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« Reply #1500 on: December 22, 2008, 02:40:53 pm »



Beat FDR!!!

Hoover 339
FDR      188

In a way you must be wondering how come you didn't win Iowa for Hoover, with such a big score. Tongue
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« Reply #1501 on: December 22, 2008, 05:17:38 pm »

1880 Presidential Election



Winfield S. Hancock/William H. English (D): 264 EV, 52% of the PV (5,415,632)
James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur (R): 105 EV, 44% of the PV (4,525,580)
James B. Weaver/Benjamin B. Chambers (G): 0 EV, 3% of the PV (333,754)

This time I ran as General Hancock in the 1880 Presidential Election against Representatives Garfield and Weaver. I used my traditional stategy (no need explaining it) and it propelled the inexperienced Hancock to become 20th President of the United States, despite polls indicating a Garfield victory.
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« Reply #1502 on: December 23, 2008, 06:36:01 pm »



Beat FDR!!!

Hoover 339
FDR      188

In a way you must be wondering how come you didn't win Iowa for Hoover, with such a big score. Tongue

     I managed to win IA back when I ran 1932. Wink
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« Reply #1503 on: December 23, 2008, 06:42:40 pm »


Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

For some reason I can't get it; can you e-mail it to me?
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« Reply #1504 on: December 23, 2008, 09:26:41 pm »

I've decided to go back and simulate every election since 1960, playing as the weakest candidate.

1960:

Nixon: 49% PV, 275 EV
Kennedy: 47% PV, 262 EV
Faubus: 2% PV, 0 EV

1964:

Johnson: 60% PV, 448 EV
Goldwater: 40% PV, 90 EV

1968:

Humphrey: 45% PV, 338 EV
Nixon: 36% PV, 100 EV
Wallace: 17% PV, 100 EV
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« Reply #1505 on: December 24, 2008, 04:44:03 am »


Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.
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« Reply #1506 on: December 24, 2008, 11:33:43 am »

1972:

McGovern: 51% PV, 328 EV
Nixon: 49% PV, 210 EV

1976:

Carter: 51% PV, 291 EV
Ford: 49% PV, 247 EV
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« Reply #1507 on: December 24, 2008, 05:23:24 pm »

1980:

Reagan: 46% PV, 273 EV
Carter: 45% PV, 265 EV
Anderson: 9% PV, 0 EV

1984:

Reagan: 56% PV, 462 EV
Mondale: 44% PV, 76 EV
Arkansas was decided by a margin of 223 votes.

1988:

Dukakis: 52% PV, 321 EV
Bush: 48% PV, 217 EV
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« Reply #1508 on: December 24, 2008, 08:23:32 pm »


Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.
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« Reply #1509 on: December 24, 2008, 08:33:32 pm »


Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

     Perhaps they were actually different versions of the scenario?
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« Reply #1510 on: December 24, 2008, 08:36:41 pm »


Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

     Perhaps they were actually different versions of the scenario?

It could have been. I haven't downloaded any scenario on the original PF since 2004. But the south should not move on a good 1932 scenario, especially the deep south.
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« Reply #1511 on: December 24, 2008, 08:52:41 pm »
« Edited: December 24, 2008, 08:56:41 pm by Senator PiT »


Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

     Perhaps they were actually different versions of the scenario?

It could have been. I haven't downloaded any scenario on the original PF since 2004. But the south should not move on a good 1932 scenario, especially the deep south.

     When I ran in 1932, I won by 14%, but FDR still won most of the South rather decisively:

     PBrunsel would be proud. Hoover starts out very weakly in this scenario, but ads are cheap, so it doesn't matter much. I also got about five scandals on Roosevelt, including two right before election day.



Hoover/Curtis, 52%, 434 EVs
Roosevelt/Garner, 38%, 98 EVs
Thomas/Maurer, 6%, 0 EVs
Foster/????, 2%, 0 EVs

     Not great, but a step in the right direction.
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« Reply #1512 on: December 27, 2008, 01:35:40 pm »



This is from a scenario that I created about that the Democratic Convention is bitter and leads to Hillary getting the nomination and Obama walking out and running under the "Reform Democratic" banner for president with Governor Easley of NC, also Obama is on the ballot on states he won during the primary season and ditto for Hillary. Played as Obama and used a media blitz to get many of the leaning or tossup states between Obama and McCain to go green and hit McCain with a few scandals. The Election results have no one getting a majority of the EV's and the House elects Hillary Clinton as the 44th President.

(R): John McCain/Mitt Romney: 201 EV 42% PV
(D): Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson: 183 EV 30% PV
(RD): Barack Obama/Mike Easley: 154 EV 26% PV
Other: 0 EV 2% PV
Can you email me this scenario? It seems fun, and I can't find it on the 80soft website.
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« Reply #1513 on: December 28, 2008, 12:42:23 am »

1992:

Clinton: 41% PV, 279 EV
Bush: 43% PV, 259 EV
Perot: 16% PV, 0 EV

1996:

Clinton: 43% PV, 326 EV
Dole: 42% PV, 212 EV
Perot: 15% PV, 0 EV
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« Reply #1514 on: December 28, 2008, 05:49:38 pm »

2000:

Bush: 47% PV, 274 EV
Gore: 46% PV, 264 EV
Nader: 7% PV, 0 EV

2004:

Kerry: 48% PV, 287 EV
Bush: 47% PV, 251 EV
Nader: 5% PV, 0 EV
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« Reply #1515 on: December 28, 2008, 05:53:42 pm »

1992:

Clinton: 41% PV, 279 EV
Bush: 43% PV, 259 EV
Perot: 16% PV, 0 EV

1996:

Clinton: 43% PV, 326 EV
Dole: 42% PV, 212 EV
Perot: 15% PV, 0 EV

OK, who tainted Vermont? Tongue
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« Reply #1516 on: January 04, 2009, 05:52:03 pm »


Clinton: 55% PV, 506 EV
Dole: 37% PV, 32 EV
Perot: 8% PV, 0 EV
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« Reply #1517 on: January 09, 2009, 10:25:04 pm »


Humphrey: 56% PV, 468 EV
Wallace: 17% PV, 70 EV
Nixon: 25% PV, 0 EV
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« Reply #1518 on: January 20, 2009, 04:11:26 am »



Giuliani 478
Clinton   60
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« Reply #1519 on: January 20, 2009, 05:21:29 pm »


Mondale: 52% PV, 299 EV
Reagan: 48% PV, 239 EV
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« Reply #1520 on: January 23, 2009, 09:30:35 pm »

1972 Presidential Election



Angela Davis/Eldridge Cleaver (Communist): 267 EV, 36% of the PV (37,002,682)
Timothy Leary/R.A Wilson (Freedom): 251 EV, 35% of the (35,856,091)
Abbie Hoffman/Jane Fonda (Revolutionary): 20 EV, 27% of the PV (27,410,467)

I ran as Hoffman, had 18% and 0 EV's going into Election Day. I somehow increased my popular vote totals by 9% and managed to win the states of Oregon, Nevada, North Dakota, South Dakota and Rhode Island. Sadly, Abbie wasn't elected President. Timothy Leary of the Freedom Party became America's first post-revolution President as the election was forced to the House.
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« Reply #1521 on: January 24, 2009, 03:58:06 pm »


Ford: 55% PV, 342 EV
Carter: 45% PV, 196 EV
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« Reply #1522 on: January 30, 2009, 02:13:06 am »



Bush 482
Clinton 43
Perot 13
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« Reply #1523 on: January 30, 2009, 07:19:25 pm »



Bush 482
Clinton 43
Perot 13

that's pretty good.
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« Reply #1524 on: February 11, 2009, 04:19:03 pm »


Hollings: 50.7% PV, 271 EV
Reagan: 49.3% PV, 267 EV
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