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Question: Who is the worst president of the past 50 years?
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Bush
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Carter
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Nixon/Ford
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CARLHAYDEN
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« on: November 13, 2008, 12:07:43 am »

Its really hard to choose as Nixon, Ford and Carter were all disasters.
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 06:44:37 am »

I'll go ahead and commit heresy by saying that Carter is one of our better presidents. In the past 50 years, he and Eisenhower are the closest we've come to a non-imperial presidency. And while both made major blunders, neither significantly undermined American liberty.

But of course, Johnson did sign the voting rights act, so it's all a mixed bag.

And then you have to take in to account that the Act was redundant in the first place.

Redundant? The 1965 Voting Rights Act was flawed legislation--and certainly, the Act has only gotten worse with time--but hardly redundant.

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True. Of course, he was hardly alone in that regard...

Phil,

Boy, I couldn't disagree with you more.

Do you remember the double digit inflation?

Do you remember the gas lines?

Do you remember the American embassy personnel being held hostage?

Do you remember the attempt to get the Consumer Products Safety Commission to ban firearms?

Do you remember the crime rate was higher in 1980 than at any time in the preceding or succeeding twenty seven years?

Do you remember how the military had been so short of funds it couldn't train or maintain its vehicles?

Do you remember Carter's infamous statement about not fearing communism (and denouncing those who opposed communist expansionism)?
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 07:14:46 pm »

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A result of the Nixon/Ford years.

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I'm going to post the refuation one by one Lunar.

http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Consumer_Price_Index/HistoricalCPI.aspx?rsCPI_currentPage=2
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 07:22:04 pm »

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I remember them from before Carter took office. 1973?

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But, do you rememember the 1979-80 gas lines?  Or do you have selective memory, or severe memory lapses?
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 07:30:06 pm »

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Carter mishandled a bad situaton that was created by the Nixon/Ford foreign policy mess.

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Well its nice of you to admit that that was a "bad situation" and that Carter "mishandled" it,  but your attempt to blame everything that went wrong under Carter on Nixon/Ford is hysterically funny.
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 08:23:02 pm »

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It was higher under Bush (Sr.).



Here's the Murder and Nonnegligent Homicide rate (according the the Uniform Crime Statistics):

Year          Rate per 100,000 population

1980               10.2     
1989                 8.7
1990                 9.4
1991                 9.8
1992                 9.3
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