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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #375 on: May 21, 2010, 10:58:11 PM »

That would be excellent.

I was hoping you'd mention the French story, too. Smiley

It's a tougher project than I'd imagined, especially given the style I want it to be written in.
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« Reply #376 on: May 21, 2010, 11:05:27 PM »

That would be excellent.

I was hoping you'd mention the French story, too. Smiley

It's a tougher project than I'd imagined, especially given the style I want it to be written in.

Yes, that will take a great deal of time, thought, and effort.

Not to mention that it is especially hard to find documents not written from an American point of view.
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #377 on: May 23, 2010, 11:24:40 AM »

Yes, that will take a great deal of time, thought, and effort.

Not to mention that it is especially hard to find documents not written from an American point of view.

Indeed; because I'm writing it as a mockumentary, I need to alter the style of writing to be more formal, more historical.  It's tough.
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« Reply #378 on: May 23, 2010, 09:21:57 PM »

Any update coming soon?
(1000th post!)
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #379 on: May 27, 2010, 01:16:50 PM »


No idea; probably not for another month.
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« Reply #380 on: May 27, 2010, 01:25:16 PM »


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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #381 on: May 27, 2010, 01:28:11 PM »


Between school and debate, I just don't have any free time.
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« Reply #382 on: June 06, 2010, 01:58:46 PM »

In three weeks, there will be a new update.
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« Reply #383 on: June 06, 2010, 01:59:41 PM »


Cheesy
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #384 on: June 17, 2010, 08:28:44 PM »

One week from today Smiley
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« Reply #385 on: June 17, 2010, 08:34:04 PM »


Yay! Can't wait!
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« Reply #386 on: June 17, 2010, 09:23:02 PM »

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« Reply #387 on: June 17, 2010, 10:32:25 PM »

Then Kennedy would've died soon anyways with the amount of pills he was on. That's the reason his face swelled up so much while he was in office. I asked my psychiatrist about this and he agreed.
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #388 on: June 18, 2010, 12:59:38 PM »

This was view 30,000 Smiley
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« Reply #389 on: June 18, 2010, 09:20:58 PM »

Then Kennedy would've died soon anyways with the amount of pills he was on. That's the reason his face swelled up so much while he was in office. I asked my psychiatrist about this and he agreed.

actually his face swelled up because he used cortisone shots. He was actually far skinnier when he was younger, almost lethally. The cortisone helped save his political career and to some extent his life.
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« Reply #390 on: June 23, 2010, 11:55:55 PM »


The Second Term of Carroll Campbell

“As we enter the last four years of this century, I see an America that can handle any challenge, no matter how potent.  That, my friends, is the American spirit: the ability to conquer any foe, no matter who, or what, it may be.”  On that optimistic note, President Campbell enters the last four years of his Administration, facing approvals in the high 50’s, and, for the first time, a completely compliant Congress.

As his first act with the new Congress, Campbell propose the Welfare Reform Act of 1997.  The legislation, written by Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) and Congressman Mark Sanford (R-SC), would require anyone on welfare after six months to face periodic reviews of their situation, as well as setting an overall limit on the amount of time a person could spend on welfare, without extenuating circumstances such as disability.

From the beginning, the WRA faces severe opposition.  Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA) calls it, “An attempt to destroy America’s less fortunate, to leave them with no options besides a life of crime.”  Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) decries it as, “A shameless cave-in to corporate interests and all those who have no regard for America’s poor.”

However, the Senate bill does attract a large number of conservative Democratic supporters.  Senator Ernest Hollings (D-SC) calls it, “A positive step towards truly reforming a broken health care system.”  Al Gore (D-TN) says, “This may not be perfect, but we need to reform welfare, and this bill is a start.”

Senate liberals then begin a lengthy filibuster which is not broken until June 24, by a vote of 60-40, exactly the margin needed to break the filibuster.  Every Republican except John Chafee of Rhode Island votes for cloture, and 7 Democrats (Richard Shelby of Alabama, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, John Breaux and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Hollings, and Gore) break lines to vote in favor of it.  On July 27, by a vote of 57-43, the bill passes, and is sent to the House, though debate does not begin because of the August recess.

When the House reconvenes on September 2, debate begins – if it can be called debate.  The Rules Committee, now led by Republican Gerald B. H. Solomon of New York, moves debate along quickly, and the new Speaker, Newt Gingrich of Georgia, keeps Republicans in line.  On October 8, by a vote of 232-203, the bill passes, and on October 11, Campbell signs the reforms into law.  The next day, the New York Times front page bears the headline: “Campbell to welfare recipients: drop dead.”

On November 2, Soviet Premier Vitaly Fedorchuk dies after 10 years as Premier, at the age of 79.  He is replaced by Boris Yeltsin, the former Mayor of Moscow and Soviet Foreign Minister.  On November 19, Campbell travels to the Kremlin to meet with Yeltsin, and the two men promise a renewed era of cooperation between the Americans and the Soviets.

On January 7, international conservatism is dealt a blow as the British Labour Party, led by Tony Blair, manages to retake Parliament for the first time in twenty plus years.  Blair, at age 45, is the youngest Prime Minister since Lord Liverpool in 1812.  On January 17, Blair and Campbell meet, and Campbell, in a statement to the press, says that, “The special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom will continue, as strong as ever, with Mr. Blair at the helm.”

In his State of the Union on January 25, Campbell praises Congress for passing the WRA, and promises more legislation in the coming months.

On March 4, a bomb explodes outside the US Embassy in Sana‘a, the capital of Yemen, killing 19.  Responsibility for the attack is claimed by a terrorist organization known as al-Qaeda, and Campbell responds with a series of bombing campaigns that kills over 1,000 Yemeni and Omani civilians, although a small al-Qaeda hideout is reported as destroyed.  A report issued by the Department of Defense in October reports that the bombings were not as well targeted as they could have been, resulting in unnecessary civilian deaths.

On June 13, Campbell presents the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1998, which would reduce the number of “frivolous” securities lawsuits filed in federal courts, by making investors have facts in-hand that strongly suggest a deliberate fraud.  The legislation faces little opposition; it passes the Senate 89-7 on July 27, and the House 387-40 on September 10, being signed by the President on September 12.

The Congressional Elections

On elected day 1998, President Campbell holds an approval of 56%.  However, despite Campbell’s high approvals, the GOP suffers losses in both houses, but manage to retain them both.

Senate Results

Republicans: 51 (-3)
Democrats: 49 (+3)


House Results
Republicans: 220 (-16)
Democrats: 214 (+16)
Independents: 1 (-)
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« Reply #391 on: June 25, 2010, 09:22:28 AM »

Great update Ben! Cheesy I can't wait to see the rest of Campbell's second term and the 2000 election! I have several questions (and I'm sorry if you've already answered them in your TL and I just haven't picked them up Tongue).

1. How has Dan Quayle been as VEEP? Has he made similar gaffes as he did OTL? As of 1998, would Republicans be nervous about running him in 2000?
2. With the USSR still living on longer than OTL, is there a huger push from conservatives for anti-communist policy? How strong is anti-communist sentiment in America?
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #392 on: June 25, 2010, 10:15:51 AM »

1. How has Dan Quayle been as VEEP? Has he made similar gaffes as he did OTL? As of 1998, would Republicans be nervous about running him in 2000?

Quayle has been fairly low-profile as Vice President, and so he has not made many gaffes in his nearly 6 years in office.  Republicans have no qualms with him running for President, except those who feel he's too conservative.

2. With the USSR still living on longer than OTL, is there a huger push from conservatives for anti-communist policy? How strong is anti-communist sentiment in America?

Not a huge push, and Campbell's fairly moderate Presidency has left the strongly anti-Communist conservatives out in the cold.  Anti-Communist sentiment in general is weakening, since no President has made it a major theme.
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« Reply #393 on: June 25, 2010, 10:39:08 AM »

If Kennedy had lived (he was killed by the secret service for a letter he wrote asking them to kill his wife so that he could be with Marilyn Monroe) then the democrats would have likely had a better shot at 1968 and been voted out in 1972. By 1980 it would have been the democrats' turn to win again and Reagan would've never been president.
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« Reply #394 on: June 25, 2010, 01:55:17 PM »

Great update, Ben!

If Kennedy had lived (he was killed by the secret service for a letter he wrote asking them to kill his wife so that he could be with Marilyn Monroe) then the democrats would have likely had a better shot at 1968 and been voted out in 1972. By 1980 it would have been the democrats' turn to win again and Reagan would've never been president.

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« Reply #395 on: June 25, 2010, 02:37:24 PM »

Interesting update Ben, and glad to have this back on Track, I wonder how Carroll and Tony will get along...Keep it comming
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #396 on: July 09, 2010, 01:02:09 AM »

Update in the next 18 hours Smiley
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« Reply #397 on: July 09, 2010, 04:49:17 PM »
« Edited: July 09, 2010, 05:34:37 PM by Vosem »

In celebration of the upcoming update, a treat.

1984 Senate Elections (56-44 Republican majority):
•   Alabama: Howell Heflin (D) reelected
•   Alaska: Ted Stevens (R) reelected
•   Arkansas: David Pryor (D) reelected
•   Colorado: William Armstrong (R) reelected
•   Delaware: Joe Biden (D) reelected
•   Georgia: Sam Nunn (D) reelected
•   Idaho: James McClure (R) reelected
•   Illinois: Paul Simon (D) defeats Dave O’Neal (R)
•   Iowa: Tom Harkin (D) defeats Roger Jepsen (R)
•   Kansas: Nancy Landon Kassebaum (R) reelected
•   Kentucky: Mitch McConnell (R) defeats Walter Huddleston (D)
•   Louisiana: Bennett Johnston, Jr. (D) reelected
•   Maine: William Cohen (R) reelected
•   Massachusetts: John Kerry (D) defeats Edward Brooke (R)
•   Michigan: Robert Griffin (R) reelected
•   Minnesota: Rudy Boschwitz (R) reelected
•   Mississippi: Thad Cochran (R) reelected
•   Montana: Stan Stephens (R) reelected
•   Nebraska: Bob Kerrey (D) retiring-replaces Edward Zorinsky (D)
•   New Hampshire: Gordon Humphrey (R) reelected
•   New Jersey: Bill Bradley (D) reelected
•   New Mexico: Joe Skeen (R) reelected
•   North Carolina: Jesse Helms (R) reelected
•   Oklahoma: David Boren (D) retiring-replaces Ed Edmondson (D)
•   Oregon: Norma Paulus (R) reelected
•   Rhode Island: Claiborne Pell (D) reelected
•   South Carolina: Strom Thurmond (R) reelected
•   South Dakota: Bill Janklow (R) defeats Lars Herseth (D)
•   Tennessee: Al Gore (D) retiring-replaces Howard Baker (R)
•   Texas: Phil Gramm (R) defeats Barefoot Sanders (D)
•   Virginia: John Warner (R) reelected
•   West Virginia: Arch Moore, Jr. (R) reelected
•   Wyoming: Alan Simpson (R) reelected
Afterwards (56-44 Republican majority):
•   North Carolina: Jim Broyhill (R) retiring-replaces John Porter East (R)

1986 Senate Elections (52-48 Democratic majority):
•   Alabama: Richard Shelby (D) defeats Jeremiah Denton (R)
•   Alaska: Frank Murkowski (R) reelected
•   Arizona: John McCain (R) retiring-replaces Barry Goldwater (R)
•   Arkansas: Dale Bumpers (D) reelected
•   California: Tom Bradley (D) defeats Ed Davis (R)
•   Colorado: Tim Wirth (D) retiring-replaces Gary Hart (D)
•   Connecticut: Chris Dodd (D) reelected
•   Florida: Bob Graham (D) defeats Paula Hawkins (R)
•   Georgia: Wyche Fowler (D) defeats Mack Mattingly (R)
•   Hawaii: Daniel Inouye (D) reelected
•   Idaho: John Evans (D) defeats Steve Symms (R)
•   Illinois: Alan Dixon (D) reelected
•   Indiana: William Ruckelshaus (R) reelected
•   Iowa: Chuck Grassley (R) reelected
•   Kansas: Bob Dole (R) reelected
•   Kentucky: Wendell Ford (D) reelected
•   Louisiana: John Breaux (D) retiring-replaces Russell Long (D)
•   Maryland: Barbara Mikulski (D) reelected
•   Missouri: Kit Bond (R) defeats Joseph Teasdale (D)
•   Nevada: Harry Reid (D) defeats Chic Hecht (R)
•   New Hampshire: Warren Rudman (R) reelected
•   New York: Al d’Amato (R) reelected
•   North Carolina: Terry Sanford (D) defeats Jim Broyhill (R)
•   North Dakota: Kent Conrad (D) defeats Mark Andrews (R)
•   Ohio: John Glenn (D) reelected
•   Oklahoma: Don Nickles (R) reelected
•   Oregon: Bob Packwood (R) reelected
•   Pennsylvania: Arlen Specter (R) reelected
•   South Carolina: Ernest Hollings (D) reelected
•   South Dakota: Tom Daschle (D) defeats James Abdnor (R)
•   Utah: Jake Garn (R) reelected
•   Vermont: Patrick Leahy (D) reelected
•   Washington: Brock Adams (D) retiring-replaces Warren Magnuson (D)
•   Wisconsin: Bob Kasten (R) reelected
Afterwards (52-48 Democratic majority):
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« Reply #398 on: July 09, 2010, 06:11:16 PM »

1988 Senate Elections (54-46 Democratic majority):
•   Arizona: Terry Goddard (D) defeats Sam Steiger (R)
•   California: Pete Wilson (R) reelected
•   Connecticut: Joe Lieberman (D) defeats James Buckley (R)
•   Delaware: William Roth, Jr. (R) reelected
•   Florida: Buddy MacKay (D) retiring-replaces Lawton Chiles (D)
•   Hawaii: Cecil Heftel (D) reelected
•   Indiana: Dan Quayle (R) reelected
•   Maine: George Mitchell (D) reelected
•   Maryland: Paul Sarbanes (D) reelected
•   Massachusetts: Ted Kennedy (D) reelected
•   Michigan: Donald Riegle, Jr. (D) reelected
•   Minnesota: Walter Mondale (D) reelected
•   Mississippi: Trent Lott (R) retiring-replaces John Stennis (D)
•   Missouri: John Danforth (R) reelected
•   Montana: Conrad Burns (R) defeats Max Baucus (D)
•   Nebraska: Frank Morrison (D) reelected
•   Nevada: Richard Bryan (D) defeats Paul Laxalt (R)
•   New Jersey: Frank Lautenberg (D) reelected
•   New Mexico: Jeff Bingaman (D) reelected
•   New York: Robert Abrams (D) retiring-replaces Richard Ottinger (D)
•   North Dakota: Quentin Burdick (D) reelected
•   Ohio: Howard Metzenbaum (D) reelected
•   Pennsylvania: William Scranton III (R) reelected
•   Rhode Island: Lincoln Almond (R) reelected
•   Tennessee: Jim Sasser (D) reelected
•   Texas: Lloyd Bentsen (D) reelected
•   Utah: Orrin Hatch (R) reelected
•   Vermont: Richard Snelling (R) reelected
•   Virginia: Chuck Robb (D) retiring-replaces Paul Trible, Jr. (R)
•   Washington: Slade Gorton (R) retiring-replaces Daniel Evans (R)
•   West Virginia: Robert Byrd (D) reelected
•   Wisconsin: Herb Kohl (D) retiring-replaces William Proxmire (D)
•   Wyoming: Malcolm Wallop (R) reelected
Afterwards (54-46 Democratic majority):
•   Delaware: Dale Wolf (R) retiring-replaces Joe Biden (D)
•   New York: Geraldine Ferraro (D) retiring-replaces Al d’Amato (R)
•   Texas: Beau Bolter (R) retiring-replaces Lloyd Bentsen (D)
•   Wyoming: Teno Roncalio (D) retiring-replaces Alan Simpson (R)

1990 Senate Elections (59-41 Democratic majority):
•   Alabama: Howell Heflin (D) reelected
•   Alaska: Ted Stevens (R) reelected
•   Arkansas: David Pryor (D) reelected
•   Colorado: Hank Brown (R) retiring-replaces William Armstrong (R)
•   Delaware: Dale Wolf (R) reelected
•   Georgia: Sam Nunn (D) reelected
•   Idaho: Larry Craig (R) retiring-replaces James McClure (R)
•   Illinois: Paul Simon (D) reelected
•   Iowa: Tom Harkin (D) reelected
•   Kansas: Nancy Landon Kassebaum (R) reelected
•   Kentucky: Harvey Sloane (D) defeats Mitch McConnell (R)
•   Louisiana: Bennett Johnston, Jr. (D) reelected
•   Maine: William Cohen (R) reelected
•   Massachusetts: John Kerry (D) reelected
•   Michigan: James Blanchard (D) defeats Robert Griffin (R)
•   Minnesota: Paul Wellstone (D) defeats Rudy Boschwitz (R)
•   Mississippi: Thad Cochran (R) reelected
•   Montana: Dorothy Bradley (D) defeats Stan Stephens (R)
•   Nebraska: Bob Kerrey (D) reelected
•   New Hampshire: Bob Smith (R) retiring-replaces Gordon Humphrey (R)
•   New Jersey: Bill Bradley (D) reelected
•   New Mexico: Joe Skeen (R) reelected
•   New York: Geraldine Ferraro (D) reelected
•   North Carolina: Harvey Gantt (D) defeats Jesse Helms (R)
•   Oklahoma: David Boren (D) reelected
•   Oregon: Norma Paulus (R) reelected
•   Rhode Island: Claiborne Pell (D) reelected
•   South Carolina: Strom Thurmond (R) reelected
•   South Dakota: Bill Janklow (R) reelected
•   Tennessee: Al Gore (D) reelected
•   Texas: Phil Gramm (R) reelected
•   Texas: Beau Bolter (R) reelected
•   Virginia: John Warner (R) reelected
•   West Virginia: Charlotte Pritt (D) retiring-replaces Arch Moore (R)
•   Wyoming: Craig Thomas (R) retiring-replaces Teno Roncalio (D)
Afterwards (60-40 Democratic majority):
•   North Dakota: Jocelyn Burdick (D) retiring-replaces Quentin Burdick (D)
•   Vermont: Bernie Sanders (D) retiring-replaces Richard Snelling (R)

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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #399 on: July 18, 2010, 08:45:07 PM »

It's gonna be at least another week guys.  I'm at camp, and thus away from the computer with my timeline.  Sorry Sad
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