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« Reply #550 on: April 16, 2006, 03:21:36 pm »
« edited: April 16, 2006, 03:37:35 pm by Gustaf »



Tweaked the populations of Dixie to make it more realistic and focused my campaign more on Dixie:

Dewey: 44%, 266 EVs
Truman: 44%, 170 EVs
Thurmond: 8%, 95 EVs
Wallace: 2%, 0 EVs

(Dewey won the PV by 270 000 votes)

The decisive state was Iowa, which Dewey won by less than 1500 votes, 47.7% v 47.6%

Thurmond's closest win was North Carolina, by around 8%.
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« Reply #551 on: April 16, 2006, 05:22:44 pm »

A rather disappointing game as Anderson (vs. Reagan vs. Carter, 1980).



Sorry, closed down window before taking down results.  I know I got ~20% PV, and Carter won.

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Dem %s:



Ind %s:

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« Reply #552 on: April 16, 2006, 05:54:38 pm »

Best I've done as Anderson is win two states.
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« Reply #553 on: April 17, 2006, 05:57:16 am »

Bush/Cheney vs. Kucinich/Dean Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy





Kucinich
PV: 60%
EV: 515

Bush
PV: 34%
EV: 23
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« Reply #554 on: April 17, 2006, 06:35:47 am »

Powell/Rice vs. Kucinich/Dean





Kucinich
PV: 56%
EV: 498

Powell
PV: 38%
EV: 40
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« Reply #555 on: April 17, 2006, 03:26:06 pm »
« Edited: April 17, 2006, 03:37:09 pm by Old Europe »

1992: Pat Buchanan/Pat Robertson vs. Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey vs. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (me)





Perot (I)
PV: 33%
EV: 265

Brown (D)
PV: 37%
EV: 261

Buchanan (R)
PV: 27%
EV: 12


Congress elected Brown
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« Reply #556 on: April 25, 2006, 08:33:25 pm »



Played as Truman this time. Tried to focus on the North, which went pretty well. Dewey kept gaining on me but towards the end I won the debates, got my ads going and picked up steam. I was hit by 3 or 4 scandals but could spin most of them away. I had solid leads in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois going into election day. New York and California were tossups. I dominated most other states so I was pretty confident. Dewey mostly over-performed, winning CA, NY and MI but that still wasn't enough.

Truman: 47% 358 EVs
Dewey: 41% 135 EVs
Thurmond: 8% 38 EVs
Wallace: 2%
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« Reply #557 on: April 25, 2006, 09:25:46 pm »



Played as Truman again. This time I increased Truman's stamina and charisma but lowered his overall support by 2%, so as to make it closer to the real-life Truman come-back. I also decreased Thurmond's funding and gave Wallace the equal amount, to make things more fair between the two. The campaign mostly went like before, but a lot better for me. Dewey was hit by a scandal that eventually reached level 12. I was damaged a lot too though by scandals.

Truman: 48%, 388 EVs
Dewey: 35%, 105 EVs
Thurmond: 6%, 38 EVs
Wallace: 8%, 0 EVs

Best states:

Thurmond:
Mississippi: 92.9%
Alabama: 86.2%
South Carolina: 79.2%
Louisiana: 60.3%

Truman:
Oklahoma: 66.3%
Texas: 62.5%
New Mexico: 60.5%
Massachusetts: 60.1%

Dewey:
Vermont: 60.1%
Maine: 58.2%
South Dakota: 57.1%
Wisconsin: 56.2%

Wallace:
California: 20.7%
Montana: 15.1%
New YOrk: 14.4%
Virginia: 14%
Florida: 13.7%

Closest state:
Tennessee:
Truman: 35.5%
Thurmond: 34.8%
Dewey: 18.7%
Wallace: 10.8%
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« Reply #558 on: April 26, 2006, 12:02:58 am »

I played as both Truman and Dewey to make things intereresting. Both candidates ran very negative campaigns. They won one debate each. Truman got his ads out first and held Dewey below 50 EVs, but then ran out of money. Dewey then struck back, conquering most of the nation in turn. Truman then clawed his way back slowly, slowly until this was the election day map:



Election night started out well for Dewey with a better than expected result in Indiana and winning both IN and KY.

Next came another strong Dewey result in FLorida followed by Truman's first win, in Georgia. South Carolina went surprisingly strongly for Thurmond, New Hampshire was too close to call. The rest to Dewey. North Carolina was another good pick'up for Dewey, while Ohio was too close to call. Truman fans were happy about the close to 70% result in WV.

CT and DE were two more big Dewey wins, but then came an unexpectedly large Truman win in IL - a big set-back for the Dewey camp. In yet another blow Truman carried Pennsylvania. But there were consolations too. Dewey surprisingly stole Truman's home state Missouri by a whole 5 points. Thurmond broke 80% in Mississippi, again over-performing.

Truman rolled on, picking up Arkansas next.

But the next batch was good news for Dewey. With New York, Colorado and Arizona too close to call, he won Minnesota by a land-slide,  a state thought to lean Truman. He also managed strong showings in the Dakotas, Nebraska and Kansas, all thought to be vulnerable.

Otherwise, things went as expected, Dewey did surprisingly well in Nevada, breaking 50% but the rest of the states were dull.

Dewey supporters took a deeo breath of relief after California opted by a clear margin for their candidate, 7.2%. Oregon and Washington were the awaited big Truman wins.

New Hampshire was now called for Truman, a major shock. But only minutes later Ohio is called for Dewey. The two are now neck to neck. Next Arizona is called for Truman. Dewey will need New York to win an electoral majority. When Colorado is called for Dewey it becomes clear that Truman can no longer win the election. But as New York is finally declared as Truman 46.3%, Dewey 44.3% and Wallace 8.7% the election is over.



Truman: 47%, 263 EVs
Dewey: 45%, 230 EVs
Thurmond: 4%, 38 EVs
Wallace: 3%

Congress elects Truman.
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« Reply #559 on: April 26, 2006, 03:41:18 am »
« Edited: April 26, 2006, 03:46:52 am by Gustaf »



Played as myself. My leadership of 2 is always a bother, but this time things went smoothly. I couldn't afford polling so I had no idea of what my strategy should be.

Lundgren: 49%, 356 EVs
Bush: 47%, 182 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%
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« Reply #560 on: April 26, 2006, 03:33:57 pm »

Gustaf can you play me in 1992?(Perot's party)
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« Reply #561 on: April 29, 2006, 03:25:14 pm »

I'm very proud of myself. I ran a PA Governor 2006 scenario as Russ Diamond, according to Rasmussen's new results and got this:


Russ Diamond (I) [Me]-38% (Winner)

Ed Rendell (D)-38%

Lynn Swan (R)-24%
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« Reply #562 on: April 30, 2006, 09:02:39 am »

2000: McCain (me) vs. Gore





McCain
PV: 52%
EV: 344

Gore
PV: 46%
EV: 194
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« Reply #563 on: April 30, 2006, 11:02:26 am »
« Edited: April 30, 2006, 11:04:50 am by Old Europe »

An odd-looking map for the "The Wedge - 2008" scenario:





Bob Kerrey / Christine Whitman (Progressive)
PV: 38%
EV: 274

Bill Frist / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 31%
EV: 233

Hillary Clinton / Bill Richardson (Democratic)
PV: 29%
EV: 31
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« Reply #564 on: April 30, 2006, 11:31:00 am »

Apparently, a three-party system would indeed produce odd maps.

"The Driver - 2012" scenario:





Christine Whitman / Lincoln Chafee (Progressive)
PV: 39%
EV: 304

Lindsey Graham / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 28%
EV: 170

Barack Obama / John Edwards (Democratic)
PV: 27%
EV: 64

Bob Jones / Tamara Millay (Independent)
PV: 4%
EV: 0
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« Reply #565 on: April 30, 2006, 11:59:33 am »

"Third-Party Battle"


Red = Nader
Blue = Badnarik
Dark Green = Cobb
Light Green = Peroutka





Cobb (me)
PV: 28%
EV: 275

Nader
PV: 26%
EV: 116

Badnarik
PV: 25%
EV: 94

Peroutka
PV: 20%
EV: 53
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« Reply #566 on: May 03, 2006, 10:39:18 am »



I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

Reagan: 44%, 412 EVs
Carter: 38%, 117 EVs
Anderson: 16%, 9 EVs
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« Reply #567 on: May 03, 2006, 11:40:18 am »



Edwards: 55%, 467 EVs
Bush: 40%, 71 EVs
Rest: 2%, 0 EVs

Edwards Best states:

Massachusetts: 70.1%
Vermont: 67.6%
Rhode Island: 67.5%
New York: 64.8%
Pennsylvania: 64.8%

Bush Best states:
Utah: 63.5%
Idaho: 62.7%
Alabama: 60.7%
Nebraska: 57.1%
Alaska: 57.0%

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« Reply #568 on: May 03, 2006, 03:01:15 pm »



This is something I had wanted to do for a long time. I basically pitched my 2 generic candidates (centre-right and centre-left respectively on all issues, same chraracteristics, etc) against each other and made their electoral strategies the exact opposite of what it should be. I wanted to see how well you could do on your opponent's home ground if that was all you focused on.

Smith (R): 49%, 281 EVs
Struan (D): 47%, 257 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%

Best Smith states:

New Jersey: 56.7%
Hawaii: 56.6%
Rhode Island: 55.8%
Illinois: 55.6%
Massachusetts: 55.5%

Best Struan States:

DC: 62.0%
Florida: 55.9%
Ohio: 55.8%
Missouri: 55.5%
Colorado: 54.7%

CLosest states:

Nebraska: Smith by 0.6%
Oklahoma: Struan by 1.1%
South Dakota: Struan by 1.3%
Arkansas: Struan by 1.7%

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« Reply #569 on: May 03, 2006, 03:01:57 pm »

I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

I don't know about Ilikeverin, but this is my third-party strategy that I posted a while back, which works pretty well (I always win at least one state, even as someone like Nader):

1. Pick a few low-population states that all lean in one direction (i.e., they are either all Republican or all Democratic).  The reason for this is that advertising costs are proportional to the population of the state.

2. Start making ads in this sequence:

  a. Leadership - You
  b. Leadership - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean
  c. Experience - You
  d. Experience - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean

If integrity becomes more important than any of these two issues, swap that in for whichever one of the two is less important than integrity.

3. Start researching a scandal on the candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean.

4. Use all available PP and CP to get every single endorsement, especially the ones that give you money.

5. Once all endorsements are received, do nothing but fundraising.

6. Run all ads in as many states as you can while still having some money left the day before election day.

7. Ensure that you have 4 ads the day before election day.  Run all four of them in all 50 states + DC the day before election day.

8. Hope for a good outcome.  I routinely get above 20% of the popular vote.  If you aren't roughly $20 million in the hole on election day, you didn't do it right.
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« Reply #570 on: May 05, 2006, 03:55:20 pm »

I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

I don't know about Ilikeverin, but this is my third-party strategy that I posted a while back, which works pretty well (I always win at least one state, even as someone like Nader):

1. Pick a few low-population states that all lean in one direction (i.e., they are either all Republican or all Democratic).  The reason for this is that advertising costs are proportional to the population of the state.

2. Start making ads in this sequence:

  a. Leadership - You
  b. Leadership - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean
  c. Experience - You
  d. Experience - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean

If integrity becomes more important than any of these two issues, swap that in for whichever one of the two is less important than integrity.

3. Start researching a scandal on the candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean.

4. Use all available PP and CP to get every single endorsement, especially the ones that give you money.

5. Once all endorsements are received, do nothing but fundraising.

6. Run all ads in as many states as you can while still having some money left the day before election day.

7. Ensure that you have 4 ads the day before election day.  Run all four of them in all 50 states + DC the day before election day.

8. Hope for a good outcome.  I routinely get above 20% of the popular vote.  If you aren't roughly $20 million in the hole on election day, you didn't do it right.

Well, that is basically my strategy as well. I guess the problem is that I'm used to trying to win all the time...with Perot I usually campaigned on Leadership/Perot, Integrity/Attacking Clinton and Issue Familiarity/Attacking Bush. I first made a Highly Successfull ad for myself and then varied between attack ads and so on, constantly focusing on my electoral strategy. Usually works pretty well.
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« Reply #571 on: May 05, 2006, 05:39:58 pm »

Well, that is basically my strategy as well. I guess the problem is that I'm used to trying to win all the time...with Perot I usually campaigned on Leadership/Perot, Integrity/Attacking Clinton and Issue Familiarity/Attacking Bush. I first made a Highly Successfull ad for myself and then varied between attack ads and so on, constantly focusing on my electoral strategy. Usually works pretty well.

The main idea with people like Anderson is that you can't win, so you might as well not even try.  I never make any speeches or anything like that.  I just fundraise and blast a select group of states with ads.  That's it.
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« Reply #572 on: May 07, 2006, 08:09:24 am »



Tried more of Gabu's strategy. Didn't work all that well though.

Reagan: 45% 421 EVs
Carter: 36% 113 EVs
Adnerson: 17% 4 EVs
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« Reply #573 on: May 08, 2006, 01:39:45 pm »



Tried more of Gabu's strategy. Didn't work all that well though.

Reagan: 45% 421 EVs
Carter: 36% 113 EVs
Adnerson: 17% 4 EVs

I unfortunately would probably have to see exactly what you're doing to comment further, so I'm not sure what to say other than that it does work for me.
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« Reply #574 on: May 08, 2006, 06:28:16 pm »

Gabu, what happened to our tournament?
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