The World 2050

[frihetsivrare]

There will be a major push to globalise everything even more.  It will fail in about 2030.  A political version of NAFTA is established in 2010.  The North American Union collapses in 2025.  The EU follows suit in 2031.

The United States will break apart; they will become Hawaii, Cascadia, California, Montaña, Great Plains, Texas, Chippewa, North Atlantic and South Atlantic.  British Columbia joins Cascadia; New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island join North Atlantic.  Alaska joins Canada.  All of these nations are confederations, where local councils and the individual are of more importance than the national governments.  Cascadia adopts the Swiss model, with referendums instead of national legislature creating binding national laws.  The people of Mexico finally overthrow the government; another confederation is established.

Spanish becomes equal with English in California and Montaña.  French becomes equal with English in North Atlantic.  Many Quebecers immigrate to what is now New York, Maine, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.

The standard of living will significantly decline until 2035; it then stagnates and slowly increases after that.


Korea is reunited under a representative democratic form of government, like the South.  Major food shortages cause the populations of China, India, Korea and Japan to decline by 40% by 2050.  The CCP is overthrown in China and the country breaks up.  The east is set up like the European Union, with different nations with one currency and border control zone.  The west goes to traditional way of life.

[aaaa2222]

I honestly don't think Japan with have a problem with food for a while, though births might go down. They're fairly rich for a country of their population.

[Josh/Devilman88]

United States:

By the year 2020, the polar ice caps melted very fast causing sea levels to rise. All coastal cities and most of FL were wiped out. This caused banned on fossil fuel and anything that gives off gases that could harm the Ozone layer.

The ban cause the car companies to go out of business which causes MI population to fall very fast to the same levels as ND. Ford the one and only car company not to go out of business made a new car that runs off of solar power.

Wall street had to find a new location, that new local was Atlanta, GA. Atlanta by 2050 became the most populated city in the United States.  Phoenix, AZ came in a close 2nd followed by Dallas, TX; Charlotte, NC; Chicago, IL; Philadelphia, PA; Denver, CO; Boise, ID; Las Vegas, NV; Kansas City, MO. (2050 top 10 cities)

In the floods of 2020 Washington DC was flooded due to the Potomac River levels rising. Congress voted to move the Capital to Philadelphia, PA.

By 2050 the most Americans lived to 125 years old.

By 2050 the most top 10 populated States are: (in order); TX, GA, NC, AZ, NV, PA, IL, ID, CA, SC.  
CA lost alot of it population in the floods of 2020, most of the people on the coast moved to ID, NV and AZ.  Most of the people living in NYC moved to GA, NC and PA. Most of the people living in FL moved to GA, NC and SC.

The first city on the moon was made in 2025, but that only lasted for 20 years, they stop putting cities on the moon because in 2042 one of the bubbles around one of the cities broke and killed 2 million people.

World:

Russia went to war with China over natural Gas lines. Of course China and Russia nuked each other and both counties government fell and by 2050 they are no greater then a third world county. The UK and Australia took Russia and China place in the world power list behind the United States.

Mexico government fell in 2019, millions of Mexicans move to the United States. Today, 2050 Mexico is a county of the past. Now the place where Mexico was are 19 different small counties mostly owned by drug lords.

By 2035 the first cities were built on Antarctica coastal areas. (Owned by the US and UK)

Cities that have no populations are:

NYC, LA, Moscow, Hong Kong, Mexico City, St. Louis, New Orleans, All cities outside of the the FL pan handle, Seattle. All cities that were on the coast before 2020.

[aaaa2222]

That seems more like a catastrophic global warming scenario than anything. I somehow think that won't happen.
Anywho, you said Antarctica melted, but the USA still has cities there?

[Josh/Devilman88]

That seems more like a catastrophic global warming scenario than anything. I somehow think that won't happen.
Anywho, you said Antarctica melted, but the USA still has cities there?

There is land under all that ice.

[aaaa2222]

That is true, but will it not be swamped by the rise in sea levels you predicted?

[Hash]

Hopefully Cape Verde takes over the world.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Much of Eastern Europe collapses. Several countries grab up the land (Germany, Poland).

No.  I could see the European Union collapsing or the Eurozone becoming a political entity and the rest of the EU becoming a free-trade zone, but what you say will not happen.  Hopefully we will be around in 2050 to discuss this.  In Germany they actually say that in a few years there will be more Turkish speakers than German speakers and you think they will actually conquer countries they have nothing in common with?

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You mean like how East Germany would attack West Germany?  Impoverished North Korea will collapse at some point and be absorbed by South Korea.  And why the hell would China who is quickly becoming ultra-capitalist care?

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Why would India do that?

[justfollowingtheelections]

The odds are that at least one of the following joins the US: Any of the central american states, any of the non-european caribbean islands, Guyana, Cape Verde, Phillippines. Most likely are guyana and cape verde with the Phillippines a bit behind and the rest behind those 3.

I'd rather we get our bases back as opposed to the entire country.  The stronger China gets (at least under the control of the CCP), the more likely that would happen.

The stronger China gets and the more economic influence they have in the region, the less likely it will become that the US will regain their power in East Asia.

[justfollowingtheelections]

These predictions are pretty ridiculous. Seriously America annexing Mexico and there being an Anglo-Latin culture? There are so many reasons why that would never happen...

I think that was wishful thinking but I have to agree with you.  Some of these theories make little to no sense.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I honestly don't think Japan with have a problem with food for a while, though births might go down. They're fairly rich for a country of their population.

And they import most of their food from abroad.

[justfollowingtheelections]

There will be a major push to globalise everything even more.  It will fail in about 2030.  A political version of NAFTA is established in 2010.  The North American Union collapses in 2025.  The EU follows suit in 2031.

The United States will break apart; they will become Hawaii, Cascadia, California, Montaña, Great Plains, Texas, Chippewa, North Atlantic and South Atlantic.  British Columbia joins Cascadia; New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island join North Atlantic.  Alaska joins Canada.  All of these nations are confederations, where local councils and the individual are of more importance than the national governments.  Cascadia adopts the Swiss model, with referendums instead of national legislature creating binding national laws.  The people of Mexico finally overthrow the government; another confederation is established.

Spanish becomes equal with English in California and Montaña.  French becomes equal with English in North Atlantic.  Many Quebecers immigrate to what is now New York, Maine, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.

The standard of living will significantly decline until 2035; it then stagnates and slowly increases after that.


Korea is reunited under a representative democratic form of government, like the South.  Major food shortages cause the populations of China, India, Korea and Japan to decline by 40% by 2050.  The CCP is overthrown in China and the country breaks up.  The east is set up like the European Union, with different nations with one currency and border control zone.  The west goes to traditional way of life.

This is a reasonable prediction, but as dysfunctional as these international unions will be, I think they will survive a little longer.  Also, there might be a decrease in population in the countries you mentioned but not by 40%.

[justfollowingtheelections]

United States:

By the year 2020, the polar ice caps melted very fast causing sea levels to rise. All coastal cities and most of FL were wiped out. This caused banned on fossil fuel and anything that gives off gases that could harm the Ozone layer.

The ban cause the car companies to go out of business which causes MI population to fall very fast to the same levels as ND. Ford the one and only car company not to go out of business made a new car that runs off of solar power.

Wall street had to find a new location, that new local was Atlanta, GA. Atlanta by 2050 became the most populated city in the United States.  Phoenix, AZ came in a close 2nd followed by Dallas, TX; Charlotte, NC; Chicago, IL; Philadelphia, PA; Denver, CO; Boise, ID; Las Vegas, NV; Kansas City, MO. (2050 top 10 cities)

In the floods of 2020 Washington DC was flooded due to the Potomac River levels rising. Congress voted to move the Capital to Philadelphia, PA.

By 2050 the most Americans lived to 125 years old.

By 2050 the most top 10 populated States are: (in order); TX, GA, NC, AZ, NV, PA, IL, ID, CA, SC.  
CA lost alot of it population in the floods of 2020, most of the people on the coast moved to ID, NV and AZ.  Most of the people living in NYC moved to GA, NC and PA. Most of the people living in FL moved to GA, NC and SC.

The first city on the moon was made in 2025, but that only lasted for 20 years, they stop putting cities on the moon because in 2042 one of the bubbles around one of the cities broke and killed 2 million people.

World:

Russia went to war with China over natural Gas lines. Of course China and Russia nuked each other and both counties government fell and by 2050 they are no greater then a third world county. The UK and Australia took Russia and China place in the world power list behind the United States.

Mexico government fell in 2019, millions of Mexicans move to the United States. Today, 2050 Mexico is a county of the past. Now the place where Mexico was are 19 different small counties mostly owned by drug lords.

By 2035 the first cities were built on Antarctica coastal areas. (Owned by the US and UK)

Cities that have no populations are:

NYC, LA, Moscow, Hong Kong, Mexico City, St. Louis, New Orleans, All cities outside of the the FL pan handle, Seattle. All cities that were on the coast before 2020.

Some of your predictions I can see happening, some others not so much.  I think space exploration will focus on using the natural resources of other planets rather than inhabiting them.

[Hash]

The odds are that at least one of the following joins the US: ... Cape Verde ...

Nooooooooooooo

[aaaa2222]

Much of Eastern Europe collapses. Several countries grab up the land (Germany, Poland).

No.  I could see the European Union collapsing or the Eurozone becoming a political entity and the rest of the EU becoming a free-trade zone, but what you say will not happen.  Hopefully we will be around in 2050 to discuss this.  In Germany they actually say that in a few years there will be more Turkish speakers than German speakers and you think they will actually conquer countries they have nothing in common with?

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You mean like how East Germany would attack West Germany?  Impoverished North Korea will collapse at some point and be absorbed by South Korea.  And why the hell would China who is quickly becoming ultra-capitalist care?

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Why would India do that?

You are surely correct on the Germany thing, the Muslim population is booming. But yes, they will accept new "states" into their country from the fragments erupting from the civil wars and political strife that erupts in Europe. Regardless of the ethnicity of the inhabitants, every country desires power.
If North Korea was to attack South Korea, China would surely take North Korea's side.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/11097/chinanorth_korea_relationship.html
They always have, and its a trend I can see continuing far into the future, especially if it is a means to grow their power and the power of their allies throughout the region, and to seize an ally from the USA, a competing superpower.
India desperately needs resources to sustain its booming population. Why not seize the militarily inferior, fertile lands to your East?

[CultureKing]

United States:

By the year 2020, the polar ice caps melted very fast causing sea levels to rise. All coastal cities and most of FL were wiped out. This caused banned on fossil fuel and anything that gives off gases that could harm the Ozone layer.

The ban cause the car companies to go out of business which causes MI population to fall very fast to the same levels as ND. Ford the one and only car company not to go out of business made a new car that runs off of solar power.

Wall street had to find a new location, that new local was Atlanta, GA. Atlanta by 2050 became the most populated city in the United States.  Phoenix, AZ came in a close 2nd followed by Dallas, TX; Charlotte, NC; Chicago, IL; Philadelphia, PA; Denver, CO; Boise, ID; Las Vegas, NV; Kansas City, MO. (2050 top 10 cities)

In the floods of 2020 Washington DC was flooded due to the Potomac River levels rising. Congress voted to move the Capital to Philadelphia, PA.

By 2050 the most Americans lived to 125 years old.

By 2050 the most top 10 populated States are: (in order); TX, GA, NC, AZ, NV, PA, IL, ID, CA, SC.  
CA lost alot of it population in the floods of 2020, most of the people on the coast moved to ID, NV and AZ.  Most of the people living in NYC moved to GA, NC and PA. Most of the people living in FL moved to GA, NC and SC.

The first city on the moon was made in 2025, but that only lasted for 20 years, they stop putting cities on the moon because in 2042 one of the bubbles around one of the cities broke and killed 2 million people.

World:

Russia went to war with China over natural Gas lines. Of course China and Russia nuked each other and both counties government fell and by 2050 they are no greater then a third world county. The UK and Australia took Russia and China place in the world power list behind the United States.

Mexico government fell in 2019, millions of Mexicans move to the United States. Today, 2050 Mexico is a county of the past. Now the place where Mexico was are 19 different small counties mostly owned by drug lords.

By 2035 the first cities were built on Antarctica coastal areas. (Owned by the US and UK)

Cities that have no populations are:

NYC, LA, Moscow, Hong Kong, Mexico City, St. Louis, New Orleans, All cities outside of the the FL pan handle, Seattle. All cities that were on the coast before 2020.

How high are you expecting the water levels to increase? Cities like Seattle, San Fran and Vancouver, BC are all pretty hilly with significant populations living at least 200 ft above sea level.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Even if temperatures on earth jumped 10˚F tomorrow, it would still take a minimum of 100 years to melt all of Greenland which would cause a 7 ft. rise in global sea level.

Antarctica would take centuries to melt.

On top of that, the world will likely be colder in 2020 than it is today, so there is that.

[aaaa2222]

^Where did you get those facts from?

[afleitch]

Scotland will be an independent nation with a GDP per head higher than that of it's southern neighbour. Shetland and Orkney become deep sea ports en route to the seasonal Arctic shipping lane. Scotland is also the worlds largest net water and renewable energy exporter.

[Matt Damon™]

These predictions are pretty ridiculous. Seriously America annexing Mexico and there being an Anglo-Latin culture? There are so many reasons why that would never happen...

1 IT's more like we end up inheriting it after the increasingly unstable central government blows up as a result of economic crises caused by PEMEX mismanaging the oil supplies and 3/4 of mexico flees here.
2 The US's mainstream culture is latinizing each year. We're well on that road already.

[Matt Damon™]

China and India are both paper tigers and jokes. Brazil is the potential big boy to watch since they've started getting their act together.

[specific_name]

Superpowers: Russia and United States
Big Regional Powers: EU (as a de facto federal entity backed by the US), China (in central Asia and Pacific) and India. A power in South America will emerge, likely Brazil.

Conflict between US and Russia:

Russia regains former power and expands upon it. Will extend hegemony and influence into Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia. Proxy wars will resume from where they left off.

The first fault line to develop will be between the federalized EU and the Russian controlled states of Eastern Europe. This will involve minor proxy warfare (20's) in the Balkans primarily.

The second front will open in the Middle East. US backed puppet regimes will come into conflict with Russian backed puppets. Iran will have undergone severe upheavals and become the primary epicenter of conflict (still proxy) between US and Russia.

Russia will come into conflict with China (which will be more powerful and centralized than it is now), the US will back China, using Japan and South Korea as a firing base. Russia will attempt to become a Pacific power and succeed in doing so by the 40's.


All of these conflicts will revolve around energy shortages and manipulation of resources.

The Middle East conflict will involve Russia's control of pipelines and other resources. This will be played out in the 20's along with the EU vs. Eastern Europe (Russian puppets) conflict.

The Pacific conflict involving China and Russia is rooted in the former's stronghold on world shipping which Russia must overcome in order to distribute its resources (largely untapped until its rise in the 20's). The US will attempt to preserve its own position in the Pacific by backing China and all the minor Pacific powers. The East Indies will come upper Japanese/American influence as a result. By 2050 Russia will be the chief trader in "old" resources. Meanwhile, the US and its allies will be forced to look elsewhere. Perhaps space or a new means of energy production.

Mid-Century will be a period of tension and apprehension. It will be clear that the US and EU will have to face Russia directly, as it will have failed to stop the nation's growth on all major fronts. The proxy wars of the first half of the century will give way to direct conflict as energy supplies dwindle. Russia will win the conflict, the EU and US will become regional powers that must do business with them in order to remain stable.

From this point onward a new power will emerge from the ashes and challenge the unitary superpower late century. India and a coalition of weaker entities will come together and slowly challenge the new order.

 edit: this topic ought to be in the 'what if' section.

[Rild]

world at 2050:

- industrial civilization will have long since disintegrated because of the effects of post-peak oil energy crises and climate change. Most people will live in small rural communities close to food sources, and the vast majority of modern amenities will be long gone

- there will be few, if any, large political entities (countries, states, provinces) left intact

- the population of the earth will probably be somewhere between 1 and 3 billion (though of course there will be no organization capable of counting the population by then), given a large scale die-off after modern, oil-based agriculture fails in the wake of social collapse and energy/oil product scarcity wrought by worsening energy crises

[aaaa2222]

^That's pretty dismal...
^^I honestly cannot see Russia, a country of 100 million, taking down China, the European Union, and the USA. Those three groups spend roughly 5x more than Russia on their military, and have 15-20x the population. It won't happen unless some Russian puppet states officially rejoin Russia and provide formal military support. Even then, it's iffy.

[Hash]

San Marino needs to annex Italy as fast as possible.