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Husker
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« on: December 26, 2008, 09:57:38 AM »
« edited: December 26, 2008, 10:24:27 AM by Husker »

Dukakis did somewhat better than normal in states like IA, SD, KS, NE, ND because of the terrible drought that summer and because of the farm crisis. Thus, a republican trend in these areas might be skewed a bit. Nevertheless, I look forward to seeing results from the entire U.S.

Any chance you could do this for 1976? :-)
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Husker
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2008, 09:16:46 AM »

I wonder if anyone has a good explanation for the swing around NE Iowa/SE Minnesota (Rochester and surroundings) -- I also wonder whether it extends into Wisconsin.

I'm not totally sure, but I seem to recall Dukakis not doing as well in SE MN, and NE IA as the other regions of both states.

Maybe the drought didn't extend as far, or average farm size wasn't as optimal as in some regions of both states?

No, the drought was bad there too. The swing looks stronger there primarily because Bush Sr. did a little better in that part of IA and MN and because Obama did much better than Dukakis (which is stating the obvious). It's also possible that there were less foreclosures on farms in that area or maybe the democratic party just didn't have as strong of a presence there.
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Husker
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2008, 09:34:33 AM »

1988 is not a very good year to compare anything with. Sorry.

As there's a good chance that 2008 won't be either, maybe they fit Grin

This may well be the case on both counts.

However this does demonstrate some longer term structural trends throughout the West....

Shift of suburban West Coast regions to the Democratic Party in Seattle, Portland, SF, and metro LA. Also, shifts around the urban centers of the SouthWest in CO, NV and NM, are likely to last. We'll see how Phoenix trends over the next few cycles, but obviously '08 was an anomoly.

Trends against the Dems in some of the natural resource counties of OR, WA, and CA shows, as well as the ranching and mining areas of the Mountain West. The jury is still out on some of the more urban areas in MT, and I think the Eastern Plains trend towards the Dems is likely temporary.... the map would look even redder if it wasn't '88, when Dukakis did exceptionally well in this region for reasons previously mentioned.

I think this map does have some validity, but it is important to point out trends that are real, versus trends that are more transitory.



Actually I think we will see the western Corn Belt (eastern Plains) become more competitive in upcoming elections. I attribute some of the democratic problems there to the lack of attention the democratic party has shown in recent decades. Actually the swing toward dems in this region was somewhat remarkable given that the economy isn't all that bad in this area and given that labor unions are a non-factor (unlike eastern IA, IL, WI, MN, and MI). I know many people who voted democrat for their first time this election cycle and as long as the republican party stays somewhat far to the right, they will look elsewhere. Yes republicans have dominated this region for many, many years but it historically it was a blend of moderate and conservative republicans. With the continued push to the right by the GOP, many moderates in this area finally have had enough and are looking at other options.
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Husker
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 09:54:14 PM »

Any chance we could see the complete U.S. map Alcon? Smiley
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