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« Reply #1425 on: October 10, 2008, 12:41:59 pm »
« edited: October 10, 2008, 02:49:31 pm by PiT (The Physicist) »

When the other party has no real primary, they always get a landslide map at the start of the GE.

Yeah, I know, I was more agreeing with PiT's comment that ads are incredibly powerful in the game and that running a maximum number of hard-hitting ads right before the election often will dramatically swing the result.

     Indeed. Before I ran the ads, I was ahead by maybe ~50 EVs. Same thing has happened every other time I've tried it. I think I'll stop ad blitzing right before the election. Tongue
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« Reply #1426 on: October 10, 2008, 02:49:50 pm »

This reminded me. I must get back to work on my scenario with Jean Royer.
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« Reply #1427 on: October 11, 2008, 06:36:33 pm »

Ran as "me" in 2008, used funds to run ads in alot of the swing states and that payed off. I pulled out several scandals against Romney and mainly attacked Romney's experience and integrity. Nearly won IA, FL, WV, TN, KY, AR, GE, MS.



(D) - Jackson/Obama: 316 EV 53% PV
(R) - Romney/McCain: 222 EV 45% PV

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« Reply #1428 on: October 11, 2008, 06:41:13 pm »

Andy, what was your platform?
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« Reply #1429 on: October 11, 2008, 06:49:35 pm »

Andy, what was your platform?
I majorly used Iran, Iraq, Health Care, Experience and Homeland Security.
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« Reply #1430 on: October 11, 2008, 06:55:21 pm »

Andy, what was your platform?
I majorly used Iran, Iraq, Health Care, Experience and Homeland Security.

Sorry, what were your views on each issue?  Your entire platform?
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« Reply #1431 on: October 11, 2008, 07:02:20 pm »

Andy, what was your platform?
I majorly used Iran, Iraq, Health Care, Experience and Homeland Security.

Sorry, what were your views on each issue?  Your entire platform?
Thats alright but in a nutshell I had about one third of Centrist, Right and Left but most left and right were center-right and center-left so mainly I ran as a centrist. If you want me to post some of my standings on certain issues feel free to ask.
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« Reply #1432 on: October 12, 2008, 01:54:31 am »

2008 Presidential Election



Conor L. Flynn/Brian D. Schweitzer (D): 372 EV, 56.4% of the PV (72,720,670)
W. Mitt Romney/Michael D. Huckabee (R): 166 EV, 43.6% of the PV (56,299,623)

I inserted myself into the 2008 Enhanced Edition scenario and consequently ran as myself as Democratic Senator Conor Flynn of Maine. I will elaborate on both my bitter campaign against Senator Clinton, likewise with my bitter campaign against former Governor Romney at a later date. The 2008 Enhanced Edition can be found here. Much better than the original 80soft scenario. More realistic all around and added issues such as the Subprime Mortage Crisis, etc.
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« Reply #1433 on: October 12, 2008, 10:29:56 am »

Tried out Rocky's new scenario:

Warner/Bayh: 58% PV, 476 EV
McCain/Palin: 42% PV, 62 EV

Closest state was South Dakota, decided by 2,059 votes.
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« Reply #1434 on: October 12, 2008, 11:00:16 am »

HI? AK? WV? Huh
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« Reply #1435 on: October 12, 2008, 11:17:06 am »

HI? AK? WV? Huh

I have no idea.  I spent a couple turns in AK, but totally ignored HI and WV.
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« Reply #1436 on: October 17, 2008, 02:23:20 pm »

New 1960 scenario I created:


Humphrey/Kennedy: 49.5% PV, 281 EV
Nixon/Rockefeller: 48.9% PV, 237 EV
Byrd/Thurmond: 1.6% PV, 19 EV

Closest state was Alaska, decided by 334 votes.
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« Reply #1437 on: October 18, 2008, 12:01:59 pm »

That map sucks.
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« Reply #1438 on: October 18, 2008, 02:00:41 pm »

That map sucks.

What's your problem with it?
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« Reply #1439 on: October 18, 2008, 02:14:38 pm »

That map sucks.

What's your problem with it?

SC...
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« Reply #1440 on: October 18, 2008, 02:25:23 pm »

That map sucks.

What's your problem with it?

SC...

The state barely went to Kennedy; you expect it to go to Humphrey?
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« Reply #1441 on: October 18, 2008, 02:31:35 pm »

That map sucks.

What's your problem with it?

SC...

The state barely went to Kennedy; you expect it to go to Humphrey?

Then why does Humphrey win the rest of the South?
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« Reply #1442 on: October 18, 2008, 03:09:44 pm »

That map sucks.

What's your problem with it?

SC...

The state barely went to Kennedy; you expect it to go to Humphrey?

Then why does Humphrey win the rest of the South?

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.
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« Reply #1443 on: October 18, 2008, 06:17:04 pm »

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.
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« Reply #1444 on: October 18, 2008, 07:24:09 pm »

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.
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« Reply #1445 on: October 18, 2008, 08:02:35 pm »

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.
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« Reply #1446 on: October 18, 2008, 08:08:29 pm »

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.

I was thinking I'm put him everywhere Thurmond appeared on the ballot, with Thurmond's numbers, but make him a lot stronger in Virginia.
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« Reply #1447 on: October 18, 2008, 08:12:12 pm »

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.

I was thinking I'm put him everywhere Thurmond appeared on the ballot, with Thurmond's numbers, but make him a lot stronger in Virginia.

     Are you going to bother putting him on the ballot in CA & ND? Tongue
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« Reply #1448 on: October 18, 2008, 08:15:56 pm »

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.

I was thinking I'm put him everywhere Thurmond appeared on the ballot, with Thurmond's numbers, but make him a lot stronger in Virginia.

     Are you going to bother putting him on the ballot in CA & ND? Tongue

No Tongue  Although I haven't decided on the percentages.
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« Reply #1449 on: October 21, 2008, 12:31:59 am »



Saffle/Biden: 466
Huckabee/Pataki: 72

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