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« Reply #1775 on: July 28, 2009, 07:05:14 pm »
« edited: July 28, 2009, 09:57:52 pm by Lahbas »

Played as Al Gore in the 2000 scenario, starting in the general election. Simply played off Bush's unpopular views on Nation-Building, footsoldiers, and ads. A two-day ad blitz, combined with two massive scandals put the final nail in the coffin.



Light Colored States are within 3% of the runnerup.

Texas was actually unexpected. For a long time I was behind, and even on election day, polls showed Bush leading 55-41. For a while, I thought I might capture the state, but it eventually fell back into Bush's column.

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 58,633,338 54.4%/390 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 46,156,167 42.8%/148 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,024,045 2.8%/0 Electoral
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« Reply #1776 on: July 28, 2009, 07:35:39 pm »

2012



President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 535 electoral votes and 76,245,410 (64.2%) popular votes
Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) - 3 electoral votes and 42,519,275 (35.8%) popular votes

That would be the most hilarious Republican ticket ever!

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« Reply #1777 on: July 28, 2009, 09:56:00 pm »

Played the 2000 scenario as Bush, starting with the general election, following a similar strategy as I did with Gore. However, I attacked Gore on Health-Care reform, while centralizing my views a bit in Nation-Building so he could not attack me as well. The campaign went better than expected, despite Cheney doing better in the debates than Bush (he lost all three). Massive media blitz at the end ensured a massive turnout. The only problem I did have was that I never managed to find a scandal on Gore, despite spending 3 weeks researching. Guy was very clean this time around.



All Lightly Colored States were within 2% of the runnerup.

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 61,328,015 56.9%/472 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 43,010,784 39.9%/66 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,368,490 3.1%/0 Electoral
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« Reply #1778 on: July 28, 2009, 11:54:24 pm »

Bush v. Lieberman     2004 Election

I played as Lieberman. Lieberman barely won a hotly contested primary. He was far behind all the way, and despite a very effective ad blitz the last week, the results were still poor.

He only won DC, New York, and Rhode Island. The last two were won by less than 2 percent.
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« Reply #1779 on: July 29, 2009, 07:45:00 am »

2012



President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 535 electoral votes and 76,245,410 (64.2%) popular votes
Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) - 3 electoral votes and 42,519,275 (35.8%) popular votes

That's not so far from the reality if Palin had run.
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« Reply #1780 on: July 29, 2009, 01:08:32 pm »

Played as John Glenn in the 1984 General Election. On election I thought I was going to win, because I had massive momentum, there were a lot of tossup states, and Reagan had a lot of negative momentum. I was surprised by the results.



Light Colored States are within 2% of the runner up.

What made the defeat even worse was that I had won the Popular Vote by a comfortable margin, despite being destroyed in the electoral vote. I at least had the satisfaction of taking Reagan's home state. This might also be the only election in which the nominee's both lost their home states to their opponent, while the Vice-Nominee's captured theirs.

Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 40,930,579 49.5%/330 Electoral
John  Glenn (D-OH)/Dale Bumpers (D-AK) 41,808,473 50.5%/208 Electoral
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« Reply #1781 on: July 29, 2009, 04:39:52 pm »
« Edited: July 29, 2009, 04:42:49 pm by Reelect In 2012 »

2012 election
Democratic primaries


President Obama - Red
Senator Warner - Blue

The popular Senator Warner of Virginia challenged the incumbent President Obama to the Democratic Nomination only to be swiftly beaten back on Super Tuesday.


Republican primaries
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Green - Senator Crist
Blue - Governor Romney
Orange - Governor Sanford
Red - Governor Huckabee
Yellow - Governor Palin
Light Teal(?) - Governor Jindal (Louisiana and Rhode Island)
Black - Senator Crist wins by default due to Governor Romney's concession

Romney, the early frontrunner, lost the Republican nomination at the final hurdle. Charlie Crist, who came second in the popular vote, edged out Mitt Romney to the nomination thanks to the endorsements of Governor's Huckabee, Sanford, Jindal and Palin. Can the former Governor and current Junior Senator from Florida beat the incumbent Barack Obama after the pair have become almost bi-partisan allies over the course of Obama's first term?


General Election


President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 440 electoral votes and 69,749,613 (57.1%) popular votes
Senator Charlie Crist (R-FL)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 98 electoral votes and 43,837,451 (35.9%) popular votes
Former Governor Jesse Ventura (L-MN)/Representative Ron Paul (L-TX) - 8,541,759 (7.0%) popular votes
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« Reply #1782 on: July 29, 2009, 09:23:28 pm »

Ran as Perot against only Pat Buchanan to see what would happen.



(R)-Pat Buchanan/Alexander Haig: 528 EV, 68.1%
(I)-Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 10 EV, 31.9%
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« Reply #1783 on: July 29, 2009, 10:13:42 pm »

Ran as Perot against only Pat Buchanan to see what would happen.



(R)-Pat Buchanan/Alexander Haig: 528 EV, 68.1%
(I)-Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 10 EV, 31.9%
Try Perot against the Democrats, it's more interesting that way. Buchanan was very likely to be far ahead of your fundraising rates going into the election. With the Democrats, at least you should be able to take most of the Republican base, and therefore not face that same problem.
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« Reply #1784 on: July 30, 2009, 11:55:55 am »
« Edited: July 30, 2009, 01:22:40 pm by Lt. Governor Barnes »

1992 Presidential (No Republicans)

Part I: Democratic Primaries

The Primaries were filled to the brim with candidates. But at the beginning, it seemed like a Clinton-Cuomo fight. After February, the only major candidates left were Clinton, Cuomo, and Jay Rockefeller. Rockefeller started picking up steam, and split the south with Clinton, and Cuomo was unable to catch a majority of delegates.



Mario Cuomo-1599 Delegates, and 42.1% of the popular vote
Jay Rockefeller-939 Delegates, and 28.4% of the popular vote
Bill Clinton-869 Delegates, and 29.4% of the popular vote

It looked like the Convention battle would be between Cuomo and Rockefeller with Clinton playing as king-maker. But two weeks after the last primaries, Clinton endorsed Rockefeller and dropped out. With all of Clinton's delegates, Rockefeller was the Democratic nominee.



Jay Rockefeller-1808 Delegates
Mario Cuomo-1599 Delegates

At the Convention, Rockefeller picked Bill Bradley as his running mate and headed into the General election to face Perot/Stockdale.

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« Reply #1785 on: July 30, 2009, 12:39:47 pm »

Rockefeller had a crushing lead in the polls during the entire election. Perot tried to hold on to he Mountain West, the only region he was winning in, but even there, some states slipped through his fingers. He was also competitive in Maine and New Hampshire.

Rockefeller crushed Perot in all three debates, and Bradley crushed Stockdale. And on election day, the Democrats won in a huge landslide. 



Rockefeller/Bradley-505 electoral votes, and 43,707,902 (62.2%) popular votes
Perot/Stockdale-33 electoral votes, and 26,552,157 (37.8%) popular votes


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« Reply #1786 on: July 30, 2009, 03:25:27 pm »

I also ran Perot against Democrats, but I did Clinton and Gore instead as Dem.

Clinton: 56.6%
Perot: 43.4%

Closest States: Texas, Colorado, North Dakota, Florida, New Hampshire

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« Reply #1787 on: July 30, 2009, 04:55:37 pm »
« Edited: July 30, 2009, 05:24:35 pm by Reelect In 2012 »

I've just played a scenario which took place in 2008 with Kerry as the incumbent President after beating GWB in 2004. I played as John Kerry.

Kerry, having become unpopular, faced primary challenges from 4 other Democrats with his closest opponent being Former Representative and V.P. nominee Geraldine Ferraro (LOL!) with Governor Ed Rendell and Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthanal in third and fourth place respectively. Blumenthal dropped out early on in the primaries and endorsed Representative Ferraro. Ferraro's picked up some strong momentum after winning alot of the early states (Kerry carried Nevada, Rendell carried South Carolina and Blumenthal carried Michigan). This momentum carried her to some strong wins on Super Tuesday. It seemed like a sure thing that Ferraro would become the Democratic nominee until "Mini Tuesday" in March when Kerry pulled off an unexpected victory in Ohio. Kerry's only other victory following Ohio was in Indiana.  Rendell went on the pick up some heavy momentum, as Ferraro's began to fizzle out, leading him to some strong wins in the final primaries, although he remained in a distant third place. Governor Rendell went onto endorse President Kerry in July, giving Kerry a majority of the delegates making him the Democratic Nominee.

Due to Vice President John Edwards' resignation midway through his term, President Kerry selected Senator Barack Obama as his new running mate. Due to the strongly divided primary battle for the Democrats, Kerry began the general election far behind Governor Mitt Romney (who beat VP Cheney, Sec. Powell, Sec. Rice, Sen. McCain and Gov. Perry in the Republican primary) in the polls, leading in only 8 states. Kerry climbed his way up in the polls until he was tied with the Governor. The weekend before the election, the tied "swing states" were Oregon, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, Missouri, Arkansas and Colorado. President Kerry rested his hopes, once again, on a win in Ohio.




President John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 305 electoral votes and 84,125,338 (47.2%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Senator George Allen (R-VA) - 233 electoral votes and 76,719,219 (43.1%) popular votes
Others (Badnarik and Peroutka) - 17,327,298 (9.8%) popular votes
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« Reply #1788 on: July 31, 2009, 01:28:24 am »

Where might one download the 1992 and 2008 Enhanced scenarios?
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« Reply #1789 on: July 31, 2009, 06:07:57 am »

Where might one download the 1992 and 2008 Enhanced scenarios?

I need the 1992 scenario aswell. I've uploaded the 2008 enhanced scenario for you.

http://rapidshare.com/files/262097432/2008enhancedscenarioP4E.zip.html
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« Reply #1790 on: July 31, 2009, 09:14:30 am »

Well, err, it was there when I got the game. Try updating the game?
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« Reply #1791 on: July 31, 2009, 01:55:31 pm »

1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:



Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.
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« Reply #1792 on: July 31, 2009, 02:43:40 pm »

1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:



Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Damn.
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« Reply #1793 on: July 31, 2009, 02:44:22 pm »

1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:



Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Damn.

What happened in New York, though?
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« Reply #1794 on: July 31, 2009, 03:56:01 pm »
« Edited: July 31, 2009, 03:59:35 pm by Reelect In 2012 »

1996 election scenario



President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) - 489 electoral votes and 66,492,537 (56.0%) popular votes
Former Senator Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-KS)/Governor John Engler (R-MI) - 49 electoral votes and 38,755,063 (32.7%) popular votes
Former Governor Richard Lamm (Reform-CO)/Pat Choate (Reform-DC) - 13,426,569 (11.3%) popular votes
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« Reply #1795 on: July 31, 2009, 04:52:24 pm »

Could I have a link to the 1996 scenario? Or did you create it?
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« Reply #1796 on: July 31, 2009, 05:02:39 pm »

Could I have a link to the 1996 scenario? Or did you create it?

It's from the theory spark forum.

http://rapidshare.com/files/130381018/United_States_-_1996.zip.html
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« Reply #1797 on: July 31, 2009, 07:08:56 pm »

Could I have a link to the 1996 scenario? Or did you create it?

It's from the theory spark forum.

http://rapidshare.com/files/130381018/United_States_-_1996.zip.html
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« Reply #1798 on: July 31, 2009, 10:08:53 pm »

1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:



Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Damn.

What happened in New York, though?

Bush won by roughly 5%. I think it's because it was a pivotal state in the primaries and so he campaigned there a lot.
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« Reply #1799 on: July 31, 2009, 11:28:30 pm »

Where might one download the 1992 and 2008 Enhanced scenarios?

I need the 1992 scenario aswell. I've uploaded the 2008 enhanced scenario for you.

http://rapidshare.com/files/262097432/2008enhancedscenarioP4E.zip.html

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