Happy Chanukah!

[paul718]

Happy Chanukah

Enjoy those eight crazy nights!

Edit:  By the way, the priest offered a prayer to our Jewish brothers and sisters as they begin their celebration of Chanukah today at mass.  You aren't forgotten this time of year!

[paul718]

Edit:  By the way, the priest offered a prayer to our Jewish brothers and sisters as they begin their celebration of Chanukah today at mass.  You aren't forgotten this time of year!

I never understood how/why you would pray for people that you think are going to burn for eternity, but I guess this isn't the right venue for that

Is that what the Catholic Church says?  I don't even know. Regardless, it's not what I believe.

[paul718]

Happy Hanukkah, my friends.

Edit:  By the way, the priest offered a prayer to our Jewish brothers and sisters as they begin their celebration of Chanukah today at mass.  You aren't forgotten this time of year!

I never understood how/why you would pray for people that you think are going to burn for eternity, but I guess this isn't the right venue for that

Is that what the Catholic Church says?  I don't even know.

No, we don't. Just more ignorance on the part of the Catholic haters.

 I was gonna say that didn't sound right.

[paul718]

Matthew 25:41 (Jesus speaking to people at final judgment), ...Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

Revelation 14:11, And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night...

Revelation 20:12, 15, And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life...And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

None of those passages say "Jews will go to Hell." 

And Phil's right.  Catholics don't interpret the Bible the same way Protestants do. 

[paul718]

Christmas could kick Chanukah's ass any day of the week!

I remember that when I was a kid, I got a new present every day while Chanukah lasted (ie. 8 presents).  Beat that, Christ boy.

Yeah but you lose to the half-Jewish, half-Italian kids who grew up across the street from me.  They got Chanukah presents AND Christmas presents. 

[paul718]

Matthew 25:41 (Jesus speaking to people at final judgment), ...Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

Revelation 14:11, And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night...

Revelation 20:12, 15, And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life...And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

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How do you infer that?  There's nothing there that says anything about accepting Jesus.  Is there further context to suggest that?  It sounds to me like you're making an assumption, rather than an inference. 

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Who was Jesus addressing when he spoke of "ye cursed"? 

Smoke from whose torment?

What is "the book of life" and who is supposed to be written in it? 

[paul718]

kind of annoying to answer my question with three separate questions

 

You'll be okay. 

You said you didn't see much wiggle-room.  I was showing where I thought the wiggle-room was.  If you want me tell you how the Catholic Church interprets Biblical passages, I'm not gonna do it because I don't know how. 

[paul718]

so you don't know what you believe?

We're not talking about what I believe.  We're talking about what the Catholic Church teaches.  I don't believe everything the Catholic Church tells me to believe.  Regarding Jews burning in hell, I don't think the Catholic Church teaches that.  I went to Catholic school for 14 years and don't remember that ever being taught.  Regardless, I believe that a good person, no matter what religion they practice, will go to Heaven.

[paul718]

Regardless, I believe that a good person, no matter what religion they practice, will go to Heaven.

it is pretty difficult to argue that not to be in conflict with scripture, but to each his own

I disagree because I've never seen where it says that in the Bible.  But you're right, to each his own.

[paul718]

Please try to keep in mind that milions upon millions of Christians reject fundamentalism and do not define themselves or their faith on the basis of who are the "saints" and who are the "aints".

Thank youuu!