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« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2008, 04:01:06 AM »

Is there any proof at all that Obama was born in Kenya? If not this I don't see why this is an issue.
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« Reply #76 on: December 04, 2008, 04:35:56 AM »

Hillary isn't even constitutionally eligible for SoS but seemingly no one cares.

Can you explain me why ?
What is the theory ?
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« Reply #77 on: December 04, 2008, 05:14:00 AM »

Hillary isn't even constitutionally eligible for SoS but seemingly no one cares.

Can you explain me why ?
What is the theory ?
Because the pay level for the SOS has increased by about $4,000 since Clinton was elected to the Senate. The Emoluments Clause in the constitution prevents members of Congress from being appointed a government office that has had a pay raise during their term in Congress. Congress will probably lower the SOS salary, to its previous level so Clinton can serve.
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« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2008, 07:11:11 AM »

Hillary isn't even constitutionally eligible for SoS but seemingly no one cares.

Can you explain me why ?
What is the theory ?
Because the pay level for the SOS has increased by about $4,000 since Clinton was elected to the Senate. The Emoluments Clause in the constitution prevents members of Congress from being appointed a government office that has had a pay raise during their term in Congress. Congress will probably lower the SOS salary, to its previous level so Clinton can serve.
However, that fix really is in line only with the spirit of the Constitution, but not the letter.

Wiki article that tells you all you need to know
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« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2008, 07:20:21 AM »

Oh, OK, I was aware of that problem, but, even if I'm not a fan of Hillary, let's drop this point...

When this article of the Constitution was written, there wasn't a similar pay system.
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« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2008, 10:05:50 AM »

Why is this six pages?
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« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2008, 03:57:40 PM »

Hillary isn't even constitutionally eligible for SoS but seemingly no one cares.

Can you explain me why ?
What is the theory ?
Because the pay level for the SOS has increased by about $4,000 since Clinton was elected to the Senate. The Emoluments Clause in the constitution prevents members of Congress from being appointed a government office that has had a pay raise during their term in Congress. Congress will probably lower the SOS salary, to its previous level so Clinton can serve.
However, that fix really is in line only with the spirit of the Constitution, but not the letter.

Wiki article that tells you all you need to know

I don't think the Saxbe fix is a valid fix for the problem; however, this is one part of the Constitution that I'd be willing to overlook.
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« Reply #82 on: December 05, 2008, 06:48:10 PM »

Oh, OK, I was aware of that problem, but, even if I'm not a fan of Hillary, let's drop this point...

When this article of the Constitution was written, there wasn't a similar pay system.

No, absolutely not. We will not "drop" the issue. If it's a constitutional issue it most certainly needs to be brought to the forefront, immediately. And I don't believe you can just "lower" the pay scale and be in line with the constitution.

however, this is one part of the Constitution that I'd be willing to overlook.

Seriously?
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« Reply #83 on: December 05, 2008, 07:04:33 PM »


Because stupidity generates more debate than well thought out opinions in which most posters share common ground.

That and the fact that threads filled with hot air tend to rise and swell like balloons.
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« Reply #84 on: December 05, 2008, 07:43:01 PM »

Oh, OK, I was aware of that problem, but, even if I'm not a fan of Hillary, let's drop this point...

When this article of the Constitution was written, there wasn't a similar pay system.

No, absolutely not. We will not "drop" the issue. If it's a constitutional issue it most certainly needs to be brought to the forefront, immediately. And I don't believe you can just "lower" the pay scale and be in line with the constitution.

Well, luckily, no one cares, and the rest of us will keep on living our lives. Also I don't remember you being outraged when they got rid of habeas corpus or spied on Americans or passed the PATRIOT Act or elected Bush President with the Supreme Court, but I guess it was all Republicans doing that, instead of a LIBRUL.
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« Reply #85 on: December 05, 2008, 08:01:12 PM »

Oh, OK, I was aware of that problem, but, even if I'm not a fan of Hillary, let's drop this point...

When this article of the Constitution was written, there wasn't a similar pay system.

No, absolutely not. We will not "drop" the issue. If it's a constitutional issue it most certainly needs to be brought to the forefront, immediately. And I don't believe you can just "lower" the pay scale and be in line with the constitution.

however, this is one part of the Constitution that I'd be willing to overlook.

Seriously?

Saxbe fixes have been common in administrations of both parties... It's honestly never been a big deal.
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« Reply #86 on: December 05, 2008, 08:31:31 PM »

Oh, OK, I was aware of that problem, but, even if I'm not a fan of Hillary, let's drop this point...

When this article of the Constitution was written, there wasn't a similar pay system.

No, absolutely not. We will not "drop" the issue. If it's a constitutional issue it most certainly needs to be brought to the forefront, immediately. And I don't believe you can just "lower" the pay scale and be in line with the constitution.

Well, luckily, no one cares, and the rest of us will keep on living our lives. Also I don't remember you being outraged when they got rid of habeas corpus or spied on Americans or passed the PATRIOT Act or elected Bush President with the Supreme Court, but I guess it was all Republicans doing that, instead of a LIBRUL.

Well moron, since you already know all my stances on those issues you are correct to slam me on that. But I'm not going to discuss this issue with you anymore. I'll spend my time typing a lengthy post for a more legitimate poster. On top of that, you weren't even here when those so called issues came to light.
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« Reply #87 on: December 05, 2008, 08:33:16 PM »

Oh, OK, I was aware of that problem, but, even if I'm not a fan of Hillary, let's drop this point...

When this article of the Constitution was written, there wasn't a similar pay system.

No, absolutely not. We will not "drop" the issue. If it's a constitutional issue it most certainly needs to be brought to the forefront, immediately. And I don't believe you can just "lower" the pay scale and be in line with the constitution.

however, this is one part of the Constitution that I'd be willing to overlook.

Seriously?

Saxbe fixes have been common in administrations of both parties... It's honestly never been a big deal.

Yeah, the Constitution only matters when the issue is important to you.
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