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« on: December 04, 2008, 09:11:25 PM »

I know that isn't exactly comparing apples to apples, but does anyone happen to know how many counties in the U.S. voted for Herbert Hoover in 1932 and Barack Obama in 2008. I know the county I live in went to Hoover in 1932 and to Obama this time so I was just wondering how many other traditionally, die-hard republican counties are now democratic.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 09:47:20 PM »
« Edited: December 04, 2008, 09:54:36 PM by You Will Know My Name »

Here are some:

Riverside County, CA
Larimer County, CO
New Castle County, DE
Marshall County, IA
Polk County, IA
Story County, IA
Warren County, IA
Delaware County, IN
Porter County, IN
Douglas County, KS
Lake County, MN
Lancaster County, NE
San Miguel County, NM
Valencia County, NM (Includes modern Cibola County)
Benton County, OR
McDowell County, WV
Rock County, WI

Plus 12 counties in northern Illinois, at least 9 in Michigan, 7 in Ohio, at least 8 in Pennsylvania, 11 in New Jersey, 23 in New York, and essentially all of New England. By my count, that is roughly 138 counties.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 10:08:09 PM »

Most of New England went to Hoover and the Northeast in general.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 12:50:15 AM »

I know that isn't exactly comparing apples to apples, but does anyone happen to know how many counties in the U.S. voted for Herbert Hoover in 1932 and Barack Obama in 2008. I know the county I live in went to Hoover in 1932 and to Obama this time so I was just wondering how many other traditionally, die-hard republican counties are now democratic.

I think the electorate has shifted in such a dramatic way between these two elections that you're not even comparing apples to oranges.  It's more like you're comparing apples to orangutans.

Back in '32 Republicans still dominated the Northeast and Democrats could count on double digit margins in the Deep South.  FDR put up >90% in four southern states and he was >80% in three more.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 10:21:30 AM »

It is kind of funny... according to Thomas Frank, the 2000-2008 maps look like a reverse mirror image of 1896. Are Ds the new Rs? Are Rs the new Ds? Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 02:35:35 PM »

It is kind of funny... according to Thomas Frank, the 2000-2008 maps look like a reverse mirror image of 1896. Are Ds the new Rs? Are Rs the new Ds? Tongue
Whoa. That blows my mind.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 02:39:28 PM »

It is kind of funny... according to Thomas Frank, the 2000-2008 maps look like a reverse mirror image of 1896. Are Ds the new Rs? Are Rs the new Ds? Tongue
Whoa. That blows my mind.

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2008, 05:34:58 PM »

It is kind of funny... according to Thomas Frank, the 2000-2008 maps look like a reverse mirror image of 1896. Are Ds the new Rs? Are Rs the new Ds? Tongue

     States that voted for the same party in both 1896 & 2008 are blue, ones that voted for opposite parties are red:

 

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2008, 06:28:45 PM »

It is kind of funny... according to Thomas Frank, the 2000-2008 maps look like a reverse mirror image of 1896. Are Ds the new Rs? Are Rs the new Ds? Tongue

     States that voted for the same party in both 1896 & 2008 are blue, ones that voted for opposite parties are red:

 

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Comparing 1896 to 2004 makes it even stronger. Now it gets distorted by comparing a Democratic victory to a Republican one. I think there were only 7 states that voted the same way in those two: WV, OH, ND, WA, KY, IA, IN
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2008, 07:33:32 PM »

It is kind of funny... according to Thomas Frank, the 2000-2008 maps look like a reverse mirror image of 1896. Are Ds the new Rs? Are Rs the new Ds? Tongue

     States that voted for the same party in both 1896 & 2008 are blue, ones that voted for opposite parties are red:

 

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Comparing 1896 to 2004 makes it even stronger. Now it gets distorted by comparing a Democratic victory to a Republican one. I think there were only 7 states that voted the same way in those two: WV, OH, ND, WA, KY, IA, IN

     1896 v. 2004

 

     It's funny how many of what few states voted the same were congregated in one area in both cases.
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2008, 11:15:17 PM »

Add:

Bucks, PA
Montgomery, PA
Chester, PA
Delaware, PA
Philadelphia, PA.... Not a typo.  This is the last time a Republican Pres. candidate EVER won the city.

I know there are others in PA.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 05:11:31 PM »

It is kind of funny... according to Thomas Frank, the 2000-2008 maps look like a reverse mirror image of 1896. Are Ds the new Rs? Are Rs the new Ds? Tongue

     States that voted for the same party in both 1896 & 2008 are blue, ones that voted for opposite parties are red:

 

Shocked

Comparing 1896 to 2004 makes it even stronger. Now it gets distorted by comparing a Democratic victory to a Republican one. I think there were only 7 states that voted the same way in those two: WV, OH, ND, WA, KY, IA, IN

     1896 v. 2004

 

     It's funny how many of what few states voted the same were congregated in one area in both cases.


Interesting analysis. I do have to say that the only reason Nebraska went democrat is because William Jennings Bryan considered that his home state at the time. Otherwise, Nebraska was every bit as republican in those times as it is now.

It is amusing to see how much some states have changed since then. It seems amusing to think that UT, ID, and MS would be strongly democratic and VT would be the most republican.

Of course, back in the day, some republicans were very liberal (i.e., George Norris of NE is a perfect example) and some democrats were very conservative (i.e., southern dixiecrats).
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 09:43:59 PM »

Add:

Bucks, PA
Montgomery, PA
Chester, PA
Delaware, PA
Philadelphia, PA.... Not a typo.  This is the last time a Republican Pres. candidate EVER won the city.

I know there are others in PA.

Well, there were enough in Pennsylvania that I didn't feel the need to type them all out. Nevertheless, as you named some of them, here are the other three:

Carbon County, PA
Centre County, PA
Dauphin County, PA
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2017, 01:45:06 PM »

Any other county's that voted Hoover-obama?
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