Huckabee book reignites feud with Romney

[Keystone Phil]

He's right, of course.

Because Huckabee is the perfect icon  for Conservativeism.

I don't think he's saying that he is. The point is that he stands by what he believes; Romney doesn't.

"I was an Independent during Reagan - Bush! I don't want to go back to Reagan - Bush!"

[Keystone Phil]

He's right, of course.

Because Huckabee is the perfect icon  for Conservativeism.

I don't think he's saying that he is. The point is that he stands by what he believes; Romney doesn't.

"I was an Independent during Reagan - Bush! I don't want to go back to Reagan - Bush!"

Haha, that's good.  I don't think you've ever been one of the mindless Romney-haters so I'll pose the question to you now and hopefully you'll be the first to be able to answer it; What in Romney's record has he not stood by besides the obvious and irrelevant abortion switch?

Irrelevant abortion switch? Ha! If we can't get past that point then there's no point arguing this.

We're never going to see eye to eye on this, my friend.

[Keystone Phil]

If you were really looking at this objectively, you'd look at all politicians' inconsistencies, not just the ones you hate. 

I'd have no reason to dislike Romney if it wasn't for his spineless behavior so...

[Keystone Phil]

If you were really looking at this objectively, you'd look at all politicians' inconsistencies, not just the ones you hate. 

I'd have no reason to dislike Romney if it wasn't for his spineless behavior so...

Again; What has he done that is spineless?

These baseless talking points are fun and all, but they're not rooted in any kind of reality.

The guy ran to the left of Ted Kennedy on certain issues in 1994, dude. He denounces Reagan and then basically proclaims himself as the candidate of Reagan twelve years later?

Give it up already.

[Keystone Phil]

"I’ll be better than Ted for gay rights" Thursday Aug 25, 1994

Go for it.  Post the talking points quotes. 

It was a Mitt Romney talking point!

[Keystone Phil]

Another interesting tidbit from Huckabee's book:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/nov/21/mike-huckabee-book-2012

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Sorry, Huck, but I disagree with you here.

"I’ll be better than Ted for gay rights" Thursday Aug 25, 1994

Go for it.  Post the talking points quotes. 

It was a Mitt Romney talking point!

This is weird, I keep reading, but there's nothing there!  Phantom post?  I like your style.  Don't respond, just keep snipping when you're called out.

It's amazing how you think you're creatively dismissing what I'm saying. Instead, the rest of us see you avoiding the point.

Mitt Romney said he was more Pro "Gay rights" than Ted Kennedy (I assume this means in favor of gay marriage as well). Now either you're calling Romney a typical, pandering candidate or you're saying he flipped on the issue when he decided he wanted to be the face of conservatives. Which is it?

[Keystone Phil]

It's amazing how you think you're creatively dismissing what I'm saying. Instead, the rest of us see you avoiding the point.

Mitt Romney said he was more Pro "Gay rights" than Ted Kennedy (I assume this means in favor of gay marriage as well). Now either you're calling Romney a typical, pandering candidate or you're saying he flipped on the issue when he decided he wanted to be the face of conservatives. Which is it?

You just responded to my conversation with someone else and not the one I was having with you.  You don't counter any of my responses and then attack me for not responding to your agreement with someone else's actual arguments?  The rests of us know that I've already refuted this anyway, I've never avoided it.  You're grasping at straws here.

Anyway, you've proven my point, so all is done and the side of truth wins again.  You can't come up with anything he's actually "flip-flopped" on.  If you are inclined to carry on in ignorance of any of my previous posts, feel free.  But if you'd like to know how you're wrong, you can browse any thread about Mitt Romney over the past year and see how many times "your" "points" have been refuted.  I suggest you don't drag this on any further, because it's pretty widely known that I have refuted these things quite extensively and your unawareness of this is not making you look good.

Dude, I said it wasn't worth arguing with you if you think his flip flop on abortion isn't relevant.

You're ignoring everything I said because it doesn't help your argument.

Don't tell me how I'm not looking good by being unaware of what you've said in Romney's defense. We're all aware and it's pretty clear (especially from this conversation) that you're the second biggest Romney hack on the forum. You haven't refuted a damn thing so stop patting yourself on the back. You've dodged the quotes by Romney by playing dumb. "Hey, what does that have to do with what I said?"  "You're not countering what I'm saying!"  "Who are you responding to?"

The quotes by Romney ("Independent during Reagan Bush" and the Pro Gay rights comments) are known flip flops. You keep ignoring them.

[Keystone Phil]

I'm done legitimizing the attacks by reposting all my posts from the past year.

So all this was was, "I'm right so just admit it."

[Keystone Phil]

I'm done legitimizing the attacks by reposting all my posts from the past year.

So all this was was, "I'm right so just admit it."

More like, "you don't know what you're talking about and nothing you've brought up is at all relevant, new, or unrefuted."

LOL

"You don't know what you're talking about, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah! I'm right and you're wrong!"

So what was the point of this thread? Were you just here to say, "I already addressed that so oh well for you!"

[Keystone Phil]

Bush Tax Cuts Mitt Romney said in 2002 that he would not endorse Bush's tax cuts because he did not know enough about them.

LOL

That one is rich! Add in the fact that he's Mr. Financial Genius and you should be rolling on the ground in laughter.

[Keystone Phil]

Rick Santorum in 1994-"12 years is long enough for any congressmen" not an exact quote but close enough. Add to that his support of Specter in 2004 which you yourself criticized. There is also the residency issue. His failure to fight out of control spending while in the leadership.

I criticize him when he's wrong but the guy really hasn't flip flopped. The residency issue isn't a flip flop either. We can go into that if you want. 

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And I've stated my differences with him, too. He has definitely stood by what he believes more than Romney.

[Keystone Phil]

And I've stated my differences with him, too. He has definitely stood by what he believes more than Romney.

Uh...I'm pretty sure that's been proven false fairly thoroughly.  But I mean, feel free to ignore the factual arguments others have put forth in favor of convenient political speak.  Romney has simply not flip-flopped.  Period.  Done.  Factual statement complete.  There's nothing more to the pitiful accusations other than intellectually dishonest and irrational political manipulation.

Dude, you can't possibly been serious.

This whole thread you have simply gone on and on saying, "I am right. It has been proven. You lose." without actually proving a damn thing. You kept saying, "Well, I already addressed this awhile ago so oh well for you for not noticing."

If you actually want to prove something to be false "fairly thoroughly" then actually do it instead of saying you did it months ago and I should just take your word for it.

But listen, Fezzy..."I was an Independent during Reagan - Bush! I don't want to go back to Reagan - Bush! Mitt Romney - Reagan's Choice for America."

[Keystone Phil]

Go find it.  You're the only one who hasn't seen it yet and it's not my job to go digging and digging so you can look less ridiculous.

So again...

What was the point of this discussion? You said you wanted to have an intelligent conversation and then resort to this.

 

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LOL

Ok, pal.

 

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No one else is backing me up because no one else is paying attention. Everyone knows how ridiculous you are when it comes to Romney. Almost everyone agrees that the guy is a spineless joke. Maybe you've been absent for the past two years...

 

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So, again, all this was for was for you to say, "I'm right. You're wrong." Got you, pal.

 

I don;t recall Romney threatening to bolt the party just 6 years before his Presidential run or joining the Democratic ticket in the previos election.

And, like you said, we don't even know if that's true with McCain. While Romney definitely didn't threaten to switch, I'm not going to bow down and give him credit for it. What kind of standard is that?

He didn't have to threaten to switch anyway. He switched his ideology enough times to be acceptable to everyone! The guy is a total phoney.

[Keystone Phil]

You win.

I knew that the second you decided to ignore everything I said and started playing "I already did this. I don't need to prove anything. Find it on your own." And you said all of that after you claimed to want to have a fair, intelligent conversation about this.