President Forever results thread...

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Santa Clara County will never fall!.

That's the County that Gray and Brown were fighting for and he won it by a point.

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Total Votes: 117,360,424

Me: 363 - 64,889,959 [55.3%]
Huckabee: 175 - 52,470,464 [44.7%]

Were Nebraska and Kansas apart of your strategy or did you some how manage to win over the 20+ undecided voters on Election Day?

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John McCain/Condoleeza Rice (R): 320 EV, 50.7% (61,667,094)

Ted Strickland/Joe Biden (D): 218 EV, 49.3% (60,047,747)

I ran as Governor Ted Strickland of Ohio. You know what I usually do in President Forever so theres no point explaining it. And this was the result. I lost Illinois by about 0.5 points. Stupid Game.

This was 2012 - President McCain by the Way. You can find this scenario, as long as many other ones for President Forever + Primaries Here

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Everytime I have Condi as my running mate, Alabama quickly becomes a swing state. If I win the state, it's by 2 or 3%

I am surprised as that has never happened to me, though on many occassions the Republican has managed to win half of New England and lose most of the South. Stupid Game. That's President Forever + Primaries for you, the results are not realistic. As you can see in many maps posted.

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Arnold Vinick/Ray Sullivan (R): 313 EV, 49.4% of the PV (59,940,988)
Matthew Santos/Leo McGarry (D): 225 EV, 48.6% of the PV (58,966,386)
Seth Gillette/Sydney Wade (I): 0 EV, 2.0% of the PV (2,423,303)

In this 2006 West Wing scenario, I ran as Independent candidate Senator Seth Gillette of North Dakota. My main focus in this campaign was the state of Vermont. Though I only wound up with 9 percent of the vote, I did play a spoiler in the state causing Vermont to vote for Vinick. However this was not my best result as Gillette. In North Dakota, New Mexico and Arizona I did crack 10 percent.

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McCain seems to carry Maine a lot

Any Republican candidate in President Forever + Primaries wins the state of Maine A LOT. Hell even Tim Pawlenty won Maine, now that would never happen in RL. And if Pawlenty was somehow nominated for the Presidency of the United States in the near future and won Maine, I would be very, very scared.

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Moments ago I ran as Mayor Michael Bloomberg against Senators Barack Obama and John McCain. However this time, I did not begin to play from 2 weeks out from Election Day. I actually started at the beginning. I carefully selected the states in my strategy and ran commercials often my views on the major issues of the campaign (Personal Tax, Health Care, War on Terror) and it worked. Thanks to my strategy this is how the Electoral Map looked on Election Day:

Obama/Biden (D): 204 EV, 43.5% of the PV
McCain/Sanford (R): 181 EV, 40.3% of the PV
Bloomberg/Zinni (I): 0 EV, 4.1% of the PV
Undecided: 153 EV, 12.0% of the PV

As the Election Day map suggested, the 2008 Presidential Election was going to be close. And it was, very, very close. The Election came down to Missouri and it's 11 Electoral Votes. McCain led until Obama pulled away when 75% of the vote was counted. Obama ended up winning Missouri and thus the Presidency of the United States by 5,024 votes.

Many other states were quite close in this Election too. Most notably Ohio and West Virginia. Ohio ended up giving it's 20 Electoral Votes to McCain by 11,000 votes, whilst West Virginia gave it's 5 Electoral Votes to Obama by 5,000 votes.

Barack Obama/Joe Biden (D): 273 EV, 45.8% of the PV (46,744,934)
John McCain/Mark Sanford (R): 265 EV, 43.2% of the PV (44,090,351)
Michael Bloomberg/Anthony Zinni (I): 0 EV, 10.9% of the PV (11,131,865)

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Texas?

>80%? Very weird. So is California, at >70%.

I think the person that designed the scenario ed up the percentages in Texas and California. On numerous occassions when I have either been playing as a Republican or a Democrat, I have always scored massive wins in either state.

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A few days ago, I played as Senator Jordan Lyman in the 1956 Manchurian Candidate scenario for the orginial President Forever. And this was one of the closest Elections, since I began playing President Forever.

Jordan Lyman/William Richards (D): 267 EV, 47% of the PV (37,320,826)
John Iselin/Adam Smith (R): 264 EV, 47% of the PV (37,210,168)
James M. Scott/Bennet Marco (I): 0 EV, 4% of the PV (3,702,975)

I won the White House and saved America from a Communist take over! I honestly thought I wouldn't win as Lyman as things were not going my way, but thankfully the Election came down to Washington, where a day prior to the Election I was leading Iselin 57-41 in the polls.

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Humphrey/Muskie: 44% PV, 282 EV
Nixon/Agnew: 35% PV, 103 EV
Wallace/LeMay: 20% PV, 153 EV

Those are some weird results. Who as?

I was HHH.

What was your strategy?

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

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Gore/Obama: 51.1% PV, 274 EV
Romney/Huckabee: 48.9% PV, 264

I won Wyoming by only 141 votes, and lost Virginia by 4,849 votes.

That map is unspeakably weird.

I assume you are playing the 80soft version of 2008, where the Libertarians and Constitution Party gain up to 7% or more on Election Day? Well it doesn't happen with a new 2008 scenario I got, I think you'll be able to find it on the 80soft website 2008 Gold Version 3 it's called. If not I'll send it to you guys.

Speaking of that new 2008 scenario, I added myself as an Independent candidate in the scenario and faced off against Obama and McCain. I got the exact same Electoral College map 3 times. With Obama getting about 47% and 349 EV, McCain getting 45% and 189 EV and myself getting 5% and 0 EV.

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In a rare case of the game looking just like the real thing, I submit this 1972 Nixon v. Muskie (I played as Nixon).

Nixon: 59.9% PV, 521 EV
Muskie: 40.1% PV, 17 EV

1972 scenario with Muskie? Is this for the original President Forever or President Forever + Primaries. Or did you add Muskie?

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Lloyd Bentsen/Hugh Carey (D): 384 EV, 55.2% of the PV (54,231,221)
Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 155 EV, 44.8% of the PV (44,090,970)

I ran as Lloyd Bentsen in this 1976 scenario. I built up my base in the South early and my campaign for the Presidency of the United States never looked back. On Election Night, I was surprised to find out that I managed to crack the 60 percent mark in a few states. How the hell was I able to do that, with only 3 million dollars left on Election Day and with a power 9 scandal on me?

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433 (63.4%)-105 (36.6%)

Guess.

You ran as Bill Clinton against Ross Perot? And you won in a landslide.

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433 (63.4%)-105 (36.6%)

Guess.

You ran as Bill Clinton against Ross Perot? And you won in a landslide.

Close. Actually, it was Brown/Bentsen vs. Perot/Stockdale. And I did nothing but press the spacebar through the whole game.

Jerry Brown sweeping the entire South? The joys of President Forever + Primaries. Reminds me that I ran as Gene McCarthy today against President Ford and Governor Wallace. Wallace somehow managed to win DC and numerous other parts of the United States where his politics aren't tolerated. The bright side was I finished 2nd in the District of Columbia with 17.65!

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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place .

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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place .

Why does McCarthy always do so well in 1976, when he's only at 1% on election day?

Actually, I gave all of the candidates $999,000,000 dollars at the start of the campaign, including Gene McCarthy too. That's why I finished second in numerous states around the country and led in Massachusetts with 5 percent of the vote in!

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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place .

Why does McCarthy always do so well in 1976, when he's only at 1% on election day?

Actually, I gave all of the candidates $999,000,000 dollars at the start of the campaign, including Gene McCarthy too. That's why I finished second in numerous states around the country and led in Massachusetts with 5 percent of the vote in!

Ah, interesting.

You should try it one day. Who knows, you might be able to lead Housewive Ellen McCormack to the White House or Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich. That reminds me, I should try that later today.

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Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (R): 356 EV, 53% of the PV (37,761,111)
Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (D): 175 EV, 46% of the PV (33,427,405)

I was surprised myself, not at the fact that I defeated Governor Roosevelt quite comfortably in the Presidential Election of 1932 but at the fact that I caught up with him in the Polls on Election Day Eve!

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Where do you get these scenarios from 1932 and basically any historical ones?

You can find them here: http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/index.htm. Though they are for the original President Forever, which is the better version of the two versions .

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Jim Douglas/Ross Daniels (D): 268 EV, 41% of the PV (51,928,621)
Fred Nelson/Steve Conrad (R): 259 EV, 37% of the PV (46,139,782)
Nathan Bobrick/Barbara Mitchell (I): 11 EV, 21% of the PV (26,468,248)

In this 2008 custom made scenario for the original President Forever, I ran as Billionaire Independent Nathan Bobrick of Washington for the Presidency of the United States. I ran against Governor of California Fred Nelson and Secretary of Defence Jim Douglas of New Jersey. Coming into Election Night, Jim Douglas was expected to win the Presidency of the United States however when all of the results came in, Douglas missed out on winning the Presidency outright by 2 EV's, thanks to me Nathan Bobrick .

As the 2008 Presidential Election was a tie, the Election was forced to the United States Congress and I expected the Congress to elect Jim Douglas 44th President of the United States. I was wrong, they selected me Nathan Bobrick! Thus becoming America's first Independent President.

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Fiddle with the percentages.

How do you do that?

In the player editor.

Candidate editor?  I've never seen that option.

There is no option like that in the original President Forever files. You'll have to do manually. I could do it afterall I have made a lot of scenarios for the original President Forever but nobody has played them apart from myself .

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Ben, I assume you are playing the 1960 scenario on the original President Forever? Then I advise you to send the files to me and I will change the percentages for you. And I said could in a previous post of mine, which you seem to be ignoring .

There is no option like that in the original President Forever files. You'll have to do manually. I could do it afterall I have made a lot of scenarios for the original President Forever but nobody has played them apart from myself .

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Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert H. Humphrey (D): 294 EV, 51.7% of the PV (33,430,812)
Richard M. Nixon/Spiro T. Agnew (R): 244 EV, 48.3% of the PV (31,174,936)

Somehow I managed to win as incumbent President Lyndon B. Johnson against Richard Nixon in the 1968 Presidential Election. Although I primarily focused on my Experience, Leadership and my position on Civil Rights coming into Election Night I was trailing badly and then out of nowhere I win re-election .

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Nelson A. Rockefeller/Howard H. Baker (R): 375 EV, 46.3% of the PV (37,022,158)
Robert F. Kennedy/Frank Church (D): 118 EV, 37.2% of the PV (29,724,823)
George C. Wallace/Curtis E. LeMay (AI): 45 EV, 16.4% of the PV (13,140,380)

Just ran as New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller against Senator Robert F. Kennedy and Governor George C. Wallace in the 1968 Presidential Election. I manage to win quite comfortably over Kennedy, though there were some points during the campaign and on Election Night that Kennedy might have a shot at winning the White House, but I showed Bobby Kennedy.