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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2004, 04:42:08 pm »

You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. Smiley

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry

Kerry's third main issue is bashing Bush over the economy, not really classifiable here. I'd go with Personal Tax he has the center-left position.

Yeah, I know that, but as you yourself point out it isn't classifiable. I started doing free trade a while, since that sort of encompasses out-sourcing.
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2004, 04:49:20 pm »

Ran the race again, this time made it even more realistic, with Bush going more for news spinning and ground game, Kerry more for endorsments and barnstorming, etc. I also included the other candidates.

This one was really tight, Bush led in the EC throughout the entire campaign whereas the PV was tied.



PV: Kerry won the 2-party vote 50.2-49.8

EV: Kerry won 280-258

Closest states were Nevada, Tennessee, New Hampshire, Maryland, Virginia, Vermont, North Carolina, West Virginia and Florida.
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2004, 05:52:53 pm »

Indiana won by Kerry... in my dreams *sniff*
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2004, 06:28:54 pm »



Kerry: 51.09%, 274

Bush:  48.91%, 264
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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2004, 07:39:44 pm »

Removed dynamism for those last games, btw.



Kerry won the PV 52-48 and the EV 311-227.

Bush was lucky winning a lot of squeakers...New Hampshire, Georgia, West Virginia and Colorado for instance.
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2004, 12:50:01 pm »



PV: Kerry wins 51-49

EV: Kerry wins 347-191
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2004, 01:16:47 pm »

I'm getting mad at you Gustaf. Why can't you ever seem to win Minnesota?
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2004, 01:47:59 pm »
« Edited: October 17, 2004, 01:57:50 pm by dubya2004 »



2000 McCain/Gore
McCain 275 50.1%
Gore    263  49.9%

Tossups were:
NC 51.0/49.0
TN 50.2/49.8
MO 50.4/49.6
IA 50.1/49.9

I ran out of money in the last week and he sprung 3 big scandals, but I won all the debates and rode issue familiarity.
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2004, 06:05:20 pm »

Try the 2008 scenario A New Direction and run Hagel against Edwards if you want a close race. Can't get much closer than it usually does.
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2004, 06:34:11 pm »

here's my latest game of it. I won the popular vote 51-48:

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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2004, 01:47:16 pm »

hey gusaf...play me vs you...
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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2004, 04:13:36 pm »



Pataki/Owens 53%(66,593466) 369
Edwards/Obama 46%(58,440,220) 169

Using the 2008 A New Direction scenario.
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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2004, 04:56:58 pm »



Here you go, BRTD. Wink

Another one of those real-life-like matchups...Bush sprung a medium scandal on Kerry and won the 2nd debate...I'm suprised Kerry actually managed to get as close as he did in the end. The tossups in the end were CA, OH, WV, MN and NV I think. The closest states were WI, NV and OH.
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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2004, 07:43:00 pm »

 How do you play this game? Were do you find it?
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« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2004, 08:33:41 pm »

How do you play this game? Were do you find it?

Google search result for "President Forever" should get you there. You need to pay $12 to buy the game so it is completable - it is worth it.
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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2004, 12:01:41 am »

just played 2004 using Gustaf's set up, with Personal Tax as Kerry's third theme. This is what happened:



Thank Nader for Connecticut, he took 65,296 votes allowing Bush to win it by 119. Next closest state was Nevada, I took it by 1418 votes, with Nader getting 28362 and Badnarik getting 39098.
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« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2004, 03:34:25 pm »

My best win ever as General Wesley Clark:



Clark/Vilsack: 483

Bush/Cheney: 55

Nolan/Millay: 0 (But, somehow, 4,321,987 popular votes)

Wesley Clark has to be the best Democrat in the 2004 Scenario.

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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2004, 04:37:53 pm »



Kerry ran with free trade/Kerry as his 3rd theme. Bush ran on Leadership/Bush, Integrity/Attacking Kerry and Terrorism/Bush.

PV:

Kerry: 48.52%

Bush: 46.24%
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« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2004, 09:40:25 pm »

Fine, since the map won't appear:
Changes from 2000 ....

Dem to Rep

Wisconsin
Iowa
Michigan
New Mexico


Rep to Dem

New Hampshire
West Virginia
Florida (dem to dem)
Missouri
Colorado
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« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2004, 11:15:41 pm »



Gore vs. Bush 2004
Bush 351 51%
Gore 187 48%

Tossups were:
HI 560 votes
CA
MD
IL
IN
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« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2004, 01:19:30 am »



Gore vs. Bush 2004
Bush 351 51%
Gore 187 48%

Tossups were:
HI 560 votes
CA
MD
IL
IN

That's interesting.  Gore actually won his home state in that scenario.
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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2004, 12:16:08 am »

Feingold/Richardson sinks Pataki/Owens. Oh yeah:



Popular vote 52/47

closest state: Arizona (Pataki by 0.5%)

Interesting state: Washington. Was Pataki up by 7 at one point, voted for Feingold by 21. That scandal I unleashed on him the last week sure had an effect.
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« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2004, 12:50:43 am »

Off the 2020 scenario. As Gavin Newsom I won an electoral landslide but only 33% of the popular vote against Todd Staples, Matt Gonzalez, and Michael Badnarik:



Gonzalez = Green, Badnarik = gray
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« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2004, 03:17:15 pm »

Joke game
Kucinich v Bush v Nolan v Nader
Bush      52 497
Kucinich 38    41
Nader      9 
Nolan       1



Maine had a 137 vote margin so I guess ME-2 went for Bush.

Major tossups were MA 48.0
                                      47.8
                                 NY 46.9
                                      46.7
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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2004, 05:16:16 pm »

I finally got it, and have played two games. First as Kerry/Lieberman against Bush/Cheney (lost.....barely), and once as Ross Perot in 92 and did decent (I won Alaska by only 19 votes!!!)
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