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« on: January 23, 2009, 09:12:12 PM »

What's going on in Canada? France? Australia? Germany?
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2009, 05:35:43 PM »

Canada: On the whole, Canada remains unchanged.  Canada did send a small number of troops to help in Vietnam, although they were removed in 1968.

Thanks.

France:  As in RL, de Gaulle is reelected President in 1965, although he only needs one round of voting to do so.  He does not order the removal of foreign troops, and keeps France within the military organization of NATO.  De Gaulle is much more supportive of US efforts in Vietnam, and sends troops to help the US in 1966, although he removes them again in 1970.  Although May, 1968 does occur to some extent, there is none of the violent rioting, and de Gaulle does not hold elections until February, 1969, where he gains a major victory.  As of 1972, de Gaulle is still in power, although his health seems to be failing somewhat.

1. One round elections would never have occurred. Never. Especially under de Gaulle. It's set in stone.
2. If there is no election in 1968, why does de Gaulle dissolve in '69? Does he seek a larger majority than the one in the original 3rd legislature?
3. I assume the 1969 referendum passes, instead of failing.
4. Why would de Gaulle seek re-election in 1972 under poor health? Or are the 1972 elections not up yet?

Australia:  In the 1966 General Elections, Harold Holt scores a major victory, and is reelected; his party wins again in 1970, and elections are scheduled for March, 1973.

Germany:  East Germany, in 1973, is basically the same.  West Germany, likewise, is mostly unchanged, although Kiesinger's "Grand Coalition" is still in effect, although it is unlikely the Coalition will stand much longer, and Willy Brandt appears primed to be the next Prime Minister.

Fair enough.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 05:54:11 PM »

1. Ah. Misunderstood you. I thought you were saying the electoral system required one round only and not a runoff.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 05:11:01 PM »

Who is President of the Senate in France? Alain Poher? Gaston Monnerville?

Monnerville as interim President would be cool. Black guy as President in the '70s France, even for a few months?
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 07:31:01 PM »

Who is President of the Senate in France? Alain Poher? Gaston Monnerville?

Monnerville as interim President would be cool. Black guy as President in the '70s France, even for a few months?

Gaston would be cool as interim President, and It would be interesting to see him elected to a full term as President in his own right. It might get the US used to the idea of a Black President alot faster than in otl. Anyways, great installment Ben smart move pulling in some of the better components from OTL Johnson and Carter's cabinents although im suprised he didn't give Scoop State or Defense. Itll be interesting to see what other 2nd Great Society goals HHH can get passed and I look forward to it.

France wouldn't have elected a black man as President in 1972.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2009, 04:18:28 PM »

Hashemite: Poher is the President of the Senate, and so is President at the moment.

So Monnerville stepped down in 1969 as in RL to lead the NO campaign to the 1969 referendum?
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 05:50:55 PM »

Who won the snap Presidential election called in France after de Gaulle's death in 1974?
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2009, 10:14:32 PM »

Who won the snap Presidential election called in France after de Gaulle's death in 1974?

Poher did.

No chance in hell. Poher had little name recognition, a large part of his own party didn't even support him, and there'd obviously be much stronger candidates in the race, like Giscard or Chaban-Delmas or Mitterrand or whoever.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2009, 11:30:11 AM »

ROFLMAO at the Republicans winning Elliot County, KY. Epic fail. Or the Dems losing the solid Democratic mining counties in WV.

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 08:18:39 PM »

ROFLMAO at the Republicans winning Elliot County, KY. Epic fail. Or the Dems losing the solid Democratic mining counties in WV.

lololol

He gets one county wrong, and that's an epic fail?  Dude,...

Yes, but Elliot County. Elliot County. Come on now.

Anyways, what's the situation in France? Italy? Chile? Brazil? South Africa? Canada?
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2009, 06:55:40 AM »

Anyways, what's the situation in France? Italy? Chile? Brazil? South Africa? Canada?
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 09:02:06 AM »

Hmm. Seems like we forgot Elliot County again.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 03:09:12 PM »


Actually, look closer. You didn't.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2009, 04:07:11 PM »

I was referring to 1984, obviously. The blue landslide.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2009, 04:15:57 PM »

Damn it.  Well, I'm not perfect.  Deal with it.

You made a mistake, that's all. There's no need to be aggressive.
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2010, 05:45:11 PM »

Fernando Collor de Mello
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva
Fernando Henrique Cardoso

Where be they now?
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