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WillK
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« on: November 12, 2008, 07:43:22 am »

Give SPECIFIC reasons and list the poor decisions he made.

Bush.
For starters:
- Wrecked US budget by turning surplus into biggest deficit ever.
- Wrecked US standing in the world with failed diplomatic and war policies.

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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2008, 12:04:27 am »

I vote for Reagan for giving a politically popular voice to an asinine economic concept that, for some time, was the basis for winning presidential elections. Reagan effectively, and maybe proudly used the ignorance of the American public to push through his corporatist agenda. the arms race is also a factor.

Hate on the man that won the cold war?

That Reagan won the cold war is one of the biggest distortions of American history.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2008, 05:44:30 pm »

Reagan didn't "win" the Cold War, but he definitely helped. Ultimately, we didn't win the Cold War, the Soviet Union lost it. Reagan just hastened their loss by restarting the arms race.

He also hastened it by continuing Carter's support for the rebels in Afganistan, though it appears that to that was a bad idea.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 10:40:05 am »

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A result of the Nixon/Ford years.

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I remember them from before Carter took office. 1973?

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Carter mishandled a bad situaton that was created by the Nixon/Ford foreign policy mess.

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That was during the Ford administration. 

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It was higher under Bush (Sr.).

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A result of the Nixon/Ford years.  Military spending went up under Carter.

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I remember the first part, about how we shouldn't be so being obsessively afraid of the commies, since we were better and stronger than them.  The other part I don't remember.   

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 09:17:56 am »

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A result of the Nixon/Ford years.

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I'm going to post the refuation one by one Lunar.

http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Consumer_Price_Index/HistoricalCPI.aspx?rsCPI_currentPage=2

Inflation was double digit throughout 1974 and into early 1975.  Check the source you just provided.   
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 09:20:28 am »

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I remember them from before Carter took office. 1973?

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Sure there were gas lines in 79-80. 
There were also gas lines in 1973. 
Do you remember that?
Do you also remember that Carter didn't become president until 1977?
So how are you going to blame the 1973 gas lines on Carter?
Please explain for us.
Absolutely hysterical for you to come back with comments about selective memory. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 09:45:02 am »

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It was higher under Bush (Sr.).



Here's the Murder and Nonnegligent Homicide rate (according the the Uniform Crime Statistics):

Year          Rate per 100,000 population

1980               10.2     
1989                 8.7
1990                 9.4
1991                 9.8
1992                 9.3


You are being curiously selective in your statistics.

From the same source as you referenced:
Violent Crime Rates/100,000
1977     475.9 
1978    497.8    
1979    548.9
1980    596.6    
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1989      663.1 
1990    731.8
1991     758.1
1992     757.5    


Murder did hit a peak during Carter's years.  But other types of violent crime (ie: forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assualt) were higher under Bush (Sr.)
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 09:49:55 am »

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Carter mishandled a bad situaton that was created by the Nixon/Ford foreign policy mess.

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I did not blamed everything that went wrong on Nixon/Ford.  I did point out some issues where the same phenomenon was seen before or after Carter (gas lines, high crime) or where he inherited a problem not of his own making.   But you seem too blinded by your irrational partisanship to handle fact based discussion.


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