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« on: September 24, 2004, 11:26:22 am »

Had to get those off my chest, and couldn't find the old thread... Sad

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A blowout that could have been even better. Kerry/Clarke v Bush/Cheney. PV was 54-46 to myself. I won Kansas by a margin of 13 points, 56-43.
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2004, 11:50:28 am »

Ran as Gore/Clark v Bush/Cheney. Was very close until the final days. I hit him with a power 3 scandal which he immiediately spun away. With only a day or so left I wrecked his base completely digging into the South opening up leads in NC, VA and TX. The tossups in those final days were: New Mecixo, New Jersey, Texas, Georgia, Minnesota, Ohio, Lousiana and Arkansas. I won 5 of those.

In total, I won the PV 53-47 and the EV 419-119.


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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2004, 12:07:55 pm »

I won every state plus DC as a custom candidate once. I think I was running against Ralph Nader, though.

When is the new PF version coming out?
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2004, 12:38:32 pm »

Ran as Bush/Cheney against Kerry/Edwards in 2004. Won 314 to 224.

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2004, 10:31:36 am »


When is the new PF version coming out?
The homepage for President Forever was updated Thursday, the new report now says that primaries will not be out for several weeks.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2004, 04:43:47 am »

I hadn't updated mine for a while, I couldn't believe all that the've added.
Best. Shareware. Ever.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2004, 04:37:00 pm »

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Clark/Kerry v Bush/Cheney.

I ran out of funds in the final days... Sad

Losing Texas by a mere point was rough...I also lost South Carolina and Mississippi by very narrow margins.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2004, 07:25:55 pm »

my best ever game was this. In 1996 I smoked Dole with 55% of the vote, Perot taking about 11%:

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I also did this as Mondale:

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2004, 09:52:09 pm »

That's an accomplishment for Mondale. I mean, only losing 42 states?
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2004, 10:15:38 pm »

I just did this as Hillary Clinton/Obama vs. DeLay/Owens in the 2008 scenario "A New Direction". Oh yeah, did I just whoop his ass:

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And with no scandals on DeLay, and one on me. I just kept slamming his integrity.

I also got over 70% in NJ, over 60% in VA, CT, MA, MD, DE, WA, TN, NM, ME, IL, RI, NY and WV, and almost 60% in PA, NC, OH, MO, OR, NH, CO. And DeLay only won Kansas, North Dakota and South Carolina by less than 3 points. 56% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2004, 10:18:46 pm »
« Edited: October 05, 2004, 10:21:32 pm by BRTD »

And for the record, all of these are with Dynamism off.

Also, here's one that I made. It's a ridiculous scenario that I never thought had any chance of happening, I just did it because it'd be easy and thought I would start small in making them. I want to try an Edwards vs. Santorum one in 2012 sometime. Try it out: http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/150733-J7EH/DeanTheIndependent-2004.zip
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2004, 03:32:03 am »

Kerry/Dean 446 vs. Bush/Cheney 92

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Closest GOP state:
Georgia by 1.5%

Closest DEM state:
Maryland  by 1.2%

This was a good one-I won Texas and Utah Wink Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2004, 11:28:42 pm »

I said that I wouldn't play as anyone but Dean until I won with him.

I pulled it off. However I lost the popular vote 51/48.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2004, 11:34:46 pm »

Did anyone try my independent Dean scenario?

I know it's not really much different from the typical 2004, but I just wanted to start with something easy.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2004, 11:38:32 pm »

I tried it, but Dean wasn't powerful enough IMHO. It was still really good Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2004, 09:41:55 am »

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I always thought it was impossible to lose with Powell, but this one was damn close...I was hit by a power 8 Scandal in the final days, ran out of money with a day or so left, Kerry won all the debates, the PV was more or less a tie, Kerry won almost all of the tossups by substantial margins, my ads weren't that good...but I still managed to win.

CA, CT and IN were all decided by less than 2 points.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2004, 11:58:24 am »

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One of my better results ever.

Edwards/Clark v Bush/Cheney.

One of the keys to this win were huge debate wins which meant a lot of momentum on issue familiarity. I won the pv 53-47. No scandals in the campaign at all.

Closest states:

Minnesota, Edwards 51-49

Wisconsin: Edwards 51-49

South Carolina: 51-48

Kansas: 51-48

California: 51-48

Best for Edwards:

DC: 86%

Maine: 72% (!)

West Virginia: 64%

Mississippi: 63% (!!)

Oregon: 62%

Best for Bush:

North Dakota: 72%

WYoming: 66%

Idaho: 66%

Utah: 65%

Montana: 64%



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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2004, 12:03:13 pm »

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I always thought it was impossible to lose with Powell, but this one was damn close...I was hit by a power 8 Scandal in the final days, ran out of money with a day or so left, Kerry won all the debates, the PV was more or less a tie, Kerry won almost all of the tossups by substantial margins, my ads weren't that good...but I still managed to win.

CA, CT and IN were all decided by less than 2 points.

Kerry won OK and KS and Powell won NY and CA?

Why do you people use dynamism?
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2004, 02:48:10 pm »

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I played the UNA 2004 scenario as Stockwell Day/Bill Frist against Gore/Lieberman and won 420-191.  53% of the PV
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2004, 03:49:05 pm »
« Edited: October 10, 2004, 03:57:16 pm by BRTD »

Man, it sure is easy to beat Tom DeLay.

I just did this as Russ Feingold:

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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2004, 01:55:55 pm »

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I tried to do a game that would be similar to the actual race. So, Kerry/Edwards v Bush/Cheney for starters.

Then I let Kerry run on Military Intervention, Public Health Care and Leadership. I also researched PHC. I focused more on the battlegrounds than I usually do as well. The result was pretty good, as you can see above... Wink
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2004, 05:40:22 pm »

Call me dumb, but how do I generate these maps? I have my best result that I want to post. I have it memorized pretty well.
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2004, 04:20:28 am »

You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. Smiley

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2004, 06:57:54 pm »

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McCain/Scarborough- 53%(66,688,735) 433 EVs
Gore/Kerry- 39%(49,288824) 105 EVs
Buchanan/Foster- 2%(2,726,293)
Nader/LaDuke- 3%(4,744,990)

I won most states by large margins.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2004, 08:42:42 pm »

You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. Smiley

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry

Kerry's third main issue is bashing Bush over the economy, not really classifiable here. I'd go with Personal Tax he has the center-left position.
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