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« Reply #1400 on: October 02, 2008, 05:45:40 am »

     Ran in 1952 as Adlai Stevenson. At one point, I had three scandals on Eisenhower at once. I ended up winning without too much difficulty. Maine was decided by 183 votes (!).



Stevenson/Sparkman, 57%, 514 EVs
Eisenhower/Nixon, 39%, 17 EVs
Faubus/Crommelin, 2%, 0 EVs
Decker/Munn, 0%, 0 EVs
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« Reply #1401 on: October 02, 2008, 07:13:48 pm »

     I always play with dynamism off. I actually might try turning it on sometime & watching the carnage. Wink

Same here.
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« Reply #1402 on: October 03, 2008, 03:10:01 am »

     I always play with dynamism off. I actually might try turning it on sometime & watching the carnage. Wink

Same here.

     I think I might have to hold back to give the computer a chance. Tongue
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« Reply #1403 on: October 03, 2008, 03:20:51 pm »

Tried with dynanism on:

Roosevelt: 85% PV, 531 EV
Hoover: 15% PV, 0 EV
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« Reply #1404 on: October 03, 2008, 03:59:53 pm »

Stop it, dammit.
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« Reply #1405 on: October 03, 2008, 06:19:13 pm »

A wierd 1972 result:

McGovern: 63% PV, 405 EV
Nixon: 37% PV, 133 EV
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« Reply #1406 on: October 03, 2008, 06:42:57 pm »

wtf South Dakota wtf
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« Reply #1407 on: October 03, 2008, 06:57:38 pm »

wtf South Dakota wtf

I'm sure that's what the McGovern campaign was asking themselves when the results came in on Election Night 1972. Speaking of weird results for 1972 on President Forever, something similar occurred to me a while back. And I can show you too.



Richard Nixon (R): 396 EV, 52% of the PV (52,935,207)
George McGovern (D): 142 EV, 45% of the PV (45,818,823)
John Hospers (L): 0 EV, 1% of the PV (1,356,238)

I ran as John Hospers, spacebared the entire campaign and didn't run any commercials and yet I still manage to win nearly 1.5 million votes in the 1972 Presidential Election. The funny thing about this election was that Nixon won the District of Columbia, defeating McGovern 57-40-2 and McGovern won Washington state with eighty-five percent of the vote. Talk about weird.
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« Reply #1408 on: October 03, 2008, 07:02:18 pm »

     Are you playing PF+P? If so, that makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #1409 on: October 03, 2008, 07:04:17 pm »

     Are you playing PF+P? If so, that makes perfect sense.

Those results, funnily enough occurred on the original President Forever. Yes you heard me correctly the original President Forever. I think the creator of the scenario stuffed up the percentages for Washington and the District of Columbia though, as at the start of the 1972 campaign Washington is safe McGovern and the District of Columbia is usually a tossup.
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« Reply #1410 on: October 03, 2008, 07:08:20 pm »

     I once played a 1932 scenario where Alabama was lean Hoover. When I get home, I'll download the scenario and dig around through the guts of the data.
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« Reply #1411 on: October 03, 2008, 07:16:47 pm »

     I once played a 1932 scenario where Alabama was lean Hoover. When I get home, I'll download the scenario and dig around through the guts of the data.

Something similar happened to me as well, though it wasn't 1932 but rather 1908 Taft vs. Bryan. I believe in that scenario Taft sweeped the South and Bryan took out most of New England. The funny thing as well was that people on the 80soft forum believed that it was a great scenario. Silly supposed political geeks that believe that every result in past Presidential Elections was similar to 2004.
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« Reply #1412 on: October 03, 2008, 07:20:58 pm »

     I once played a 1932 scenario where Alabama was lean Hoover. When I get home, I'll download the scenario and dig around through the guts of the data.

Something similar happened to me as well, though it wasn't 1932 but rather 1908 Taft vs. Bryan. I believe in that scenario Taft sweeped the South and Bryan took out most of New England. The funny thing as well was that people on the 80soft forum believed that it was a great scenario. Silly supposed political geeks that believe that every result in past Presidential Elections was similar to 2004.

     One thing that annoys me is when the map at the beginning is the same as the election day one IRL. I find it hard to believe that Truman was leading by ~70 EVs in mid-September of 1948.
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« Reply #1413 on: October 04, 2008, 10:35:10 pm »

     I checked out the scenario. Nixon leads 48-42 in WA & McGovern leads 77-12 in DC, according to the electorate_trends.p4e. Yet, they're somehow switched in the game. I guess you could just switch their values in the file so it works as it's supposed to.
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« Reply #1414 on: October 05, 2008, 06:53:25 pm »
« Edited: October 05, 2008, 06:57:20 pm by Politico »

Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.
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« Reply #1415 on: October 05, 2008, 07:02:29 pm »

Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.



Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?
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« Reply #1416 on: October 05, 2008, 07:20:52 pm »

Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.



Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?

Maybe I am mixing this up with another game? I think the one I played was called President Forever 1988. Or maybe it was President Elect. Either way, I spent hours trying to beat Reagan in '84 and only came away with a handful of states no matter what I did.
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« Reply #1417 on: October 05, 2008, 07:35:50 pm »

Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.



Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?

Maybe I am mixing this up with another game? I think the one I played was called President Forever 1988. Or maybe it was President Elect. Either way, I spent hours trying to beat Reagan in '84 and only came away with a handful of states no matter what I did.

     Most likely. Even without the two scandals, I was still in a dead heat with him. Beating him is not easy by any means, but it's still very doable.
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« Reply #1418 on: October 05, 2008, 07:44:39 pm »

Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.



Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?

Maybe I am mixing this up with another game? I think the one I played was called President Forever 1988. Or maybe it was President Elect. Either way, I spent hours trying to beat Reagan in '84 and only came away with a handful of states no matter what I did.

     Most likely. Even without the two scandals, I was still in a dead heat with him. Beating him is not easy by any means, but it's still very doable.

President Elect?

Now that I think about it, that was a really fun game.
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« Reply #1419 on: October 06, 2008, 02:56:55 am »

This is the one I am thinking of:

http://www.mobygames.com/game/president-elect-1988-edition

http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&sql=1:31937
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« Reply #1420 on: October 08, 2008, 10:42:55 am »

Cuba had similar politics to Florida at the start.

Why? Cuban expats aren't in any way representative of Cuba.
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« Reply #1421 on: October 10, 2008, 02:39:19 am »

     I ran as McGovern in 1972. Running four ads in every state at the end is officially the most overpowered tactic in all of President Forever. Missouri was decided by 1,205 votes. Colorado was won by 1,450 votes. Montana by 3,396 votes. Oregon was won by 5,204 votes.



McGovern/Shriver, 55%, 478 EVs
Nixon/Agnew, 42%, 60 EVs
Hospers/Nathan, 1%, 0 EVs
Schmitz/Anderson, 1%, 0 EVs
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« Reply #1422 on: October 10, 2008, 06:28:35 am »

     I ran as McGovern in 1972. Running four ads in every state at the end is officially the most overpowered tactic in all of President Forever. Missouri was decided by 1,205 votes. Colorado was won by 1,450 votes. Montana by 3,396 votes. Oregon was won by 5,204 votes.

Indeed it is. I played as Obama the other day, had a really messy primary against Clinton and just scraped over the line. I was reduced to a handful of states in New England plus Illinois at the start of the GE, waited until the final week and did the four ads in each state and won convincingly.
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« Reply #1423 on: October 10, 2008, 06:48:35 am »

When the other party has no real primary, they always get a landslide map at the start of the GE.
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« Reply #1424 on: October 10, 2008, 07:52:08 am »

When the other party has no real primary, they always get a landslide map at the start of the GE.

Yeah, I know, I was more agreeing with PiT's comment that ads are incredibly powerful in the game and that running a maximum number of hard-hitting ads right before the election often will dramatically swing the result.
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