this early too - the mail won't deliver any more today (and it's too late by tomorrow), but people may still hand-deliver theirs.
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« Reply #907 on: September 27, 2009, 08:24:33 AM »
Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 08:23:06 AM
I vote not to lock this thread even when the other one opens, so that we can a) still react to earlier comments, b) use this thread, as the proper place, for any post election discussion of German issues that aren't direct election analysis. (e.g. For coalition talks etc.)

I agree.
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« Reply #908 on: September 27, 2009, 08:31:19 AM »
Yeah, makes sense.


The people in the silly costumes next to the CSU poster...
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« Reply #909 on: September 27, 2009, 08:33:38 AM »

Bavarians always dress like that.
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« Reply #910 on: September 27, 2009, 08:34:40 AM »
They don't.
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« Reply #911 on: September 27, 2009, 08:42:42 AM »
According to the Bundeswahlleiter, turnout at 2pm is down by 6% compared with 2005 in all of Germany:

2009: 36.1%
2005: 41.9%
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« Reply #912 on: September 27, 2009, 08:43:56 AM »
Very good!
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« Reply #913 on: September 27, 2009, 08:45:26 AM »
Don't think it's exactly polite to cheer falling turnout. Do so only in private! Tongue
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« Reply #914 on: September 27, 2009, 08:49:08 AM »
Quote from: This is the North - where we do what we want! on September 27, 2009, 08:45:26 AM
Don't think it's exactly polite to cheer falling turnout. Do so only in private! Tongue

Everyone knows what it means Smiley
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« Reply #915 on: September 27, 2009, 09:33:52 AM »
Frankfurt 4pm 56.3 (-6.5)
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« Reply #916 on: September 27, 2009, 09:37:23 AM »
So for those like me who haven't been paying attention lower turnout means... better results for the non-CDU/SDP Parties?
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« Reply #917 on: September 27, 2009, 09:38:54 AM »
Quote from: Ghyl Tarvoke on September 27, 2009, 09:37:23 AM
So for those like me who haven't been paying attention lower turnout means... better results for the non-CDU/SDP Parties?

I think it's more a case of the CDU benefiting from lower turnout than the smaller parties - though Lewis Norwegian Coastal Town will know more.
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« Reply #918 on: September 27, 2009, 09:39:35 AM »
Quote from: Ghyl Tarvoke on September 27, 2009, 09:37:23 AM
So for those like me who haven't been paying attention lower turnout means... better results for the non-CDU/SDP Parties?

Lower turnout traditionally benefits CDU because its voters tend to be the most reliable.
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« Reply #919 on: September 27, 2009, 09:41:49 AM »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 27, 2009, 09:39:35 AM
Quote from: Ghyl Tarvoke on September 27, 2009, 09:37:23 AM
So for those like me who haven't been paying attention lower turnout means... better results for the non-CDU/SDP Parties?

Lower turnout traditionally benefits CDU because its voters tend to be the most reliable.

Ah. I see.
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« Reply #920 on: September 27, 2009, 09:43:47 AM »
Quote from: Ghyl Tarvoke on September 27, 2009, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 27, 2009, 09:39:35 AM
Quote from: Ghyl Tarvoke on September 27, 2009, 09:37:23 AM
So for those like me who haven't been paying attention lower turnout means... better results for the non-CDU/SDP Parties?

Lower turnout traditionally benefits CDU because its voters tend to be the most reliable.

Ah. I see.

You know how it is - old people always vote more often.
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« Reply #921 on: September 27, 2009, 09:45:15 AM »
It's bad for the SPD. It's probably bad for the Left. It's good for the CDU. It's good for the Greens. It may be good for really minor parties. Still, in broad terms it's better for the Right.
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« Reply #922 on: September 27, 2009, 09:46:20 AM »
Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
It's bad for the SPD. It's probably bad for the Left. It's good for the CDU. It's good for the Greens. It may be good for really minor parties. Still, in broad terms it's better for the Right.

I assume it's also good for the FDP, no?
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« Reply #923 on: September 27, 2009, 09:46:40 AM »
I just wanted to note that I did the Wahlomat and got strange results. As I recall:

1. FDP
2. Pirates
3. SDP and NDP

Bit of a gap

5. Die Grüne
6. CDU
7. Zentrum
8. Die Linke


Embarassing to have the NDP so high up, of course, but that's mostly my views on the EU I think.
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« Reply #924 on: September 27, 2009, 09:59:37 AM »
Quote from: Minister of Free Time Hashemite on September 27, 2009, 09:46:20 AM
Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
It's bad for the SPD. It's probably bad for the Left. It's good for the CDU. It's good for the Greens. It may be good for really minor parties. Still, in broad terms it's better for the Right.

I assume it's also good for the FDP, no?
Not obviously. Probably. Who knows?
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