2009 State and Federal elections in Germany

[Tender Branson]

As a German citizen living abroad I have already cast my vote: first vote CDU (CDU wins the direct mandate) second vote for the FDP (giving the FDP more votes on the federal level).

For which constituency if I may ask ?

Constituency 112. My MB is Uwe Schummer (CDU) and I am sure he will win again.

Yeah, almost the same situation like in Hans-im-Glück's district. Also CDU+11 ...

[Hans-im-Glück]

I'll vote with my first vote SPD (I don't think the SPD wins in Hof, but sometimes it gives a miracle; 1998 the SPD wins the last time Hof); with my second vote I'll vote Green

Still Friedrich (CSU) vs. Ernstberger (SPD) ? They are dueling since 1998, right ?

Ernstberger won in 1998, then Friedrich twice. I guess Friedrich will drop below 50% this time, but it`s still a CSU+12 district, so a likely result could be 48-37 ...

Yeah, every election the same Both candidates are not very popular here and i don't like both. Ernstberger is for me to conservative. She is speaker of the Seeheimer Kreis. Friedrich is 4 years invincible and you see him only for the election. I never see him in the parlament, maybe he sleeps in the last row. When the CSU wins with +5, then it's much better for the SPD than i expect.

Tomorrow I'm electoral assistant in my polling station. It'll be a boring afternoon.

Why, do you expect low turnout of about 70% ?

I expect 80% turnout in my city, but all people comes from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m., after this time come only a few.

[Cassius Dio]

As a German citizen living abroad I have already cast my vote: first vote CDU (CDU wins the direct mandate) second vote for the FDP (giving the FDP more votes on the federal level).

For which constituency if I may ask ?

Constituency 112. My MB is Uwe Schummer (CDU) and I am sure he will win again.

Yeah, almost the same situation like in Hans-im-Glück's district. Also CDU+11 ...

Yeah, its never a question if the CDU will win. The only question is how high or low the CDU will win.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Here you can see my ballot paper:

http://www.landkreis-wunsiedel.de/stdscripts/dp_downloading.asp?datei=4078.pdf

[Tender Branson]

As a German citizen living abroad I have already cast my vote: first vote CDU (CDU wins the direct mandate) second vote for the FDP (giving the FDP more votes on the federal level).

For which constituency if I may ask ?

Constituency 112. My MB is Uwe Schummer (CDU) and I am sure he will win again.

Yeah, almost the same situation like in Hans-im-Glück's district. Also CDU+11 ...

Yeah, its never a question if the CDU will win. The only question is how high or low the CDU will win.

LOL, exactly:

2005    Uwe Schummer    CDU    47,5 %
2002    Uwe Schummer    CDU    44,1 %
1998    Julius Louven    CDU    44,6 %
1994    Julius Louven    CDU    49,6 %
1990    Julius Louven    CDU    49,6 %
1987    Julius Louven    CDU    51,2 %
1983    Julius Louven    CDU    56,6%
1980    Julius Louven    CDU    49,4 %
1976    Hugo Hammans    CDU    53,9 %
1972    Hugo Hammans    CDU    51,4 %
1969    Hugo Hammans    CDU    55,1 %
1965    Hugo Hammans    CDU    58,3 %
1961    Matthias Hoogen    CDU    60,6 %
1957    Matthias Hoogen    CDU    65,5 %
1953    Matthias Hoogen    CDU    62,7 %
1949    Matthias Hoogen    CDU    43,5 %

[Hans-im-Glück]

Not exactly the same:

The winners in HOF:

SPD  1949 - 1961 - 1965 - 1969 - 1972 - 1976 - 1980 - 1998
CSU  1957 - 1983 - 1987 - 1990 - 1994 - 2002 - 2005
FDP  1953

[minionofmidas]

Random fact: In the last federal elections, the SPD won three of Munich's 25 boroughs. But they weren't the SPD strongholds. They were the Green strongholds. (There aren't any pronounced SPD strongholds in the city, really. These places had not only the Greens' three best results but also the CSU's three worst, and were all broadly speaking three way ties.)

[Hash]

Random fact: In the last federal elections, the SPD won three of Munich's 25 boroughs. But they weren't the SPD strongholds. They were the Green strongholds. (There aren't any pronounced SPD strongholds in the city, really. These places had not only the Greens' three best results but also the CSU's three worst, and were all broadly speaking three way ties.)

Maps!

[minionofmidas]

Random fact: In the last federal elections, the SPD won three of Munich's 25 boroughs. But they weren't the SPD strongholds. They were the Green strongholds. (There aren't any pronounced SPD strongholds in the city, really. These places had not only the Greens' three best results but also the CSU's three worst, and were all broadly speaking three way ties.)

Maps!

I suppose you now want data as well. Coming up...

[minionofmidas]

Order is CSU - SPD - Greens - FDP - Left

city 37.5 - 29.0 - 14.6 - 12.3 - 3.9
01 34.4 - 25.4 - 17.7 - 17.5 - 3.3
02 26.8 - 29.1 - 25.7 - 12.4 - 4.3
03 30.3 - 28.2 - 21.9 - 14.5 - 3.6
04 31.2 - 30.2 - 19.5 - 13.2 - 3.7
05 28.8 - 29.7 - 23.5 - 11.6 - 4.4
06 31.5 - 31.0 - 19.4 - 10.4 - 5.0
07 38.8 - 29.9 - 13.1 - 11.3 - 4.0
08 28.0 - 30.5 - 23.0 -  9.7 - 5.8
09 33.2 - 30.1 - 17.7 - 12.1 - 4.1
10 39.9 - 30.8 - 10.7 - 10.5 - 4.4
11 37.0 - 33.1 - 11.7 -  9.7 - 4.8
12 35.7 - 28.4 - 15.8 - 14.0 - 3.6
13 39.8 - 26.9 - 12.2 - 16.0 - 2.9
14 38.1 - 31.8 - 11.2 - 10.5 - 4.4
15 45.4 - 24.4 - 10.8 - 14.7 - 2.4
16 39.9 - 31.3 - 10.8 - 10.3 - 4.4
17 34.5 - 32.4 - 14.4 -  9.7 - 5.1
18 37.4 - 27.7 - 15.7 - 13.1 - 3.8
19 41.5 - 27.5 - 11.3 - 13.8 - 3.2
20 42.5 - 29.0 - 10.5 - 11.4 - 3.3
21 40.4 - 25.9 - 14.6 - 13.4 - 3.2
22 44.7 - 27.3 - 10.0 - 10.7 - 3.7
23 45.9 - 25.3 - 11.2 - 12.3 - 2.8
24 44.7 - 29.0 -  7.9 - 10.1 - 4.2
25 36.9 - 30.6 - 13.8 - 10.5 - 4.4

[Tender Branson]

can you resize this enormous map please ?

[minionofmidas]

Why don't you just help me push this thread to the next page instead?

[Hash]

Are there any blank+editable ward maps of Munich? I'm tempted to do a city map for 2005.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Why don't you just help me push this thread to the next page instead?

I can help to this.

Here is.

[Hash]

Why don't you just help me push this thread to the next page instead?

I can help to this.

Here is.

By post-padding? Thanks, but no thanks.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

What.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Should we do about results? Last time round we just did all that here, but the forum's changed since then in quite a few ways (more posters for international elections, tendency to spend longer discussing results in the weeks after an election, etc) and doing a results thread's been the norm. And we've just hit 59 pages.

[Hash]

In case my question was buried by trolling and post-padding;

Are there any blank+editable ward maps of Munich? I'm tempted to do a city map for 2005.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

In case my question was buried by trolling and post-padding;

Are there any blank+editable ward maps of Munich? I'm tempted to do a city map for 2005.

Most maps are editable if you know what you're doing

[minionofmidas]

I'm sure that wiki map must be edible*, but I'm prepared to see if I can find a smaller one.

*the German verb used to be "edieren" before computer nerds came along and coined "editieren" because they spoke no Latin and no French, only English.

[minionofmidas]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/M%C3%BCnchen_-_Stadtbezirke_und_Stadtbezirksteile_(Karte).svg/746px-M%C3%BCnchen_-_Stadtbezirke_und_Stadtbezirksteile_(Karte).svg.png

Blank version of the above map. The thin lines are "Stadtbezirksteile", apparently a purely statistical unit comparable to Frankfurt's Stadtteile. I`ve never seen results by them.

[minionofmidas]

http://spd-muenchen-au.de/images/content/map/Karte_BA_05.gif

Tiny clean map with numbers on. Only problem is that the fifth is currently highlighted.

[CO-OWL]

I'll cast my first vote for the CSU (District 238 Coburg-Kronach, CSU+19 in 2005) Same candidates = similar results this time, I guess. Last time the SPD won this district was back in 1998. The victorious SPD candidate is running again this year, but now for the Left Party .

Second vote: Likely FDP (Tactical voting, I'm no big fan of the FDP)


My former district 134 Herford-Minden-Lübbecke II should be much more interesting. SPD+6.5 in 2005, but the long-time SPD incumbent is not seeking reelection. With the long-time CDU MP (list) resigning in 2007 we get fresh candidates for both major parties and I expect a close race this time.

[Franzl]

Good to see we do have some German conservatives here!