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« Reply #1275 on: September 02, 2008, 07:40:56 PM »

Update- This game is weird. Bayrou and Le Pen are now tied with 11-10% each about.

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« Reply #1276 on: September 02, 2008, 07:45:36 PM »

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« Reply #1277 on: September 02, 2008, 08:02:02 PM »



Chirac/Fillon (R) 46,088,445 39.4% (327EV)
Fabius/Royal (D) 39,119,624 33.5% (211EV)
Bayrou/Morin (Centrist) 16,138,746 13.8%
Le Pen/Le Pen (C) 15,509,573 13.3%
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« Reply #1278 on: September 02, 2008, 11:46:01 PM »

Massachusetts?

Second round time. Cheesy
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« Reply #1279 on: September 03, 2008, 01:02:21 AM »

That looks like a really cool scenario Hashemite. If you have enough time you should make a France 1995 scenario for the US Presidential Election of 1996 (I believe there is a scenario for it, not sure where exactly on the 80soft forum it is though). Is there a chance that you might be able to send it to me and to the others that own President Forever + Primaries? I know I would Wink.
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« Reply #1280 on: September 03, 2008, 08:32:00 PM »

I have a question. With a French what-if, how would it work? A candidate needs to get an absolute majority of both the Electoral Votes and popular vote in the first round, or else the candidate with the most popular votes and Electoral Votes in the second round wins, for example?
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« Reply #1281 on: September 04, 2008, 07:06:09 AM »

I have a question. With a French what-if, how would it work? A candidate needs to get an absolute majority of both the Electoral Votes and popular vote in the first round, or else the candidate with the most popular votes and Electoral Votes in the second round wins, for example?

Not at all. My scenario just uses French candidates in an American electoral system.
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« Reply #1282 on: September 04, 2008, 10:19:30 PM »

     I got PF back on my computer! In celebration, I ran through 1992 as Bush, running the most phenomenally negative campaign the world had ever seen. As an ultimate act of humiliation, I won Arkansas & Tennessee.



Bush/Quayle, 42%, 385 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 36%, 142 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 20%, 11 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 1%, 0 EVs
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« Reply #1283 on: September 05, 2008, 02:49:10 AM »
« Edited: September 06, 2008, 08:32:11 PM by PiT (The Physicist) »

     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.



Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.
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« Reply #1284 on: September 05, 2008, 03:42:47 PM »

     I got PF back on my computer! In celebration, I ran through 1992 as Bush, running the most phenomenally negative campaign the world had ever seen. As an ultimate act of humiliation, I won Arkansas & Tennessee.



Bush/Quayle, 42%, 385 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 36%, 142 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 20%, 11 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 1%, 0 EVs

How did Perot win WA out of all places?
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« Reply #1285 on: September 05, 2008, 09:27:03 PM »

     I got PF back on my computer! In celebration, I ran through 1992 as Bush, running the most phenomenally negative campaign the world had ever seen. As an ultimate act of humiliation, I won Arkansas & Tennessee.



Bush/Quayle, 42%, 385 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 36%, 142 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 20%, 11 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 1%, 0 EVs

How did Perot win WA out of all places?

     I aggressively attacked Clinton in every close state. There were a bunch of states where he placed third behind Bush & Perot. The final result in Washington was something like:

Perot: 35%
Bush: 33%
Clinton: 32%

     It's also worth noting that Kansas was a swing state between Perot & Bush for the entire last month. I stopped campaigning there because I thought it would be interesting to have Perot win at least one state. The final result there was:

Bush: 36%
Perot: 35%
Clinton: 28%
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« Reply #1286 on: September 05, 2008, 11:35:28 PM »
« Edited: September 05, 2008, 11:38:06 PM by PiT (The Physicist) »

     I decided to go ahead & try one of the most impossible elections: 1920. I ran admirably, but it took me about four weeks to research one scandal (WTF?), destroying my chances at winning. I ended up losing narrowly while winning the popular vote.



Harding/Coolidge, 41%, 295 EVs
Cox/Roosevelt, 46%, 236 EVs
Debs/Seidel, 7%, 0 EVs
Christensen/????, 3%, 0 EVs
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« Reply #1287 on: September 06, 2008, 01:43:06 AM »

     I decided to take a break from running impossible races & ran in 2004 as an independent candidate I created. Wink



Djibril/Eiliger, 35%, 265 EVs
Bush/Cheney, 31%, 146 EVs
Kerry/Edwards, 32%, 127 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna, 0%, 0 EVs

     Congress elected Bush president. Makes sense. After all, why would they elect the guy who came within spitting distance of the White House? Roll Eyes

     Anyway, the map isn't a joke; almost every state was decided by a razor-thin margin. California was decided by under 7,000 votes (!!!).
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« Reply #1288 on: September 06, 2008, 01:45:34 AM »

     I decided to take a break from running impossible races & ran in 2004 as an independent candidate I created. Wink



Djibril/Eiliger, 35%, 265 EVs
Bush/Cheney, 31%, 146 EVs
Kerry/Edwards, 32%, 127 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna, 0%, 0 EVs

     Congress elected Bush president. Makes sense. After all, why would they elect the guy who came within spitting distance of the White House? Roll Eyes

     Anyway, the map isn't a joke; almost every state was decided by a razor-thin margin. California was decided by under 7,000 votes (!!!).

What were the characteristics and strategy of your candidate?
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« Reply #1289 on: September 06, 2008, 01:53:49 AM »
« Edited: September 07, 2008, 05:07:08 AM by PiT (The Physicist) »

     I decided to take a break from running impossible races & ran in 2004 as an independent candidate I created. Wink



Djibril/Eiliger, 35%, 265 EVs
Bush/Cheney, 31%, 146 EVs
Kerry/Edwards, 32%, 127 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna, 0%, 0 EVs

     Congress elected Bush president. Makes sense. After all, why would they elect the guy who came within spitting distance of the White House? Roll Eyes

     Anyway, the map isn't a joke; almost every state was decided by a razor-thin margin. California was decided by under 7,000 votes (!!!).

What were the characteristics and strategy of your candidate?

     I gave him my own positions. I was lazy Tongue & wanted to see an interesting race, so I gave him 4 & 5 in every stat, along with $2 billion to blanket the nation with ads (I could've waited until the end to completely saturate the nation, though I don't do that because I don't find it to be a fun way to play). Tongue Also, I cycled between ads promoting myself, attacking Bush, & attacking Kerry. Used extra CP to get endorsements & then recruit foot soldiers. Basically my typical PF strategy (well, except saturating the nation with ads, of course).
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« Reply #1290 on: September 06, 2008, 06:45:55 AM »

but it took me about four weeks to research one scandal (WTF?),

That's nothing. It took me the whole election once to research a scandal on Fabius in my French scenario.
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« Reply #1291 on: September 06, 2008, 11:31:42 AM »

     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.



Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.
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« Reply #1292 on: September 06, 2008, 12:09:32 PM »

     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.



Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. Smiley
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« Reply #1293 on: September 06, 2008, 12:11:35 PM »


Roosevelt: 64% PV, 531 EV
Dewey: 36% PV, 0 EV
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« Reply #1294 on: September 06, 2008, 12:54:53 PM »

Why the need to post a million 538-EV sweep maps?

Unless you win 99% of the vote at the same time, like Sarkozy Tongue
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« Reply #1295 on: September 06, 2008, 03:06:52 PM »

Can someone please send me the original PFE?
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« Reply #1296 on: September 06, 2008, 03:41:57 PM »

     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.



Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. Smiley

     I looked in the electoraltrends.p4e file after the election. Fremont was given a base of 30% there; low, but much higher than any other state in the South. I changed it to the more reasonable value of 0.
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« Reply #1297 on: September 06, 2008, 04:18:29 PM »

     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.



Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. Smiley

     I looked in the electoraltrends.p4e file after the election. Fremont was given a base of 30% there; low, but much higher than any other state in the South. I changed it to the more reasonable value of 0.

Much better. But since it's the legislature, also give Buchanan 100.
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« Reply #1298 on: September 06, 2008, 04:30:00 PM »

     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.



Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. Smiley

     I looked in the electoraltrends.p4e file after the election. Fremont was given a base of 30% there; low, but much higher than any other state in the South. I changed it to the more reasonable value of 0.

Much better. But since it's the legislature, also give Buchanan 100.

     Done. Anyway, does anyone have an election that they want me to run?
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« Reply #1299 on: September 06, 2008, 04:34:32 PM »

What elections do you have?
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