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« Reply #150 on: April 08, 2005, 07:44:10 pm »


What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik? (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario. I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Badnarik isn't in the 2004 scenario in my game Tongue
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« Reply #151 on: April 08, 2005, 07:45:21 pm »

What happens when Kerry runs against a perfect (all-around 5) extreme leftist candidate, using my super-long campaign scenario:

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« Reply #152 on: April 08, 2005, 09:39:37 pm »
« Edited: April 08, 2005, 10:16:19 pm by Senator Gabu, PPT »


What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik? (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario. I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Badnarik isn't in the 2004 scenario in my game Tongue

Er, I haven't a clue what game you're playing in that case. Tongue  Badnarik came with the 2004 scenario I have...
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« Reply #153 on: April 08, 2005, 09:47:31 pm »

I think there was an update with him in it.
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« Reply #154 on: April 08, 2005, 10:32:33 pm »

Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon:



Kennedy: 438 EVs (55% PV)
Nixon: 99 EVs (41% PV)

Best states:

Kennedy: Rhode Island (79.8%)
Nixon: Tennessee (55.0%)

Worst states:

Kennedy: Tennessee (42.5%)
Nixon: Louisiana (16.3%)

Closest states:

1. Ohio (Kennedy wins, 49.4-49.3)
2. Indiana (Nixon wins, 49.4-48.7)
3. Idaho (Kennedy wins, 47.8-46.6)

I think that this is what you call the Big Mo':

2 days to go:



1 day to go:



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« Reply #155 on: April 09, 2005, 01:44:37 am »

Kerry (me) vs. Bush vs. Nader vs. Badnarik:



Kerry: 468 EVs (47% PV)
Bush: 70 EVs (33% PV)
Nader: 0 EVs (4% PV)
Badnarik: 0 EVs (13% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Rhode Island (74.7%)
Bush: Idaho (51.2%)
Nader: Alaska (13.6%)
Badnarik: Nevada (31.9%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Alaska (25.9%)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.0%)
Nader: Idaho (0.2%)
Badnarik: Rhode Island (0.2%)

Closest states:

1. Utah (Bush wins over Kerry, 47.2-46.2)
2. Georgia (Kerry wins over Bush, 48.9-47.6)
3. Iowa (Kerry wins over Bush, 38.4-36.8 )

Now that's what I call a landslide - Kerry had won the election by 9:00 PM! Cheesy
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« Reply #156 on: April 09, 2005, 04:05:45 am »
« Edited: April 09, 2005, 04:10:18 am by Senator Gabu, PPT »

Being very bored, I decided to run myself against opebo, Mike Naso, and John Dibble, and given both myself and Dibble $2 billion and Naso and opebo $0 to see what would happen.  Basically, my strategy was to do absolutely nothing but spin news, run two ads at a time in all 50 states for the entire duration of the campaign, and research scandals on Naso and opebo.  Party establishment of Dibble and I were 1; the others were 5.

The result:



Longley: 521 EVs (43% PV)
Dibble: 11 EVs (14% PV)
Naso: 3 EVs (22% PV)
opebo: 3 EVs (19% PV)

Best states:

Longley: Montana (55.8%)
Dibble: Indiana (33.9%)
Naso: Alaska (46.3%)
opebo: New York (40.2%)

NOTE: I don't usually mention DC because it's horribly boring, but it should be noted that opebo won DC with only 56.4%.

Worst states:

Longley: Indiana (28.8%)
Dibble: California (1.9%)
Naso: Rhode Island (7.1%)
opebo: Wyoming (0.0% - 6 votes!!!!!!!!)

Closest states:

1. Alaska (Naso wins over Longley, 46.3-44.7)
2. Indiana (Dibble wins over Naso, 33.9-31.2)
3. Oklahoma (Longley wins over Dibble, 34.2-30.7)

Just for fun, here's a screenshot of the absolutely hilarious Wyoming result:



and a very similar Utah result:



and just for kicks, here's the PV bar with the pictures I used for each character. Smiley

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« Reply #157 on: April 09, 2005, 01:42:19 pm »

I gave Perot a try...



Clinton got socked with 3-4 scandals, while Bush and I were ok scandal-wise.  Clinton won one debate, another was a tie, and I (Perot) triumphed in third debate.

Bush--36% 246 EV
Clinton--27% 83 EV
Perot--33% 209 EV
Marrou--2% 0 EV

Best states
Bush--North Carolina 59.3%
Clinton--DC 53.5%/Rhode Island 48.3%
Perot--Oregon 53.6%

Closest states:
Colorado-Perot 39.2%/Bush 38.9%
Montana-Clinton 40.7%/Perot 39.4%
New York-Bush 37.6%/Clinton 36.8%
Michigan--Clinton 35.6%/Perot 34.1%/Bush 30.2%

Despite his poor performance, the House picked Bill Clinton for President.
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« Reply #158 on: April 09, 2005, 07:09:43 pm »


This is my best all time result. I won several times as Perot, Nader, Anderson, etc. The best result in PM Forever, however, I won as Layton with 180 seats and I won my D.C. Council scenario with Ralph Nader once.
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« Reply #159 on: April 09, 2005, 10:16:26 pm »



1980 Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson

Carter 51% (51,308,126 votes) 343 EVs
Reagan 41% (42,024,861 votes) 195 EVs
Anderson 7% (7,098,525 votes) 0 EVs

Closest States

Carter

New Mexico by 0.1% (297 votes)
Wisconsin by 0.8%
Maryland by 0.8%
California by 0.8%
Kansas by 1.8%

Reagan closest states

Pennsylvania by 1.8%
New Jersey by 3%


Best states

Carter-Alabama (74.9%)
Reagan-Idaho (66.9%)
Anderson-Arizona (25.1%)

It was a good game, overall. We each had a major scandal but I pressed ard on soviet aggression and inflation, and got there in the end.
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« Reply #160 on: April 10, 2005, 07:04:07 am »



My 3rd attempt with Perot...this one went badly, I chrushed Bush in the beginning but Clinton managed to capitalize on it despite being hit with several scandals.

I beat Bush in the electoral college, at least. Smiley

Oh, and Jake, the house always picks Clinton in the 1992 scenario, I think. Just like they always pick Bush in the 2004 scenario.
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« Reply #161 on: April 10, 2005, 10:12:03 am »
« Edited: April 10, 2005, 10:14:58 am by Old Europe »

YAY!

1976: Carter landslide. Ford got hit by two scandals a week before the election (one of them had a power of 10 or 11, if I recall correctly) and I spun them as long as I could.



Carter
Popular Vote: 56%
Electoral Vote: 434

Ford
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 104

McCarthy
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0
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« Reply #162 on: April 10, 2005, 10:50:29 am »

And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...



Reagan
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 294

Mondale
Popular Vote: 47%
Electoral Vote: 244
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« Reply #163 on: April 10, 2005, 10:58:30 am »

Dean (me) vs. Bush:



Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.

did you have dynamism on?

It's not that hard to alter scenarios you know, fixing 1972 shouldn't be too hard.
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« Reply #164 on: April 10, 2005, 04:07:02 pm »
« Edited: April 10, 2005, 04:09:04 pm by Senator Gabu, PPT »

And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

Here's what my strategy was to win as Mondale:

1. Fix your horrible platform.  Change absolutely everything to "centrist".  You have such a tiny base that it hardly impacts anything to do so.

2. Immediately start researching a scandal on Reagan on whatever the people care most about.  If you're successful with a reasonable amount of time left in the campaign, do it again on another topic.  You must have at least one power 9 scandal against Reagan by the last week of the campaign.

3. Immediately start making ad after ad, deleting your weakest ads when you've accumulated four, until you have four ads of at least power 5.

4. Put as much effort as you can into getting endorsements from places that give you issue momentum.  Don't let a single one of them endorse Reagan.

5. Once all of this is done, spend the entire time giving policy speeches and barnstorming while keeping your issue knowledge/debating skills level.  Don't bother trying to win the debate against Reagan; just spin it down when he wins.  Put as much spin as you can spare on any and every news event that comes up that has a power level of 3 or more.

6. Two weeks before the election, leak your lower-power scandal if you have one and spin it with a 100% success rate for all it's worth until a week before the election or until it dies.  Stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the scandal.

7. One week before the election, leak your power 9 scandal and spin, spin, spin, spin with a 100% success rate.  Again, stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the power 9 scandal.  It's extremely important that the scandal stay with a high power and at the top of the headlines for the entire remaining duration of the campaign.

8. Three days before the election, set up your four ads to run in all 50 states.

9. Pray to God for mercy on election night. Smiley
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« Reply #165 on: April 10, 2005, 07:46:44 pm »


You won Texas, Montana, the Dakota, but you lost Minnesota. Huh
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« Reply #166 on: April 10, 2005, 07:49:08 pm »


You won Texas, Montana, the Dakota, but you lost Minnesota. Huh

Dynamism does some strange things.
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« Reply #167 on: April 10, 2005, 08:41:00 pm »

Just played a good 1860 game.   I was Bell and did worse than historically.  Some minor scandals throughout on every candidate but me, Lincoln won the debates.  I was close in a number of states througout (NC, TN, MD, LA, GA) but ended up with only two (KY and VI).  No one recived a mjority, so Congrees picked Douglas.

Since I don't know how to get a map up of the election, I just post some stats.

Lincoln- 28%, 64 electoral votes
Douglas- 27%, 97 electoral votes
Breckenridge- 26%, 115 electoral votes
Bell 17%, 27 electoral votes

Changes for History

Lincoln loses Oregon, California, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania.

Douglas gains Oregon, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire.

Breckenridge gains Tennessee, Pennsylvania, and California

Bell loses Tennessee.

Best States:
Lincoln: Vermont, 74.1%
Douglas: Michigan, 52.4%
Breckenridge: Texas, 75.4%
Bell: Virginia, 47.9%

Worst States:
Lincoln: Florida, 0% (20)
Douglas: Texas, 0.1%
Breckenridge: Illinois, 0.5%
Bell: Illinois 0% (231)

Closest States:
Oregon: Douglas voer Breckenridge 42.0 to 41.8
Maine: Lincoln over Douglas 45.2 to 44.6
New Jersey: Douglas over Lincoln 49.6 to 48.5
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« Reply #168 on: April 10, 2005, 10:49:57 pm »

Since I don't know how to get a map up of the election, I just post some stats.

Given that the EV Calculator feature only goes back to 1896, the easiest way would probably be to save a copy of the map on this page to your hard drive and then use MS Paint to repaint the states.
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« Reply #169 on: April 11, 2005, 06:28:29 pm »

Playing as Mondale



451-87



313-225, giving me an extra 5%. Was pretty close toward the end, lost PV 53-46.
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« Reply #170 on: April 12, 2005, 06:04:24 am »
« Edited: April 12, 2005, 06:06:17 am by Old Europe »

And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

Here's what my strategy was to win as Mondale:

1. Fix your horrible platform.  Change absolutely everything to "centrist".  You have such a tiny base that it hardly impacts anything to do so.

2. Immediately start researching a scandal on Reagan on whatever the people care most about.  If you're successful with a reasonable amount of time left in the campaign, do it again on another topic.  You must have at least one power 9 scandal against Reagan by the last week of the campaign.

3. Immediately start making ad after ad, deleting your weakest ads when you've accumulated four, until you have four ads of at least power 5.

4. Put as much effort as you can into getting endorsements from places that give you issue momentum.  Don't let a single one of them endorse Reagan.

5. Once all of this is done, spend the entire time giving policy speeches and barnstorming while keeping your issue knowledge/debating skills level.  Don't bother trying to win the debate against Reagan; just spin it down when he wins.  Put as much spin as you can spare on any and every news event that comes up that has a power level of 3 or more.

6. Two weeks before the election, leak your lower-power scandal if you have one and spin it with a 100% success rate for all it's worth until a week before the election or until it dies.  Stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the scandal.

7. One week before the election, leak your power 9 scandal and spin, spin, spin, spin with a 100% success rate.  Again, stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the power 9 scandal.  It's extremely important that the scandal stay with a high power and at the top of the headlines for the entire remaining duration of the campaign.

8. Three days before the election, set up your four ads to run in all 50 states.

9. Pray to God for mercy on election night. Smiley

Okay, thanks. Perhaps I will try it... as soon as I have the time for it. Wink
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« Reply #171 on: April 12, 2005, 12:17:57 pm »



Almost managed to get Clinton in the end this time, but somehow the scandal on him just wouldn't stick. Sad

Bush: 29%, 143 EVs
Clinton: 38%, 244 EVs
Perot: 31%, 151 EVs

I came very close in several states, especially Alaska, Oregon, Kansas and Missouri. Clinton's win in Kansas was due to the fact that I demolished Bush there with negative campaigning (27.5% in Kansas for a Republican...ouch).

Once again, Vermont was Bush's weakest state giving him an abysmal 14.7%. In DC Bush got only 5.7%. For Clinton it was South Dakota, 16.7%. My worse was Alabama where I got 12%. 
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« Reply #172 on: April 12, 2005, 01:43:53 pm »



Hehe...I got bored and decided to play with dynamism on. Had forgot how easy that makes it...I had a constant of 13% until it was like 2 weeks left (I had too little support to participate in the first two debates). I then surged 8 points to 21%, won the third debate. Clinton had been hit with scandals previously and was pretty much out at this stage, Bush was the leading candidate. I got a power 9 scandal on him, another power 9 scandal came along on him. These two got spun for the rest of the campaign, lowering his momentum to about -400 with Clinton at -100 and me at about +75. In the last poll I had gained 8% and 216 EVs getting me to 31% and 256 EVs. On election day it was a blow-out. Clinton and Bush both lost about 50 EVs each from the day before the election to election day.

Perot: 44%, 370 EVs
Clinton: 29%, 107 EVs
Bush: 26%, 61 EVs

Best states:
Perot: Washington, 67.3%
Clinton: Arkansas, 64.5% (this is the only time it's not DC!)
Bush: Louisiana, 50.7%

Worse states:
Perot: Arkansas, 14.7%
Clinton: Utah, 11.1%
Bush: Massachusetts, 12.7% (DC, 4.6%)

Closest states:
Iowa: CLinton beats Perot 39%-36.8%
Virginia: Bush beats Perot 42.8%-40.6%

I'd like to have it noted that I lost DC to Clinton 41.8%-53.4%, which I consider to be very good. Smiley
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« Reply #173 on: April 12, 2005, 04:17:22 pm »

Quiz: What election and what kind of scenario is this supposed to be? Wink
Hint: A rather exotic one. Cheesy


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« Reply #174 on: April 13, 2005, 08:17:24 pm »

I tried to see how much of a blowout against Mondale I could get as Reagan:



Electoral Vote
Reagan: 538
Mondale: 0

Popular Vote
Reagan: 86% (85,970,677)
Mondale: 13% (13,735,135)

Best States
Reagan - Utah
Reagan:  100.0% (642,728)
Mondale:  0.0% (1) !!!

Mondale - Washington, D.C.
Reagan:  61.9% (173,790)
Mondale:  38.0%  !!! (106,716)
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