If the Federal Government had respected states rights....

[LanceMcSteel]

Would the Conservative real murrican South still be denying African Americans the right to vote?

[Josh/Devilman88]

Would the Conservative real murrican South still be denying African Americans the right to vote?

No

[LanceMcSteel]

''Segregation Now, Segregation Forever''- Real American George Wallace

Southerners seemed to like him, why would they voluntarily end segregation without Federal interference?

[LanceMcSteel]

Disgusting Liberal Judicial Activism in Brown v Board of education.

"This unwarranted exercise of power by the Court, contrary to the Constitution, is creating chaos and confusion in the States principally affected. It is destroying the amicable relations between the white and Negro races that have been created through 90 years of patient effort by the good people of both races. It has planted hatred and suspicion where there has been heretofore friendship and understanding."

[Neinrein]

are you just trying to stir up trouble. And while we're at it, what southern pronounces the word American "murrican"...Most southerners don't pronounce r's or g's. A southerner would say it, "A meh, short r, ih, cehn"

[Josh/Devilman88]

hmm I say A-mar-rein-can

[LanceMcSteel]

are you just trying to stir up trouble. And while we're at it, what southern pronounces the word American "murrican"...Most southerners don't pronounce r's or g's. A southerner would say it, "A meh, short r, ih, cehn"

It is a valid question my friend. As Fezzy Festoon admitted, the South even in the 21st century would still be a world pariah apartheid state. Thus, those who call the South backwards and reactionary are entirely correct in their accusations.

[Neinrein]

are you just trying to stir up trouble. And while we're at it, what southern pronounces the word American "murrican"...Most southerners don't pronounce r's or g's. A southerner would say it, "A meh, short r, ih, cehn"

It is a valid question my friend. As Fezzy Festoon admitted, the South even in the 21st century would still be a world pariah apartheid state. Thus, those who call the South backwards and reactionary are entirely correct in their accusations.

You are operating off of incorrect history, but fortunately, I can correct you. Slavery was already collapsing in the 1850s because it was an investment intensive enterprise, and because people really aren't a tangible asset, as far as a bank is concerned, because people expire. Biggest mistake South made in the war, besides not moving on Washington in 1861, and troop movements at Gettysburg, was not offering freedom for service to draw up troops in 1862. But slavery was going to collapse, and the only reason Jim Crow happened is because of the corruption of Reconstruction Republican governments, which were elected on the backs of blacks but which did nothing to help them, and so of course, when Reconstruction ended, the white public blamed blacks for the excesses of Reconstruction authorities

[LanceMcSteel]

are you just trying to stir up trouble. And while we're at it, what southern pronounces the word American "murrican"...Most southerners don't pronounce r's or g's. A southerner would say it, "A meh, short r, ih, cehn"

It is a valid question my friend. As Fezzy Festoon admitted, the South even in the 21st century would still be a world pariah apartheid state. Thus, those who call the South backwards and reactionary are entirely correct in their accusations.

You are operating off of incorrect history, but fortunately, I can correct you. Slavery was already collapsing in the 1850s because it was an investment intensive enterprise, and because people really aren't a tangible asset, as far as a bank is concerned, because people expire. Biggest mistake South made in the war, besides not moving on Washington in 1861, and troop movements at Gettysburg, was not offering freedom for service to draw up troops in 1862. But slavery was going to collapse, and the only reason Jim Crow happened is because of the corruption of Reconstruction Republican governments, which were elected on the backs of blacks but which did nothing to help them, and so of course, when Reconstruction ended, the white public blamed blacks for the excesses of Reconstruction authorities

Your arguments are beating around the bush and not addressing the main points of Southern bigotry. Regardless of the profitability of slavery, the South still hated blacks enough to leave America and kill 500,000 US troops in the greatest act of treason in America's history (yet claim to be the most patriotic, go figure).

Regardless of the origins of Jim Crow, the South was still racist and biggoted enough to lynch, beat to death, intimidate and imprison African Americans to keep them out of the voting process in order to pass Jim Crow laws. Yea its god's country all right.
lol

[Eraserhead]

McSteel is providing his humble analysis of southern culture.

[Neinrein]

McSteel is providing his humble analysis of southern culture.

That's the one thing I've noticed. Without question, the defenders of the South have behaved in a far more gentlemanly manner than the detractors of it. The manner in which a person chooses to present their argument on a position says something about the merit of that position

[Scam of God]

The manner in which a person chooses to present their argument on a position says something about the merit of that position

Style-over-substance fallacy. You can stick your Sweet-Home-Alabama-Colonel-Sanders-Southern-Comfort-down-home-charmy manners straight up your ass.

[Neinrein]

The manner in which a person chooses to present their argument on a position says something about the merit of that position

Style-over-substance fallacy. You can stick your Sweet-Home-Alabama-Colonel-Sanders-Southern-Comfort-down-home-charmy manners straight up your ass.

I see you've taken Formal Logic 101. Never mind the fact that you are trying to attack my credibility by insulting me, and I have yet to insult anyone except for maybe Governor Fordice, and use appeals to prejudice in every argument you use, and never mind the fact that when I corrected an error, rather than accept it, you went back, changed the error, and then tried to accuse me of making a mistake. There's no question who has more honor in this one.

Having said this, I gladly welcome you to our town. We've got Beau Rivage, the Grand, the IP, the Hard Rock and Jimmy Buffett is building a casino now. Never mind Isle of Capri, Treasure Bay, the Atlantic City of the South, wouldn't mind a boardwalk on the gulf rather than the tacky manmade beach (largest in the world). I miss the charm of the old strip, but we get top name entertainment in town, often times better than the haughty city on the Mississippi 60 miles to west. So bring friends, family, etc, and have a wonderful time in what is now the Playground of the South, what is becoming the Playground of America, and what was for a century, the playground for two cities that are 60 miles in either direction for us. Katrina knocked us for a loop, but we came back from Camille and we're roarin' back from this one

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

It is a valid question my friend. As Fezzy Festoon admitted, the South even in the 21st century would still be a world pariah apartheid state. Thus, those who call the South backwards and reactionary are entirely correct in their accusations.

You are operating off of incorrect history, but fortunately, I can correct you. Slavery was already collapsing in the 1850s because it was an investment intensive enterprise, and because people really aren't a tangible asset, as far as a bank is concerned, because people expire.

I don't know where you are getting your economic "facts"  but they are wrong.  There was an effort in the early 1850's to diversify the South's economy away from its dependence on plantation slavery and manufactured goods imported from the North or Europe.  It largely failed because plantation slavery was the most profitable place to sink investment capital in the South in that decade.

Slavery was morally bankrupt, but financially it was profitable, provided you weren't a slave of course.

[Matt Damon™]

They'd probably still have open slavery in louisiana, alabama, missisipi, south carolina and georgia.

[The Mikado]

How is deciding to (finally) enforce the Fourteenth Amendment that had been on the books for a century by that point a matter of violating state's rights?  The Constitution's Supremacy Clause states that the Constitution is higher than state laws or state constitutions.  It's just a matter that in Brown Supreme Court finally woke up to what "equal protection" actually meant.

[WillK]

It is a valid question my friend. As Fezzy Festoon admitted, the South even in the 21st century would still be a world pariah apartheid state. Thus, those who call the South backwards and reactionary are entirely correct in their accusations.

You are operating off of incorrect history, but fortunately, I can correct you. Slavery was already collapsing in the 1850s because it was an investment intensive enterprise, and because people really aren't a tangible asset, as far as a bank is concerned, because people expire.

I don't know where you are getting your economic "facts"  but they are wrong. 

I agree.  Most of what he (Neinrein) wrote doesnt stand up to historic scrutiny.