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« Reply #850 on: December 15, 2007, 05:36:08 pm »

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:



Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%
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« Reply #851 on: December 15, 2007, 06:28:16 pm »

For some reason, Paul always seems to break out and go crazy.  I think it's because one of the new programmers is a Paul supporter himself.  I'm trying to tinker around with this to fix it, and also to make Huckabee's sudden rise much more likely.
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« Reply #852 on: December 15, 2007, 06:36:32 pm »

Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is why PF+P often gives crazy results, very high numbers for third party candidates that would never achieve such electoral success. This was bad in the original, where third parties often added up to around 4% or 5% of the vote, but it seems to have gotten worse in the new game.
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« Reply #853 on: December 15, 2007, 06:39:36 pm »

Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is why PF+P often gives crazy results, very high numbers for third party candidates that would never achieve such electoral success. This was bad in the original, where third parties often added up to around 4% or 5% of the vote, but it seems to have gotten worse in the new game.

Peroutka pulled something like 25% in Illinois and Utah. Paul came in 3rd in DC, with 7% of the vote.
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« Reply #854 on: December 15, 2007, 10:36:38 pm »

I played Bill Richardson (D) vs. Rudy (R).  I got Richardson through a primary vs. Edwards (I turned off Hillary and Obama).  He started off WAY down, but I put all of his initial resources into Iowa, NH, and Florida,  - which he won - turning it into a competitive race that wasn't clinched until June.  Rudy was ahead in the general the whole time, but I carefully targeted ads and had 2 Rudy scandals that I released a week out.  This is the closest race I've gotten in P4E



Richardson 56,837,505 48% / 288 EV
Guiliani 56,602,851 47.8% / 250 EV
Badnarik 2,828,031 2.4% (6.8% in Louisiana)
Peroutka 2,033,978 1.7% (10.7% in Alaska)
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« Reply #855 on: December 15, 2007, 10:41:45 pm »

Funnily, what is odd is that I feel I experience more realistic results with the 08 edition. With 04 I end up winning Kansas and Mississippi all the time by 20-40% margins, but lose NJ or CA by 10%.

The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.
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« Reply #856 on: December 15, 2007, 10:51:04 pm »

The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.

Are you serious? In the one game I have played (see above), they got 16.4% combined. It was like the Perot factor all over again.
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« Reply #857 on: December 16, 2007, 01:40:45 am »

The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.

Are you serious? In the one game I have played (see above), they got 16.4% combined. It was like the Perot factor all over again.

Yeah.

The only time I've EVER had a third party get over 7% is when I play as a Unity candidate, I usually get between 25 - 29%, and win a few states. But a Badnarik or Peroutka would rarely get above 3%.
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« Reply #858 on: December 16, 2007, 01:45:30 am »

I played Bill Richardson (D) vs. Rudy (R).  I got Richardson through a primary vs. Edwards (I turned off Hillary and Obama).  He started off WAY down, but I put all of his initial resources into Iowa, NH, and Florida,  - which he won - turning it into a competitive race that wasn't clinched until June.  Rudy was ahead in the general the whole time, but I carefully targeted ads and had 2 Rudy scandals that I released a week out.  This is the closest race I've gotten in P4E



Richardson 56,837,505 48% / 288 EV
Guiliani 56,602,851 47.8% / 250 EV
Badnarik 2,828,031 2.4% (6.8% in Louisiana)
Peroutka 2,033,978 1.7% (10.7% in Alaska)

Wait, you actually played as a Democrat?

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« Reply #859 on: December 16, 2007, 09:59:07 am »

Wait, you actually played as a Democrat?

...Did you take a shower afterwards? Tongue

Sometimes its fun to play the bad guy Smiley  The Dem primary in P4E is more fun since its not set up as winner take all
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« Reply #860 on: December 19, 2007, 03:03:51 am »

I just the Intellectual President 2008 scenario. I turned off the Republican and Democrats and played as Noam Chomsky (Green) against Pat Buchanan (Independent). As per usual I didn't run my commercials until the last 2 weeks of the campaign. Just when I started to gain momentum, a level 13 scandal hit the campaign and lasted until Election Day. On Election Day this is how they predicted it would turn out like:



Pat Buchanan/Lyndon LaRouche (I): 225 EV, 47% of the PV (-2)
Noam Chomsky/Howard Zinn (G): 137 EV, 44% of the PV (+1)
Undecided (U): 176 EV, 6% of the PV (+1)

The Tossup states on Election Day were the following:

  • Washington - 11 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Oregon - 7 Electoral Vote (Lean Chomsky)
  • Minnesota - 10 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Michigan - 17 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Pennsylvania - 21 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • West Virginia - 5 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • New Hampshire - 4 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Connecticut - 7 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • New Mexico - 5 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)

  • Arizona - 10 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Illinois - 21 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Georgia - 15 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Florida - 27 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Louisiana - 9 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Maine - 4 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Delaware - 3 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)

    Like many had predicted, Pat J. Buchanan was elected 44th President of the United States defeating Noam Chomsky. Like the 2000 Presidential Election, Chomsky won the Popular Vote 50-49% but lost in the Electoral College. It always happens to me Sad. Anywho here's the results:



    Pat J. Buchanan/Lyndon LaRouche (I): 286 EV, 49% of the PV (72,060,201)
    Noam Chomsky/Howard Zinn (G): 252 EV, 50% of the PV (74,708,030)
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« Reply #861 on: December 20, 2007, 12:46:47 am »

Whoa...LaRouche? Vice President? RUN FOR THE HILLS!
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« Reply #862 on: December 20, 2007, 03:52:29 am »

OK, I ran as my trusty billionaire NYker.

This was the last set of polls before election night.

Obama/Bayh - 35.2% 217 EV
Giuliani/Owens - 36.8% 230 EV
Polnut/Hagel (Unity) - 18.5% 0 EV
Undecided - 9.5% - 91 EV

Final result.

Well... Sorry in advance. I caused some problems, lol.



Obama/Bayh - 249 EV 43,146,198 - 34.9%
Giuliani/Owens - 289 EV 47,241,985 - 38.2%
Polnut/Hagel - 1 EV 33,360,118 - 27%

Some interesting states.
I beat Obama in (among others) TX, OK, MT, The Dakotas, AK
I beat Giuliani in NY, RI and DC

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« Reply #863 on: December 20, 2007, 02:53:12 pm »



Obama/Blanco: 527 EVs, 61%
Huckabee/Martinez: 11 EVs, 38%

the congressional districts are guesses, but Huckabee was only up by 2% in Nebraska.
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« Reply #864 on: December 20, 2007, 03:36:34 pm »



Obama/Blanco: 527 EVs, 61%
Huckabee/Martinez: 11 EVs, 38%

the congressional districts are guesses, but Huckabee was only up by 2% in Nebraska.

Speaking of Huckabee vs. Obama in President Forever, once I won as Obama with about 500 odd EV's and 71% of the popular vote. Huckaboomed ended up with about 30 EV's or less an 29% of the popular vote. Quite enjoyable really Smiley.
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« Reply #865 on: December 20, 2007, 07:47:07 pm »

Not per say P4E+P, but a cheap futuristic 3096 US Prime Minister election, I played as NE Independence.



Socialist Party 32% (54,465,751); 58 seats
New Democratic Party 32% (53,807,423); 59 seats [liberal]
Conservative Party 22% (36,961,978); 27 seats
New England Independence 12% (20,864,680); 27 seats [New England secessionist centre-left]
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« Reply #866 on: December 21, 2007, 03:10:35 pm »



Powell/Elrich: 535 EV, 61% PV
H. Clinton/Warner: 3 EV, 38% PV
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« Reply #867 on: December 21, 2007, 03:24:51 pm »

I lost every state to Obama by over 80%, except Utah, which I lost by only over 70%.
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« Reply #868 on: December 21, 2007, 03:56:31 pm »



Manchurian Candidate: 1956 Scenario; third parties off.

Iselin: 81 EV; 41% PV
Lyman (me): 450 EV; 58% PV

I stopped the attempted communist sabotage of the national government singlehandedly, by defeating Iselin in a landslide.

Delaware, Maine, Arizona, Alabama, Kansas, Idaho were all within two percent.
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« Reply #869 on: December 22, 2007, 12:20:48 pm »

2000: Lamar Alexander vs. Al Gore



Alexander 290 EV
53,281,214 / 45.3% PV

Gore 248 EV
56,510,026 / 48% PV

Nader 0EV
7,926,545 / 6.7% PV

I had to pump Alexander's stats just a bit because the default character has all-centrist positions and gets 0% in every state in the primary. (i.e. lazy coders)

I took Bush, McCain, and Dole out of the primary and ran him vs. Forbes, Kasich, Quayle, and Bauer.

LA won the Electoral Vote, but lost the popular vote by almost 3%  Lots of states went for LA by very small margins, and Nader's vote was high - highest was 18.6% in MT.
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« Reply #870 on: December 22, 2007, 01:04:51 pm »

For some reason, Paul always seems to break out and go crazy.  I think it's because one of the new programmers is a Paul supporter himself.  I'm trying to tinker around with this to fix it, and also to make Huckabee's sudden rise much more likely.

Give Focus on the Family (or create a new endorser) a big momentum bonus that triggers in late November to mimick the Huckaboom.
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« Reply #871 on: December 22, 2007, 04:50:38 pm »

2000: Lamar Alexander vs. Al Gore



Alexander 290 EV
53,281,214 / 45.3% PV

Gore 248 EV
56,510,026 / 48% PV

Nader 0EV
7,926,545 / 6.7% PV

I had to pump Alexander's stats just a bit because the default character has all-centrist positions and gets 0% in every state in the primary. (i.e. lazy coders)

I took Bush, McCain, and Dole out of the primary and ran him vs. Forbes, Kasich, Quayle, and Bauer.

LA won the Electoral Vote, but lost the popular vote by almost 3%  Lots of states went for LA by very small margins, and Nader's vote was high - highest was 18.6% in MT.

That's President Forever + Primaries for you, weird results. I've had many of games turn out like that before.
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« Reply #872 on: December 28, 2007, 12:10:20 am »

I ran as Badnarik and also ran as Bayh, Gore, Warner, Frist and Allen in the primaries. With exactly a year left, all 5 dropped out and endorsed Badnarik (of course I had them all be with the same platform: social liberal/fiscal conservative with many moderate planks on both sides). All candidates were winning their states before they dropped out. This is still with the demo (yoohoo, I'm finally getting the real game now!)

Final Results (before the game ended)

Giuliani 33.7%/260 EV
Clinton 26.8%/110 EV
Badnarik 17.4%/96 EV
Undecided 22.2%/72 EV

Add up the EV where the states are too close to call:

Giuliani 282 EV
Clinton 160 EV
Badnarik 96 EV

I won SD, TX, TN, VA, WV, NC, AL & MS. Here's the map:



I almost came close to winning 100 EV.



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« Reply #873 on: December 28, 2007, 12:13:25 am »

What's with CA?
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« Reply #874 on: December 28, 2007, 12:14:15 am »

I ran as Badnarik and also ran as Bayh, Gore, Warner, Frist and Allen in the primaries. With exactly a year left, all 5 dropped out and endorsed Badnarik (of course I had them all be with the same platform: social liberal/fiscal conservative with many moderate planks on both sides). All candidates were winning their states before they dropped out. This is still with the demo (yoohoo, I'm finally getting the real game now!)

Final Results (before the game ended)

Giuliani 33.7%/260 EV
Clinton 26.8%/110 EV
Badnarik 17.4%/96 EV
Undecided 22.2%/72 EV

Add up the EV where the states are too close to call:

Giuliani 282 EV
Clinton 160 EV
Badnarik 96 EV

I won SD, TX, TN, VA, WV, NC, AL & MS. Here's the map:



I almost came close to winning 100 EV.


How the HELL did that happen? DId you give Badnairk $999,000,000 dollars?
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