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« Reply #2725 on: September 14, 2014, 05:40:08 pm »

Playing through my 2004 scenario.

George W. Bush gets primaried by Senator John McCain. Colin Powell starts off as "undecided" on running.

For the Democrats, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Joe Lieberman, Wesley Clark, Dick Gephardt, and John Edwards are all turned on. Al Gore is turned on as "undecided"

Ralph Nader is on. I will play as my "Observer" candidate which does nothing.

GOP Primaries:

Nov 2003 - George W. Bush starts off with a full map in his favor.

Nov 2003 - Powell decides against running.

Jan 2004 - Bush leads big in both Iowa and NH..66% - 15% against McCain.

Iowa Result - Bush wins 70-30

New Hampshire - Bush wins 72-28

After Super Tuesday in March...Bush has 822 delegates to McCain's 44...Bush leads nationally 74.6% to McCain's 23.7%...


Democratic Primaries:


Nov 2003 - If Gore jumps in, he'll have a 10% lead over Dean with the others trailing behind, but not too far behind.

Dec 2003 - Gore jumps in. Gore still ahead, the others are catching up.

Jan 2004 - Gore is at 26.7% and leads in IA, SC, NV (barely in IA & NV). Dean is at 17.1%. Edwards leads in NH 41.3%-22.2% for Kerry.

Iowa Result - Kerry wins Iowa (24%) to Dean's 20.1%. Gephardt in third for 20%, Edwards at 19.9%...Gore at 12%...Clark at 2.1% and Lieberman at 2%.

New Hampshire - Kerry wins 23.8% to Clark's 22.7%...Edwards 17.7%...Lieberman 16.8%...Gore 7.3%...Dean 7%...Gephardt 5%...

After Super Tuesday: Gore has 467 delegates, 21.8% polling...Kerry 225 del, 16.6%....Dean 112 del, 14.7%....Gephardt (took California) 292 del, 12.5%...Clark, Lieberman and Edwards all have 80ish delegates...9-12% in the polls...Gephardt endorses Kerry soon after.

Mid March - Kerry pulls ahead w/ 30.7% polling and 1,675 delegates. Dean, Lieberman and Edwards all also drop out and (I think) endorse Kerry...


The General

Bush cruises to renomination ultimately winning over 80% of the popular vote. He switches up his VP and picks Colin Powell.

Kerry wins the nomination and selects Senator Diane Feinstein as his running mate. In August 2004, the GOP leads the Democrats 46.1% - 31.8% and 389 EV to 80 EV.

October:

The GOP maintains their lead despite Kerry winning all the debates.

November:

On the eve of election...



Bush leads 50.9% to 36.9% and 359 to 179.

Election Results



President George W. Bush / Secretary of State Colin Powell - 58.3% popular vote, 355 electoral votes
Senator John Kerry / Senator Diane Feinstein - 40.7% popular vote, 183 electoral votes
Ralph Nader - 0 electoral votes, 0.9% popular vote
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« Reply #2726 on: September 15, 2014, 11:09:21 pm »

My Obama/Bachmann simulation resulted in an Obama win as expected, but the map may shock you:



Obama/Biden: 293 ; 51% (PV)
Bachmann/Jindal: 245 ; 47.2%
Johnson/Gray (me, no campaigning): 0 ; 1.8%

States won by Obama by less than 10%:
Oregon: 1.0%
Wisconsin: 2.9%
Missouri: 3.3%
New Hampshire: 3.6%
Minnesota: 7.3%
Washington: 9.5%


States won by Bachmann by less than 10%:
Virginia: 0.6%
Colorado: 1.1%
Indiana: 5.1%
Montana: 5.7%
Georgia: 6.7%
West Virginia: 7.1%
Arizona: 7.3%
North Carolina: 8.9%
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« Reply #2727 on: September 16, 2014, 10:20:24 am »

I've been wondering if there was a 1904 or 1912 Scenario for President Forever 2008?
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« Reply #2728 on: September 16, 2014, 11:47:37 am »

Doing this one from memory, so it may be a bit off but y'all will get the general jest

United States presidential election, 1912



Wilson - 207
Taft - 196
Roosevelt - 128

Played as Taft in this scenario.

Since I knew I had an uphill battle in this scenario, I decided to go very negative for my campaign strategy.  I originally had two of my theme planks set to negatives - attacking Roosevelt on conservation and Wilson on tariffs.  My original goal was to avoid a 3rd place finish, but as the campaign went on I figured that Roosevelt was more of a friend than an enemy as long as he kept Wilson from winning states in the West.  So, I switched my theme to 2/3 planks being anti-Wilson and that's when the momentum really began to change.  In a somewhat strange happening, I was endorsed by labor unions while Wilson won the support of Tammany Hall.  On election eve, I was projected to finish with more than 270 electoral votes despite still being 8-10 points behind Wilson in the popular vote.  As results came in though, I suffered surprise losses in NY and IL which allowed Wilson to finish ahead of me.  Still the fact that I almost won an outright majority in the electoral college with only apprx. 35% of the popular  vote would have been pretty legit haha.  It goes to the House, which apparently is in Republican control.   
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« Reply #2729 on: September 20, 2014, 12:28:52 pm »

A battle of two (fairly) weak tickets results in the electoral loser winning the popular vote:




Alan Grayson (D-FL)/Martin O'Malley (D-MD) - 312 Electoral Votes; 49.7%
Ben Carson (R-MI)/Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 226 Electoral Votes; 49.9%
Jill Stein (G-MA)/Cheri Honkala (G-PA) - 0 Electoral Votes; 0.4%

I played as Stein and did nothing, but ended up causing Grayson's loss in the popular vote.

States won by Grayson by less than 10%:
Michigan: 0.6%
North Carolina: 2.0%
Iowa: 2.4%
Pennsylvania: 4.1%
Washington: 4.3%
Minnesota: 5.4%
Ohio: 6.1%
Maine: 7.9%
Colorado: 8.4%
California: 9.5%

States won by Carson by less than 10%:
Oregon: 0.3%
Virginia: 0.8%
Missouri: 4.2%
New Mexico: 5.2%
Nevada: 8.4%


(New Hampshire has the distinction of having a margin of exactly 10%)
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« Reply #2730 on: September 22, 2014, 06:36:57 pm »



All hail Lord Gore in his redeeming victory!

Gore/Dodd - 463
Romney/Huckabee - 75
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« Reply #2731 on: September 22, 2014, 08:40:15 pm »
« Edited: September 22, 2014, 08:55:15 pm by Senator Polnut »

Weirdest... result...

So I started in primaries in 2008... I won got off to a good start by winning IA, NH... Richardson won NV. Obama won SC, I won the empty FL primary and Clinton won MI.

Super Tuesday rolled around. I won MO, MN, TN, CA, NJ, MA... Clinton won a few things here (inc NY, but only beat me there by 2%) and there and Obama won the rest. It settled into a fairly close three-way race... all the way to late May, when Clinton dropped out an endorsed me.

In early July, I picked Obama as my running-mate.

Early on, I started to see what was going to be my problem. I was very popular in the Democratic states, not incredibly unpopular in the solid GOP states and very unsteady in the swing states. I also had a massive money advantage over Romney.

To give an example - I had 20%+ leads in CA, IL and the Northeast (except Delaware for some reason). Those leads only grew. Whereas I never had a clear lock on any of the swing states.

In the weirdest outcomes... the states that finally decided the election... were KS and AK.



Me/Obama - 267 EV  - 54.1%
Romney/Giuliani - 271 EV - 45.2%
Others - 0.7%

So behold... I won the national vote by more than 10,000,000 and lost the presidency by 365 votes in AK and 1659 in KS. I lost DE (!) by 2464 votes.

To give you an idea of how weird this was...

Texas
Romney - 53.6%
Me - 45.9%

Connecticut
Me - 74.3%
Romney - 24.8%

States with margins of below 2%
KS, AK, DE, NM, FL

States decided by 2-5%
IN, VA, WV, IA, WI, NV, CO, MI, TN

To further demonstrate... I'm going to show you polling at 4 weeks, 2 weeks,1 week and 2 days out to show you how nuts this was...

4 Weeks out


PV Polling:
Me - 49.5%
Romney - 47.5%

2 weeks out


PV Polling:
Me - 51.7%
Romney - 46.3%

- This represented a surge for Romney in the swing states and my numbers in solid GOP states moving up

One week out...



PV Polling
Me: 52%
Romney: 46%

Romney continued to slide in solid states, but we tussled for the swing states... it finally looked like I had this.

Two days out


Me: 53.2%
Romney: 45%
... you can see my frustration, I am throwing EVERYTHING at OH, FL, IA, CO and NV to swing the EC vote back to see. I can see my vote hitting the 60s in CA, IL and the mid-late 60s in MA, RI, CT and NY... but I'm down by tiny margins where it matters. And Romney was able to hold those leads and presents an election for the history books.
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« Reply #2732 on: September 23, 2014, 09:13:56 am »



Howard Dean/Wesley Clark - 364 Electoral Votes
George Bush/Dick Cheney - 174 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #2733 on: September 27, 2014, 11:06:01 pm »

2000

Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Governor Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH): 428 Electoral Votes, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Governor George Bush (R-TX)/Former Governor Lamar Alexander (R-TN): 110 Electoral Votes, 41.1% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Winona LaDuke (G-MN): 3.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Pat Buchanan (RF-DC)/Congressman Virgil Goode (RF-VA): 2.0% of the popular vote.

Curbstomped Gore in the primaries, and somehow managed to beat Bush in a huge landslide. I don’t understand Utah or Texas, or how Buchanan got 13% in Vermont.
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« Reply #2734 on: September 30, 2014, 02:21:43 pm »



State Senator Richard Codey - 49.3%
Mayor Steve Lonegan - 34.9%
Dr. Murray Sabrin - 7.5%
Governor Jim McGreevey - 8.4%
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« Reply #2735 on: October 05, 2014, 08:25:44 pm »

Played as Bloomberg, sat back and watched a Cruz/Castro matchup, and was massively surprised:



Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Rand Paul (R-KY): 365
Julian Castro (D-TX)/Amy Klobuchar (D-MN): 173
Michael Bloomberg: 0
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« Reply #2736 on: October 07, 2014, 10:43:33 pm »

And here's another amazing scenario:



Sarah Palin/Mike Lee - 324 (53%)
Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro - 214 (47%)
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala - 0 (<1%)

States won by Sarah Palin by less than 10%
Rhode Island - 0.1%
Colorado - 1.5%
Wisconsin - 1.9%
Delaware - 3.5%
Maine - 4.6%
Ohio - 4.8%
Nevada - 5.2%
Oregon - 5.9%
New Mexico - 8.9%
Virginia - 9.5%
New Hampshire - 9.6%

States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10%
Washington - 0.7%
Minnesota - 1.3%
Illinois - 2.3%
Michigan - 2.8%
New Jersey - 7.1%
Connecticut - 7.4%
New York - 9.0%
Pennsylvania - 9.8%
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« Reply #2737 on: October 08, 2014, 08:16:02 pm »

Played as Cuomo/Richards in 1992 and crushed Bush. Heh.



Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Ann Richards (D-TX): 482 EVs, 48,135,826 PVs (43.7%)
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA): 56 EVs, 31,501,973 PVs (28.6%)
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Colin Powell (R-NY): 0 EVs, 30,459,065 PVs (27.7%)
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« Reply #2738 on: October 10, 2014, 09:42:09 am »

^impressive
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« Reply #2739 on: October 13, 2014, 03:26:42 pm »



Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)
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« Reply #2740 on: October 15, 2014, 08:55:22 am »



Senator Rafael "Ted" Cruz (R-TX)/Governor Timothy Pawlenty (R-MN): 399 EVs, 71,118,797 PVs (55.3%)
Vice President Joseph Biden (D-DE)/Senator Timothy Kaine (D-VA): 139 EVs, 57,598,682 PVs (44.7%)
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« Reply #2741 on: October 15, 2014, 02:42:07 pm »



Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)
What scenario is this? Is for PFE 2008 or the new version?
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« Reply #2742 on: October 15, 2014, 03:38:00 pm »



Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)
What scenario is this? Is for PFE 2008 or the new version?
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« Reply #2743 on: October 15, 2014, 04:31:49 pm »



Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)
What scenario is this? Is for PFE 2008 or the new version?
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Is the scenario available for download? I can't find any good scenarios that I don't already have.
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« Reply #2744 on: October 15, 2014, 06:52:16 pm »



1948

Truman/Barkley - 276 EV - 45.1%
Dewey/Warren - 217 EV - 43.2%
Thurmond/Wright - 38 EV - 8.6%
Wallace/Taylor - 0 EV - 3.1%

Nothing I could do could help me in the west. But I over-performed in the Mid-Atlantic.
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« Reply #2745 on: October 19, 2014, 10:09:04 am »
« Edited: October 21, 2014, 05:33:03 pm by SirNick »

I played President Infinity as Bill Richardson in 2008 on hard



Bill Richardson (Yellow) - 2266 Delegates (2028 to win)
Hillary Clinton (Blue) - 1 Delegate
Barack Obama (Red) - 1788 Delegates

John Edwards, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Dennis Kucinich all dropped out without winning any states.

On the Republican primary side, Mitt Romney defeated his chief rival, John McCain.

As of July 4th, here's how the map looks for the general.

Note: I used the 2012 map accidentally.



Note: I used the 2012 map accidentally

Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) - 266 Electoral Votes, 44.1%  Popular Vote
Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) -  272 Electoral Votes, 41.5% Popular Vote

On the eve of the elction





Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) - 285 Electoral Votes, 52.1%  Popular Vote
Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) -  253 Electoral Votes, 44.5% Popular Vote


Results!!


Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) - 355 Electoral Votes, 53.3%  Popular Vote
Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) -  183 Electoral Votes, 44.5% Popular Vote
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« Reply #2746 on: November 02, 2014, 07:52:30 pm »



Gov. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)/Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA) - 271 EV, 35.1% PV
Pres. Ross Perot (I-TX)/VP Jerry Brown (I-CA) - 186 EV, 34.2% PV
Sen. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE) - 81 EV, 30.7% PV

A mere 2,000 votes in Alaska seperated a Carroll win overall from it being sent to Congress. Phun.
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« Reply #2747 on: November 05, 2014, 10:51:52 pm »
« Edited: November 06, 2014, 09:35:40 pm by Illuminati Blood Drinker »

Speaking of Perot...



Mr. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Mr. Pat Choate (I-TX): 420 Electoral Votes, 42,418,092 Popular Votes (38.5%)
Pres. George Bush (R-TX)/Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA): 84 Electoral Votes, 35,944,656 Popular Votes (32.6%)
Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY): 34 Electoral Votes, 31,734,117 Popular Votes (28.8%)

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« Reply #2748 on: November 11, 2014, 05:21:05 pm »
« Edited: November 11, 2014, 05:22:41 pm by Branden Cordeiro »

CLINTON DISASTER
Bush wins thanks to strong showings from third party candidates.


Bush after becoming the President-elect of the United States on Tuesday night




Gov. Jeb Bush/Sen. Rick Santorum (R) - 49% 66,208,970 (472 electoral votes)
Sec. Hilary Clinton/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) - 34.5% 46,606,450 (66 electoral votes)
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Sec. Chuck Hagel (I) - 11.1% 14,933,744 (0 electoral votes)   
Gov. Gary Johnson/Gov. Jesse Ventura (L) - 2.8% 3,766,421 (0 electoral votes)

Dr. Jill Stein/Mrs. Cheri Honkala (G) - 2.6% 3,500,262 (0 electoral votes)
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« Reply #2749 on: November 11, 2014, 08:21:59 pm »



Gov. Chris Christie/Gov. Susana Martinez - 44% 59,700,140 (320 EV)
Gov. Martin O'Malley/Sen. Kristen Gillibrand - 39% 52,116,227 (213 EV)
Gov. Gary Johnson/Gov. Jesse Ventura - 5% 6,501,123 (5 EV)
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Sec. Chuck Hagel - 12% 15,637,172 (0 EV)
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