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« Reply #800 on: July 19, 2007, 09:37:46 am »

I thought this might be an interesting race.

Barack Obama/Bill Richardson

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Rudolph Giuliani/Mark Sanford

+ Lib and Cons.

Things were going ok, Obama led within the margin of error into late-September, then Giuliani pounded me on experience and it hurt (funny, Giuliani went after someone on experience)

The end result.



Obama/Richardson (D)  140 EV  57,770,692  46.4%
Giuliani/Sanford (R)  398 EV  60,916,296  49%
Badnarik (L) 0 EV  4,488,797  3.6%
Peroutka (C) 0 EV  1,223,861  1%


Interesting numbers.
Badnarik got 8.9% in MN, 7.6% in TX and 7.1% in SD plus got over 5% in about 6 other states.

Closest (D) CT - 47.5 - 47.4%
Closest (R) MI - 49.8 - 48.5%
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« Reply #801 on: July 26, 2007, 01:39:13 am »

Well - I ended up deciding to create my own Unity Party where I was a billionaire philanthropist.

I decided to create a primary - to boost numbers and recognition.

The Dems were Clinton/Vilsack and the Reps were McCain/Rice, I selected Chuck Hagel as my running mate.

I spent HUGE sums of money - and focused on CA, NY, ME, and KS. I ended up doing quite well.



Clinton/Vilsack - 279 EV - 48,278,182  39%
McCain/Rice - 259 EV - 47,092,958  38.1%
Polnut/Hagel (Likely 1EV) - 28,262,522  22.9%

My target states FYI
NY - C 39.4% P 34.6% M 26%
ME - C 36.4% P 36.2% M 27.4%
CA - C 35.7% P 34.9% M 29.4%
KS - M 39.4% P 37.2% C 23.4%
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« Reply #802 on: July 26, 2007, 02:29:36 am »

After surprising myself by making it through a crowded primary field (mega Tuesday is a real pain...), I proceeded to totally dominate John Edwards.




Ron Paul/Walter Williams - 59.1% (405 ev's)
John Edwards/Mike Gravel - 40.9% (133 ev's)

Edwards' best state was Delaware, with 53.6%, he only managed 57% in DC. He won AZ by 211 votes.

Paul's best state was Utah, with 80.7%.

You won with Paul? Impressive
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« Reply #803 on: August 12, 2007, 09:19:23 pm »



I was Edwards, in the primaries I was worried because I only led in maybe 6 states going into Iowa, thankfully Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina were three of the six. Somehow winning those three gave me enough momentum to blow the other candidates out of the water and capture the nomination. From there I went on to slowly wittle away at Romney, starting with us being pretty even to a landslide for Edwards.
Obviously Utah was Romney's best State, and Edwards was Vermont (I think, though he also did well in the Carolina)
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« Reply #804 on: August 26, 2007, 02:49:50 am »

West Wing 2006: Vinick vs. Santos vs. Gillette (me)



Arnold Vinick/Ray Sullivan (R) 296 EV 46% (58,011,651)
Matthew V. Santos/Leo McGarry (D) 242 EV 41% (51,604,000)
Seth Gillette/Jim Jerich (I) 0 EV 12% (15,110,530)

I managed to finish second  in two states as Senator Seth Gillette they were:

North Dakota:

Arnold Vinick 49.1% (140,859)
Seth Gillette 26.0% (71,690)
Matt Santos 24.8% (71,181)

District of Columbia:

Matt Santos 61.3% (154,750)
Seth Gillette 22.1% (55,784)
Arnold Vinick 16.5% (41,587)
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« Reply #805 on: September 08, 2007, 06:04:00 am »

1980: Reagan/Bush vs. Carter/Mondale (me) vs. Clark/Koch



James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale (D) 361 EV 53% (53,897,716)
Ronald W. Reagan/George H. W. Bush (R) 177 EV 42% (42,797,560)
Ed Clark/David Koch (L) 0 EV 3% (3,128,897)

I ran numerous attack adds against the Reagan campaign on Leadership and Experience. The adds seemed to work. I went from trailing in the North and Midwest to be well out in front. I never though I could win as Jimmy Carter in the 1980 campaign, I proved myself wrong Smiley
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« Reply #806 on: September 08, 2007, 01:08:10 pm »

I haven't been into politics for a while.  But I played this game for the first time today.



Giuliani/Romney - 51%...444 EV
Clinton/Obama - 41%...94 EV
Paul - 3%
Clymer - 3%

So I believe both third parties hurt the Republicans.  Without them...it would look like this...



Giuliani - 511
Clinton - 27
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« Reply #807 on: September 08, 2007, 01:47:42 pm »

I think someone should run forum members against each others again.
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« Reply #808 on: September 08, 2007, 01:58:27 pm »

I think someone should run forum members against each others again.
why?
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« Reply #809 on: September 08, 2007, 02:04:35 pm »

It was cool to see who would win in races.
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« Reply #810 on: September 12, 2007, 04:46:00 pm »

1992: George H.W. Bush vs. Bill Clinton (me) vs. Ross Perot


George H.W. Bush/J. Danforth Quayle (R) 270 EV 38% (41,994,651)
William J. Clinton/Albert A. Gore Jnr (D) 268 EV 43% (47,970,416)
H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I) 0 EV 17% (19,725,278)

I did what I usually do whilst playing President Forever. I ran as Bill Clinton and played all my commericials with about 2 weeks to go. I came within two electoral college votes from the Presidency. Like the RL election of 2000, the Democrats won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College vote.
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« Reply #811 on: September 14, 2007, 04:43:43 am »

I ran as Governor Mario Coumo in the Democratic primaries against the RL life Democratic field including Senator Ted Kennedy. At the start of the campaign it was a Kennedy-Coumo tie until I unleashed attacks on his integrity, reminding voters about Chappaqudick. I easily cruised to the Democratic nomination and selected Senator Al Gore to be my running mate.

Whilst on the Republican side, I left Vice President George H. W. Bush out of the race and kept the RL Republican field including Senator Howard Baker. It was a 4 way tie between Dole-Kemp-Baker-Robertson until Baker and Dole endorsed Robertson. The race was then left with Congressman Kemp and Reverand Robertson, I thought Kemp was going to win, until he endorses Robertson as well! For Vice President, Reverand Robertson selected Senator Jesse Helms of all people.

The General Election campaign was unusually close between myself and Robertson. That was all put to rest when I unleashed numerous attack add campaigns on Robertson's experience and his position on School Prayer. I also made numerous adds about my leadership and experience.


Mario Coumo/Al Gore (D) 390 EV 53.8% (63,786,377)
Pat Robertson/Jesse Helms (R) 39.5% (46,787,361)
Lenora Fulani/Fred Newman (NA) 0 EV 6.7% (7,905,712)
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« Reply #812 on: September 20, 2007, 11:53:54 pm »

United States Senate 2006



Map Key:

Republican
Democratic
Bernie Sanders Independent
Note: Joe Lieberman's Connecticut for Lieberman is coloured red because he is caucusing with the Democratic party.

I ran as the Republicans led by Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas in the 2006 Senatorial Elections. I managed to pull off a surprising win by managing to hold onto seats in Montana, Missouri and Rhode Island. I also managed to win Bob Menendez's seat in New Jersey. Some of the states were really close, when I mean close they were really close. Here are the results in those seats.

Virginia:
Jim Webb (D) 50.0% (1,367,819)
George Allen (R) 50.0% (1,365,977)

Missouri:
Jim Talent (R) 50.6% (1,097,587)
Claire McCaskill (D) 49.3% (1,068,075)

Montana:
Conrad Burns (R) 50.7% (175,260)
Jon Tester (D) 49.2% (169,889)

New Jersey:
Thomas Kean Jnr (R) 50.7% (1,660,858)
Bob Menendez (D) 49.2% (1,610,800)
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« Reply #813 on: September 27, 2007, 02:16:28 am »

American Government Simulation 2004



Nation Hahn/Jim Dallas (D): 372 EV, 46% (57,659,452)
Adam Yoshida/Colin Carpenter (R): 166 EV, 40% (49,977,719)
Leonard Hobbes/Max Cherry (F): 0 EV, 13% (16,640,619)

Like most of my Presidential campaigns, I didn't run any commericials until the final two weeks of the Presidential campaign. Prior to the Hahn/Dallas campaign running numerous attack adds on President Yoshida, the Yoshida/Carpener campaign were predicted to win with more than 411 Electoral College votes.
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« Reply #814 on: October 06, 2007, 01:55:37 am »

2008: Fictional Presidents

I ran as Independence Day President Thomas Whitmore (Bill Pullman) against Dave President Dave Kovic (Kevin Kline). It was a pretty close election from when the campaign began to it's finish in early November. I ran commericals attacking Kovic's Leadership. whilst balancing it out with commercials boasting my leadership when the Aliens attacked in July 1996. On Election Day the polls were too close to call with Kovic leading by 0.4% over Whitmore. This is how the networks were predicting the Electoral College map:



Dave Kovic/Gary Nance (D): 246 EV
Thomas Whitmore/Dave Levinson (R): 158 EV
Undecided (U): 134 EV

Many of the networks were predicting that Kovic would win California, Texas, Lousiania and Florida by narrow margins over Whitmore. Whitmore was predicted to win Colorado.

However when it came to Election Night Thomas Whitmore defeated Dave Kovic for the Presidency of the United States. Narrowly in the PV count (50.3 - 49.7%), but easily won in the Electoral College count (319 - 219). Here's the Electoral College map.



Thomas Whitmore/David Levinson (R): 319 EV, 50.3% (61,687,825)
Dave Kovic/Gary Nance (D): 219 EV, 49.7% (60,975,614)
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« Reply #815 on: October 06, 2007, 02:47:19 am »

This was a BIZARRE one.

I ran what I thought were pretty strong tickets on both sides.

Clinton/Bayh vs Giuliani/Sanford vs Peroutka there as an experiment.

I started behind Giuliani by about 2% - we split the debates (incl. a tie) - I got hammered by scandal heading into 3 weeks to go. I recovered and started thumping Giuliani on experience and this was the map heading into election night.



The day before I put up a '7' strength leadership ad nationwide.

This was the result!



Clinton/Bayh - 487 EV - 70,739,259 - 57.1%
Giuliani/Sanford - 51  EV - 51,513,769 - 41.6%
Peroutka - 1,529,079 - 1.2%

Peroutka did likely cost Giuliani - MS, GA, MO, KY - only 40 EV.

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« Reply #816 on: October 06, 2007, 02:50:20 am »

That was very bizarre scenario Polnut. A question I would like to ask President Forever + Primary players. Do Third Party's PV's go up by 3-6% on Election Day? Because this has happened to me many times. It even cost me the election running as a moderate Mike Huckabee.
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« Reply #817 on: October 10, 2007, 03:01:32 am »
« Edited: October 10, 2007, 03:03:43 am by Fmr Gov. Polnut »

Right - I decided a one-on-one match was a good bet.

Me/Bayh
vs
Giuliani/Sanford.


Final results.



Polnut/Bayh- 317 EV - 67,652,137 - 54.9%
Giuliani/Sanford - 221 EV - 55,576,308 - 45.1%

Biggest blowout -
MA - P - 71.3%
 
Closest -
Wisconsin - Giuliani wins by 551 votes.

* I think a re-count  option would be a good idea - instantly recount any state with a margin of less tha 0.1% Plus players could request recounts for anything below 0.3%
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« Reply #818 on: October 10, 2007, 05:21:30 pm »

I just ran as Badnarik in the P4Ever Demo. I also ran "symbolically" as Bayh, Warner, Gore, Frist and Allen so that way they could endorse Badnarik (on the very first day). This gave me a tremendous boost. Here's the map:



Now, these weren't the final results but I just gave the swing states to the candidate that was leading.

Clinton 258 29.3%
Giuliani 265 34.6%
Badnarik (me) 15 15.5% !!!
Undecided Voters 20.6%
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« Reply #819 on: October 10, 2007, 05:33:08 pm »

I was coming in close 2nd in most of the Southern states and a mix of strong 2nd or weak 2nd in the Mountain West. I did badly in the New England states (obviously, the Libertarians aren't on the NH ballot so that's out) but strangely well in the Midwest states. The Pacific was a mix. Anyways, this 15.5% (which might've been higher if I'd finished the game) has been my best result so far. Before I was happy if I got more than 2% with Badnarik but when I started playing as others to endorse Badnarik, the game totally changed. Oh, I also forgot to mention that Clinton was ahead in New Mexico.
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« Reply #820 on: October 11, 2007, 04:26:22 am »

American Government Simulation 2004



Nation Hahn/Jim Dallas (D): 372 EV, 46% (57,659,452)
Adam Yoshida/Colin Carpenter (R): 166 EV, 40% (49,977,719)
Leonard Hobbes/Max Cherry (F): 0 EV, 13% (16,640,619)

Like most of my Presidential campaigns, I didn't run any commericials until the final two weeks of the Presidential campaign. Prior to the Hahn/Dallas campaign running numerous attack adds on President Yoshida, the Yoshida/Carpener campaign were predicted to win with more than 411 Electoral College votes.

How do you know about the AGS?
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« Reply #821 on: October 11, 2007, 01:41:27 pm »

Playing as Clinton in '92...ran a front porch campaign, using most of my CP's to get endorsements, buy crusaders, get research, and spin the news.

Bush had the distinct advantage throughout most of the campaign (having more than 270 EV's in the bag most of the time), but his campaign collapsed utterly in the last week, having more than -300 mo' by election day.  This was partially due to an ad blitz on my part...but the collapse was everywhere in the country, not just the places I ran ads.  Bush had some scandals, but nothing ridiculous (nothing more than -6)...he just simply collapsed, resulting in a net 10-point (and 250+ EV) swing in the polls in my favor, which only expanded by election day.

Net Result:


All the swing (or heck, even lean) states but Idaho swung heavily against Bush, giving Clinton victories in Connecticut, Louisiana, Idaho, and Indiana, among others.  It was also enough to allow Perot to squeak out a victory in Nevada, a state in which he had never led in polls.  (He'd led in Maine for a time earlier before Clinton took the lead).

Final Result:
Clinton:  51,665,149 (47%):  412 EV   [Last Poll: 41%, 363 EV]
Bush: 33,386,486 (30%): 122 EV        [Last Poll: 27%, 139 EV]
Perot: 24,544,356 (22%): 4 EV           [Last Poll: 18%, 0 EV]
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« Reply #822 on: October 11, 2007, 02:17:25 pm »

1992 again, as Clinton, in a direct attempt to make Perot win.

Some good headlines....

"Bush comfortably ahead of Perot in polls"  (Clinton, in third, not even mentioned)
A week before the campaign, MD poll:  Bush 26%, Clinton 26%, Perot 5%, Undecided 38%

Day before the election, polls were showing Bush at 39, Clinton at 24, Perot at 25...but with the EV situation much closer (Bush at 290 but falling, Perot at 164 & rising, Clinton at 31)

It wasn't enough in the end, though:


Bush: 44%, 303 EV
Perot: 28%, 196 EV
Clinton: 27%, 39 EV

Closest States:
Connecticut:  Clinton over Perot by .8%  (8 EV)
Maryland: Bush over Clinton by 1.2% (10 EV)

Despite the apparent closeness of WI & MI (which would have deprived Bush of an EV majority) before the election, Bush won both states (& all other states he won, for that matter), by 8 points...the closeness of the EV race was, unfortunately, deceptive.
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« Reply #823 on: October 31, 2007, 12:56:50 am »

Me against Grumpy Fred.

My campaign was essentially a tireless thumping on his experience.



Me/Warner - 404 EV - 72,450,520 - 56.7%
Thompson/(Jeb) Bush - 134 - 55,432,685 - 43.3%

All states coloured light were decided by a margin of less than 1%.

The closest was Kentucky - which I won by 76 votes out of more than 1.8 million.
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« Reply #824 on: October 31, 2007, 01:03:28 am »

Hey Polnut in President Forever are you a Governor, Senator, Congressman or maverack businessman? I do remember in P4E your "from" Pennsylvania.

FYI: In President Forever, I'm a liberal Republican Senator from Maine.
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