Kerry: Saddam deserves special place in Hell

[A18]

He said he would have authorized the war, even now that he knows there are WMDs and that Bush is a liar or whatever who wanted oil.

If you think Bush abused the power, why would you vote to give it to him again? It makes no sense whatsoever.

[elcorazon]

Like I said, I believe it was a GAFFE.  I think he meant that he felt he voted properly, despite what eventually transpired.  Nevertheless, you can't put the cat back into the bag.

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As far as voting to allow war, again there is a vast difference between that up or down vote and actually making the final decision to start a war.

Dude, go back and read the resolution Kerry voted for:

http://www.yourcongress.com/ViewArticle.asp?article_id=2686

The resolution stated that Iraq was in violation of the cease-fire from Gulf War I and authorized Bush to  "enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq."  The resolution deemed enforcement of all relevant UN resolutions to be in the security interest of the US AND deemed the conflict with Iraq as being part of the war on terror.

Kerry can be critical of how Bush conducted the war and occupation, but Kerry does NOT have a legitimate right to complain about the decision to remove Saddam since his removal was also included in the resolution Kerry voted for:

"Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime; "

[elcorazon]

I maintain that if you TRULY believe voting for the resolution = pro-Bush on Iraq in all respects, then you don't think the role of the President is noteworthy.  The truth is the Congress can only vote yes or no and sometimes one votes yes on a resolution that one doesn't fully endorse, because they support it for the most part.  Giving Bush the ability to wage war does not equal agreeing with his methods.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

You're really pulling strings with this one jmfcst.  99% of people aren't going to interpret this like you bible-heads do.  

It ws a fancy way to say Saddam was an evil man.  And Kerry didn't say anything about Jesus, WTF are you talking about?  

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

I certainly hope you don't intend to vote for Bush if you oppose candidates who "preach hatred".

Are you accusing Bush of preaching hatred?  

Please explain.

ur kidding.....um.....does "evil-doers" ring any bells?  

[A18]

I'm a "Bible head" and I'm not taking it the way jmfcst is either.

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ur kidding.....um.....does "evil-doers" ring any bells?  

How is THAT hatred?  If someone does an evil deed, then aren't they an evil-doer?  If I lie, doesn't that make me a liar?

[A18]

They always try that. It's like saying Christians hate homosexuals because they're anti-homosexuality.

Anyway, I wouldn't count on Hussein becoming a born again Christian.

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I maintain that if you TRULY believe voting for the resolution = pro-Bush on Iraq in all respects, then you don't think the role of the President is noteworthy.  The truth is the Congress can only vote yes or no and sometimes one votes yes on a resolution that one doesn't fully endorse, because they support it for the most part.  Giving Bush the ability to wage war does not equal agreeing with his methods.

Isn't it true that this resolution was basically a declaration of war on Iraq if Saddam didn't abide by all relevant UN Security Council resolutions?

And since Saddam did NOT comply, how on earth can Kerry say that it was wrong to go to war when Kerry himself is the one that voted for the ultimatum?

If Kerry wasn't serious about going to war with Iraq, then he shouldn't have thrown down the gantlet.

Like Bush says, we now live in a world where our actions must match our worlds.

If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.

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Anyway, I wouldn't count on Hussein becoming a born again Christian.

He probably won't, be that doesn't mean we shoudln't show him compassion now that we have him under our control.

[elcorazon]

I'm not saying he WOULDN'T have gone to war, but that he would have proceeded more cautiously, allowed more inspections and either ended up not at war or with a more unified stronger coalition.

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I'm not saying he WOULDN'T have gone to war, but that he would have proceeded more cautiously, allowed more inspections and either ended up not at war or with a more unified stronger coalition.

But, KERRY is saying that he wouldn't have gone to war.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Anyway, I wouldn't count on Hussein becoming a born again Christian.

He probably won't, be that doesn't mean we shoudln't show him compassion now that we have him under our control.

Compassion?!  I'd shoot the er.  

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

ur kidding.....um.....does "evil-doers" ring any bells?  

How is THAT hatred?  If someone does an evil deed, then aren't they an evil-doer?  If I lie, doesn't that make me a liar?

You don't call someone who you just think made a minor slip-up evil.  That the one aspect of Bush I like, he hates the Islamic extremists as much as I do.  

[A18]

I thought you'd set him back on the throne.

[Tory]

"Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who deserves his own special place in hell..."

It appears that in order to look tough, Kerry (who claims to be a Christian) is assigning people their own special places in Hell.

First, who is Kerry to condemn Saddam before the last chapter of Saddam's life is written?

Second, what is to prove by Saddam ending up in Hell?  Did Christ come to earth to prove God's ability to send people to Hell?  Or did Christ come to earth to prove how gracious and forgiving God was IF people will simply repent and turn to him?

Does Kerry really think his arrogant and hateful rhetoric will gain him votes?

You deserve a special place in hell, so does Kerry, so does Saddam, so does Bush, so does Pope John Paul II, and so do I.

We all deserve to go to hell. That's actually the point. However bad we are, and we are all sinners, Christ still loves and is willing to forgive us.

[A18]

I agree 100%. I'm just saying, you can be 99.99999% sure that he's not converting.

[Tory]

I agree 100%. I'm just saying, you can be 99.99999% sure that he's not converting.

It's safe to assume Saddam is going to hell. I'm with Kerry on this one.

[A18]

Perhaps it was an attempt to reach out to swing voters?...

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

"Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who deserves his own special place in hell..."

It appears that in order to look tough, Kerry (who claims to be a Christian) is assigning people their own special places in Hell.

First, who is Kerry to condemn Saddam before the last chapter of Saddam's life is written?

Second, what is to prove by Saddam ending up in Hell?  Did Christ come to earth to prove God's ability to send people to Hell?  Or did Christ come to earth to prove how gracious and forgiving God was IF people will simply repent and turn to him?

Does Kerry really think his arrogant and hateful rhetoric will gain him votes?

You deserve a special place in hell, so does Kerry, so does Saddam, so does Bush, so does Pope John Paul II, and so do I.

We all deserve to go to hell. That's actually the point. However bad we are, and we are all sinners, Christ still loves and is willing to forgive us.

So....we can't have gay marriage, yet we can forgive mass murderers.....  

wonderful.

[A18]

We can forgive mass murderers if they stop being mass murderers, and we can forgive gays if they quit the lifestyle.

[elcorazon]

but god forbid we abolish the death penalty.

[John Dibble]

but god forbid we abolish the death penalty.

Well, maybe there is something to this whole god thing after all.

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but god forbid we abolish the death penalty.

Please tell us what the death penality has to do with eternally judging someone.