Florida GOP Primary: Mack vs. Bush?

[Keystone Phil]

I would like to see this guy Marco Rubio make a run.

I doubt he could win. His name recognition in Florida is quite low and he would never be able to match up to Bush or Mack.

I'm sure he means if Jeb and/or Mack don't run. Rubio wouldn't challenge his mentor (Jeb) and I think everyone knows that.

[catmando]

Oh boy, nepotism.

How so? Both Jeb and Connie have solid records of accomplishments to stand on.

[catmando]

Connie Mack IV is my congressman and is wildly popular in District 14 -- he wins with 60-65 percent of the vote. But there is no way he would challenge Jeb if former Gov. Bush decides to run. That would be political suicide.

It's possible though that he and Bush are playing chicken with one another to formally declare.   If Mack declares first in an attempt to force out Bush, he might be committed if Bush calls him out.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Mack also has a great last name in Florida politics, and although it's older, at least Mack hasn't been trashed by a sitting president with god-awful approval ratings with the the same last name....

I think it'd be 70/30 odds in favor of Bush, but I think Mack would have a solid shot at it.  It depends on whether Bush has been cultivating the connections he needs or not since he exited office...


*I have no idea about Florida politics, but I'm just a bit skeptical everything that assumes anything

Once Jeb announced he was interested, Connie couldn't get out a press release fast enough saying that he fully supports the former Governor and that he would make a great senator. Jeb is that popular here and Connie would never challenge him. No Republican would. Now it is a waiting game. Connie will let Jeb make the first move.

[catmando]

I would like to see this guy Marco Rubio make a run.

A real long shot ... poor name recognition. He also would have a hard time pulling the numbers a Republican needs in North Florida. Mel Martinez underperformed in North Florida (3-5% behind W) and almost lost to Betty Castor in 2004. But Bush was able to pull him across the finish line.

[Хahar 🤔]

Oh boy, nepotism.

Indeed. President's son vs. Senator's son.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Oh boy, nepotism.

Indeed. President's son vs. Senator's son.

Write in John Fogerty!

[Sam Spade]

Jeb is 55 now.

Any outside chance at a presidential run (should he succeed) in '12 (less likely) or '16 (slightly less less likely)?

Or will the Bush name continue to be poison in 2016?  I mean, George H.W. Bush got trounced in '92 but that didn't stop his son from rising to the top. 

HW got kicked out in 1992 pretty much because of the economy, not because of anything horrible he did.  As time passed during the 90s, I think opinion towards him warmed, which gave his son a chance.

Bush 43 is completely different.  I doubt feelings will warm to him afterwards one bit.

Frankly, I can't see another Bush being elected President until the next generation, at best.  As such, if Jeb wants public office, Senator from Florida is probably the best he can get.  And he'd have to be considered the favorite in a general election - his approval rating was sky-high when he left office, even as his brother's was not.

Also, if Jeb Bush runs, no other quasi-sane Republican will run in the primary.  Bank on it.

[catmando]

Oh boy, nepotism.

Indeed. President's son vs. Senator's son.

If nepotism is always assumed by family relation, then it "MUST" also apply to:
1. Jerry Brown
2. Al Gore
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Evan Bayh
5. Anyone named Kennedy
6. Anyone named Daley
7. Anyone named Rockefeller
8. Anyone named Jackson.

Correct?

[Reaganfan]

Jeb is 55 now.

Any outside chance at a presidential run (should he succeed) in '12 (less likely) or '16 (slightly less less likely)?

Or will the Bush name continue to be poison in 2016?  I mean, George H.W. Bush got trounced in '92 but that didn't stop his son from rising to the top. 

HW got kicked out in 1992 pretty much because of the economy, not because of anything horrible he did.  As time passed during the 90s, I think opinion towards him warmed, which gave his son a chance.

Bush 43 is completely different.  I doubt feelings will warm to him afterwards one bit.

Frankly, I can't see another Bush being elected President until the next generation, at best.  As such, if Jeb wants public office, Senator from Florida is probably the best he can get.  And he'd have to be considered the favorite in a general election - his approval rating was sky-high when he left office, even as his brother's was not.

Also, if Jeb Bush runs, no other quasi-sane Republican will run in the primary.  Bank on it.

Well, my money is that if Jeb Bush made a run in 2016 (let's assume President Obama were re-elected), than not only would likely odds favor a Republican victory that year, but Bush would have all conservative support, most of the primary locked up, fantastic funds, the popular record as a two-term Governor and Senator from a large swing state....it could happen.

Never say never.

[Lunar]

Oh boy, nepotism.

Indeed. President's son vs. Senator's son.

If nepotism is always assumed by family relation, then it "MUST" also apply to:
1. Jerry Brown
2. Al Gore
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Evan Bayh
5. Anyone named Kennedy
6. Anyone named Daley
7. Anyone named Rockefeller
8. Anyone named Jackson.

Correct?

9. Casey
10. UDALL

[Psychic Octopus]

Jeb Bush will never be president. He'll likely spend a good 3 or 4 terms in the senate, maybe become Majority Leader. Jeb Bush's popularity with hispanics could help GOP grassroots.

George P. Bush will be president, I believe though.