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« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2005, 06:18:47 am »

Okay, Howard Dean again.

I hit Bush with a power 12 scandal that got augmented to power 14 a week before the election and it sat there at that level the entire time.  Meanwhile, I ran four power 5 ads for four days before the election.

I lost in the electoral college by nearly 200 electoral votes.

I have come to the conclusion that winning as Howard Dean against George W. Bush is physically impossible.

BUT I WON NEW YORK THIS TIME SO THE JOKE IS ON BUSH
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« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2005, 08:37:42 am »

I've won with Dean. Big, even. There is probably something wrng with your strategy, I don't reacall it was even that hard to win with Dean. Power 5 isn't that good, you should have at least one power 6 ad. Wink

To answer someone's question, debate skill is more important than issue knowledge for winning the debate, but issue knowledge matters for how much of a boost you get. Also, I think being above 50 in EP matters more than you'd think.
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« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2005, 06:07:56 pm »

I've won with Dean. Big, even. There is probably something wrng with your strategy, I don't reacall it was even that hard to win with Dean. Power 5 isn't that good, you should have at least one power 6 ad. Wink

Fine, be that way. Tongue
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« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2005, 06:14:20 pm »

A scandal on Gore got to 22 at one point, and that's why McCain won.
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« Reply #129 on: April 03, 2005, 09:08:25 pm »

I just won a tight game playing as myself vs. Colin Wixted. The swing states were California, Arizona, Hawaii, Wisconsin and Cnnecticut, but all the fopcus was on CA and TX. In the end, we each won one of them-I got CA and he got TX. I also got AZ and WI, but he got HI and CT. Either way, I won with something like 290 Smiley
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« Reply #130 on: April 04, 2005, 12:34:58 pm »



Dean/Gephardt v Bush/Cheney v Nader v Badnarik

PV: Dean-Bush-Nader-Badnarik was 50-42-5-1

EV: Dean wins 297-241.

Best states:

Bush: Idaho 62.9%
Dean: Illinois 61.2%
Nader: Alaska 13.4%
Badnarik: California: 6.9%

Worse states:
Bush: Hawaii 30.6%
Dean: Alaska 28.6%
Nader: Missouri 1.2%
Badnarik: Mississippi 0% (23 votes)

Closest states:
Florida, where Bush won by 1.2%, 48.3% v 47.1% with Nader getting the rest.

This was an interesting election. I only got one power 5 ad throughout the entire campaign, hit Bush with two medium scandals (power 6) whereas I got hit by a power 9 scandal. I also started out about 150 EVs behind. But I managed to win despite this, somehow. I didn't take the lead until 1 day before the election. I have to admit Gabu that it was harder playing Dean than I remembered, he started out 3% behind and it became as bad as 5% before I turned it around.

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« Reply #131 on: April 04, 2005, 03:27:11 pm »

Oh, all right, I'll try Dean again. Wink
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« Reply #132 on: April 04, 2005, 03:29:04 pm »



My best result so far as Perot.  Rather slapdash effort on my part throughout, especially as I grew convinced I wasn't getting anywhere.

As usual, of course, I surged in the last weekend and in the last two days before the election, gaining PA and WA.

CA and UT were complete suprises, as I thought Clinton and Bush had them in the bag, respectively--of course, I only won California by 65,000 votes.

Beat Bush in the EV count due to CA and TX, and got a good 24% of the PV.
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« Reply #133 on: April 05, 2005, 03:59:51 am »

The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.
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« Reply #134 on: April 05, 2005, 03:40:54 pm »

The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.

I'm under the impression 80soft Software is ran by Greens. Otherwise they would never let California vote for Cart in 1980. Smiley
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« Reply #135 on: April 05, 2005, 03:51:24 pm »

Man, dynamism produces weird results:



This is myself playing as Al Sharpton/Dick Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney

Sharpton--55%  337 EV
Bush--44% 201 EV

Closest States
Iowa--Sharpton wins by about 1,700 votes
New Mexico--Sharpton wins by about 2,700 votes
Wyoming-Bush wins by about 2,700 votes

Best Bush states
North Dakota--66.1%
Connecticut--60.4%
Florida--58.3%
Ohio--58.1%
Wisconsin--57.2%

Best Sharpton states
DC--88.8%
New Jersey-71.7%
Illinois--71.3%
Rhode Island--67.7%
New York-65.9%
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« Reply #136 on: April 05, 2005, 04:58:20 pm »

The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.

I'm under the impression 80soft Software is ran by Greens. Otherwise they would never let California vote for Cart in 1980. Smiley

Screw that, I won Montana, the Dakotas, and Texas as Mondale. Cheesy
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« Reply #137 on: April 05, 2005, 05:41:18 pm »
« Edited: April 05, 2005, 05:42:53 pm by Senator Gabu, PPT »

I WIN

Dean (me) vs. Bush:



Dean: 274 EVs (54% PV)
Bush: 264 EVs (45% PV)

Best states - Dean:

1. Massachussetts (70.6%)
2. New York (69.4%)
3. Maine (66.4%)

Best states - Bush:

1. Idaho (64.4%)
2. Alabama (59.5%)
3. Utah (59.2%)

Closest states:

1. Oklahoma (Bush wins 50.23-49.77)
2. North Dakota (Bush wins 50.24-49.76)
3. Mississippi (Dean wins 50.4-49.5)

Closest election I've had yet.  The only states I could have lost and still won the election were Delaware, Vermont, Rhode Island, or Maine.

PS: No, I don't know how I won the Carolinas and Mississippi while losing Minnesota and Pennsylvania. Smiley
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« Reply #138 on: April 05, 2005, 07:26:26 pm »



My best result so far as Perot.  Rather slapdash effort on my part throughout, especially as I grew convinced I wasn't getting anywhere.

As usual, of course, I surged in the last weekend and in the last two days before the election, gaining PA and WA.

CA and UT were complete suprises, as I thought Clinton and Bush had them in the bag, respectively--of course, I only won California by 65,000 votes.

Beat Bush in the EV count due to CA and TX, and got a good 24% of the PV.

That's nothing compared to a result I got [I don't know when]!





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« Reply #139 on: April 06, 2005, 02:53:06 pm »

Gotta Love Dynamism: Bush/Cheney vs. Kerry/Edwards vs. Wixted/McCain



Bush- 31% PV- 131 EVs
Kerry- 32% PV- 87 EVs
Wixted- 35% PV- 320 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 57.2%
Kerry: Oklahoma 52.4%
Wixted: Delaware 48.0%

Worst State (Not Including DC):

Bush: Maryland 21.8%
Kerry: Alaska 17.0%
Wixted: Virginia 14.8%

Closest States:

New Mexico (37.3% Bush-25.1% Kerry-37.4% Wixted) Wixted Win By 1,268 Votes
Connecticut (22.3% Bush-38.9 Kerry-38.7% Wixted) Kerry Win By 3,323 Votes
Georgia (37.7% Bush-24.0% Kerry-38.1% Wixted) Wixted Win By 13,376 Votes
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« Reply #140 on: April 06, 2005, 02:54:02 pm »

Verin how did you make those great maps? Is their a program that you use or is it just paint?
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« Reply #141 on: April 06, 2005, 02:55:42 pm »



Argh! Came very close to winning CA with Perot.

PV was Bush 33% Clinton 34% and Perot 31%

I'm gonna keep trying...I think it's possible to win with Perot, if you have a little luck.
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« Reply #142 on: April 06, 2005, 04:49:19 pm »

Verin how did you make those great maps? Is their a program that you use or is it just paint?

Just paint and the Atlas key Smiley
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« Reply #143 on: April 06, 2005, 05:21:02 pm »

THE REVENGE OF THE THIRD PARTIES! Cheesy

Just for fun, I ripped off Colin's idea and made myself an independent in 2004 and gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Bush vs. Kerry vs. Longley vs. Badnarik:



Bush: 243 EVs (32% PV)
Kerry: 162 EVs (30% PV)
Longley: 130 EVs (27% PV)
Badnarik: 3 EVs (9% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Washington (42.5%)
Bush: Vermont (49.3%) (?!??!!?)
Longley: Nebraska (49.3%)
Badnarik: South Dakota (29.4%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Utah (16.4%)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.3%)
Longley: Missouri (15.9%)
Badnarik: New Mexico (0.0% - 343 votes)

Closest states:

1. South Dakota (Badnarik wins over Bush, 29.4-29.3)
2. Ohio (Bush wins over Longley, 28.5-28.2)
3. Colorado (Longley wins over Bush, 34.5-32.2)

After a gigantic scandal on Kerry about three and a half weeks before the election, Bush was well in the lead and Badnarik and I were hardly even on the radar.  At first it looked like he would go towards near-landslide victory, but then, well...





I surged with a momentum of roughly +700 to take tons of states away from Bush and throw other states to Kerry, and, as a result, throw the election to the House.

Badnarik got up just enough momentum to take South Dakota, as well, a feat that I'm sure will make John Dibble proud of him. Smiley
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« Reply #144 on: April 06, 2005, 06:35:08 pm »



Phew! This one was close...:

Bush: 36 963 395 (33%) 185 EVs
Clinton: 36 812 267 (33%) 127 EVs
Perot: 35 816 774 (33%) 226 EVs

Best states:
Bush: Georgia, 52.9%
Clinton: Arkansas, 51.7%
Perot: Wyoming 64.6%

Worse states:
Bush: Vermont, 14.1%
Clinton: Utah, 11%
Perot: Alabama, 9.2%

Closest states:
Florida, Bush-Perot-Clinton 34.4%-33.3%-32.2%
California: Perot-Clinton 37.6%-36.8%
Colorado: Clinton-Bush 36.7%-35.9%

New York, Illinois and Iowa were also very close.

If I hadn't spent all my money in the first two weeks I might have won this one. Sad Still, I'm very pleased. Smiley
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« Reply #145 on: April 06, 2005, 07:19:47 pm »

Who won in the house Gustaf?
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« Reply #146 on: April 06, 2005, 07:23:01 pm »

Party by Party Results for my last race.







I did worst in the Interior West, parts of the South, parts of the Mid-Atlantic, and parts of the Midwest. The Republican did worst in the Pacific West, Upper Midwest, Upper South, Florida and the Northeast. The Democrat worst areas were the West, the South and the Upper Northeast.
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« Reply #147 on: April 06, 2005, 07:56:07 pm »

SamSpade/Ebowed (me): 280
Andrew/John Ford: 258



It was a real nailbiter, only winning California 50.5-49.4, Colorado 50.5-49.4, Missouri 50.4-49.5, and I lost the PV 50-49. I got a late scandal on Andrew, that was what put me over the top.
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« Reply #148 on: April 08, 2005, 08:42:06 am »


What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik?  (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)
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« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2005, 12:41:20 pm »


What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik?  (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario.  I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.
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