President Forever results thread...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

P4E is still very much a thing?  I'd figured this thread was just for results from old versions.  Huh.  I remember when I first discovered that in mid-2004.  I made a decent 1972 scenario for P4E + Primaries (although since you can't set it up to fully adjust for the differences in how someone like Wallace would perform in some states compared to someone like McGovern, I had to try to guesstimate a reasonable middle ground) as well as a modified 1964 scenario (to account for George Wallace's candidacy when he challenged Johnson).  I wasn't sure how to post them though *shrug*  

I never could get into any of the subsequent versions and forgot about it (which is just as well because I haven't really had time for it the past few years).  In some ways P4E 2004 was probably my favorite (maybe because it was the first version I discovered).  I wish there was a way to set it so that each GE turn covered a week like with the primaries.  It'd speed things up a little and the length was probably one of the reasons I didn't play the game more often.  

[NeverAgain]

✓ Lewis Cass (ND - MI)/Daniel Dickenson (D - NY) 138 EV

William Seward (R - NY)/Benjamin Wade (R - OH) 62 EV

John C. Breckinridge (SD - KY)/Joseph Lane (SD - NY) 78 EV

Millard Fillmore (CU - NY)/William Goggin (CU - VA) 27 EV

No one had a majority, but I (Cass) had enough congressional seats to win. I avoided the Civil War at least until 1864... I may make this a TL at some point, fun game.

[SATW]

I did horrible w/ Perot with ad-swamping hahah. i suck at third party runs. gonna try it again.

[Kingpoleon]

482: Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Rep. Millicent Fenwick(R-NJ) - 45.6%
49: Pres. James Carter(D-GA)/Sen. Russell Long(D-LA) - 36.9%
7: Rep. John B. Anderson(I-IL)/Sen. Mike Gravel(I-AK) - 17.5%

Focused all my ads on AK and HI, as this is mostly a practice run. Now that I get the basics of how to run, I think I can go for an Easy run and do this:

From there, I'll come up with a plausible story for the House to elect me.

[SATW]

when you all are ad-swamping how many ad's per turn are we talking? i've been doing like 4-5 per turn for my targeted states and then i'd do stump speeches and rallies each turn in those states and am still losing badly in those states.

got 25% in maine on my last go
24% in montana
19% in kansas
16% in arizona

[NeverAgain]

when you all are ad-swamping how many ad's per turn are we talking? i've been doing like 4-5 per turn for my targeted states and then i'd do stump speeches and rallies each turn in those states and am still losing badly in those states.

got 25% in maine on my last go
24% in montana
19% in kansas
16% in arizona

What ads are you using? Television? I usually ramp up mass newspaper ad production on a researched insight issue and then usually get about 80-100 ad power in the targeted state(s). I use Television rarely due to their incredulous expense and little power addition. Hope this helps!

[SATW]

when you all are ad-swamping how many ad's per turn are we talking? i've been doing like 4-5 per turn for my targeted states and then i'd do stump speeches and rallies each turn in those states and am still losing badly in those states.

got 25% in maine on my last go
24% in montana
19% in kansas
16% in arizona

What ads are you using? Television? I usually ramp up mass newspaper ad production on a researched insight issue and then usually get about 80-100 ad power in the targeted state(s). I use Television rarely due to their incredulous expense and little power addition. Hope this helps!

Ah, that would explain it! Thanks

[Slow Learner]

Played the 2012 Republican Primaries as Bob Riley. Even though I won Iowa and South Carolina, a poor Super Tuesday performance left me in third for the rest of the race. This was the original map. Interestingly, all of the major contenders were Governors (plus, Gary Johnson was doing rather well for a while).

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Governor Rick Perry (R-TX)
Former Governor Bob Riley (R-AL)

But...for some reason Perry dropped out. This was the map after that.

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Former Governor Bob Riley (R-AL)

[Slow Learner]

This is what happened in the GE (If you're wondering about Clinton, I switched Obama off). I basically didn't campaign at all, since I had a hefty lead through-out.

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Rick Scott (R-FL) - 41.8%, 316 Electoral Votes
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) - 35.3%, 222 Electoral Votes
Actress Rosanne Barr (G-CA)/Ms. Cheri Honkala (G-PA) - 16.5%
Others (Libertarian, Constitution) - 6.4%

Barr almost won Vermont.

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I have spoken with God, and he has abandoned us.

Jill Stein won Rhode Island, Donald Trump won Ohio.

Full results:

Jeb Bush/Kelly Ayotte (REP): 32.2%, 280 EV
Michael Bloomberg/Lincoln Chafee (BLOOMBERG): 11.5%, 93 EV
Jim Webb/Angus King (WEBB): 10.7%, 80 EV
Hillary Clinton/Elizabeth Warren (DEM): 21.5%, 63 EV
Donald Trump/Jeff Sessions (TRUMP): 10.4%, 18 EV
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala (GRN): 4.2%, 4 EV
Bernie Sanders/Keith Ellison (SANDERS): 6%, 0 EV
Jesse Ventura/Jim Gray (LIB): 3.3%, 0 EV

[PaperKooper]

Senator Marco Rubio/Governor Nikki Haley - 47.2%, 378 Electoral Votes
Senator Bernie Sanders/Secretary Julian Castro - 43.5%, 160 Electoral Votes
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Former Secretary Charles Hagel - 5.1%
Former Governor Gary Johnson/Mr. Jim Gray - 2.2%
Dr. Jill Stein/Ms. Cheri Honkala - 2.0%

I led throughout the campaign and swept the swing states of New Hampshire, Oregon, Nevada, and New Mexico.  I won New York thanks to Bloomberg getting 17.8% there and Pennsylvania thanks to Johnson getting 7.7% there.  Bloomberg's best state was New York, Stein's was 8.1% in Washington and Michigan, and Johnson's was 9.8% in Minnesota.  

[rpryor03]

Ms. Carly Fiorina (CA)/Gov. Scott Walker (WI) - 255 EV, 35.7% PV
Fmr. Sen. Jim Webb (VA)/Fmr. Mayor Michael Bloomberg (NY) - 252 EV, 22.9% PV
Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley (MD)/Sec. Julian Castro (TX) - 17 EV, 18.0% PV
Mr. Donald Trump (NY)/Sen. Jeff Sessions - 11 EV, 9.8% PV
Sen. Bernie Sanders (VT)/Rep. Keith Ellison (MN) - 3 EV, 5.9% PV
Ms. Jill Stein (MA)/Ms. Cheri Honkala (PA) - 0 EV, 4.1% PV
Fmr. Gov Gary Johnson (NM)/Mr. Jim Gray (CA) - 0 EV, 3.5% PV

Best and Worst States:
Candidate - Best, Worst
Fiorina - Nevada, New Mexico
Webb - New Jersey, New Hampshire
O'Malley - DC, New Mexico
Trump - Arizona, Texas
Sanders - Vermont, Colorado
Stein - New Mexico, Nevada
Johnson - New Mexico, Michigan/Oklahoma

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Got another strange map.

Marco Rubio/Tim Scott (24.6%, 139 EV)
Hillary Clinton/Martin O'Malley (20.8%, 123 EV)
Donald Trump/Ted Cruz (15.1%, 91 EV)
Jim Webb/Greg Orman (13.5%, 106 EV)
Michael Bloomberg/Angus King (13%, 75 EV)
Bernie Sanders/Keith Ellison (6%, 4 EV)
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala (3.4%)
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (3%)

[PaperKooper]

Senator Marco Rubio/Governor Scott Walker - 50.2%, 326 Electoral Votes
Fmr. Secretary Hillary Clinton/Secretary Julian Castro - 49.8%, 212 Electoral Votes

This was an computer versus computer game. 

Closest states:
Florida 0.0012%
Nevada 0.6%
Oregon 0.8%
Indiana 1.0%
Colorado 2.0%
Minnesota 2.2%
Ohio 2.4%
Iowa 2.8%
Washington 3.4%
Tennessee 4.2%
North Carolina 4.4%
New Hampshire 4.6%

Rubio won every state that was closer than New Hampshire (4.6%)

[CatoMinor]

2006 Santos (D-TX) vs Vinick (R-CA)

I played as Vinick and had an easy times holding my base states and keeping Santos on the defensive. If the undecided didn't break off in favor of Santos I would have won CT and NY which both ended up being 50-48. The only state undecideds swung in my favor for an upset win was in Texas which I won 51-48.

Over all I won 53-46-

[Mike Thick]

I played as Johnson (but didn't campaign) in a scenario where Romney ran and Trump stayed out, with a handful of candidates adjusted accordingly. Carson wound up winning the Republican nod after winning Iowa but losing South Carolina and New Hampshire to Kasich and Nevada to Cruz. Romney won a handful of states, including Georgia, Cruz won Texas, Oklahoma, and Massachusetts, and Kasich won only Ohio. Meanwhile, Clinton won every state and cruised to the nomination. Carson picked Tim Pawlenty as his veep, and Clinton picked O'Malley. Ultimately, it was the most lopsided landslide I've ever seen in the game.

Hillary Clinton/Martin O'Malley: 74.5%, 538 EVs
Ben Carson/Tim Pawlenty: 24.5%, 0 EVs
Gary Johnson/Jim Gray: 1%, 0 EVs
Carson's best state was Kansas, where Clinton won only [sic] 55% of the vote. Clinton nearly broke 90% in Massachusetts, and Carson nearly fell below 3% in D.C.. Although I didn't campaign, I won about 11% in New Mexico, which is probably why Clinton was under 70% in the state. The downballot stuff for Republicans must have been mind-bogglingly awful: it's hard to imagine them holding more than a handful of House and Senate seats in such a crushing defeat.

I played this for a while a few months ago, and took a break. It was weird then. It's far weirder now.

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I'm going to have nightmares about that map.

[Kingpoleon]

279: Gov. Thomas Dewey(R-NY)/Sen. John Bricker(R-OH)
188: Vice Pres. John Nance Garner(D-TX)/Sen. Harry Truman(D-MO)
64: Fmr. Gov. Huey Long(People's-LA)/Sen. Burton Wheeler(P-MT)

[Mike Thick]

So, in the 2012 scenario I turned Christie and Clinton on and let the computer do the work. It ended up being a heavily contested primary between Romney, Christie, and Gingrich all the way through. Christie took Iowa, Gingrich New Hampshire and Nevada, Paul South Carolina (for whatever reason), and Romney Florida. A few months out, it looked like there would be a brokered convention. However, Gingrich dropped out and endorsed Christie just before the end of the primary season, giving him just enough delegates to go over the line. He picked Bob McDonnell as his running mate.

Clinton led Obama in a few southern states and Nevada, but momentum from wins in New Hampshire and Iowa gave him a narrow win in the Silver State, and he easily won renomination.

Christie started the general in a deep hole (presumably due to the contentious primary) and I was surprised to see him trailing Obama in several Southern and Southwestern states. He did relatively well in the debates, but it wasn't enough.

President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden: 56.9%, 379 EVs
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie/Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell: 41.6%, 159 EVs
Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson/Mr. Jim Gray: 1.2%, 0 EVs

I won't include percentages by state, but Obama won about 90% in Tennessee and Christie won about 70% in Florida. A last-minute momentum surge game Christie New Jersey and Wisconsin, but he still lost in a landslide/near landslide. Obama also cane within a few thousandvotes of winning Georgia. My best state was, strangely, North Carolina, where I got 2% to Christie's 13% and Obama's 85%.

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Put the most moderate Democratic ticket possible against the most moderate Republican ticket possible.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA)/Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO) - 49.9%, 290 EV
Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. (R-UT)/Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 49.6%, 248 EV

States within 5%:

New Jersey
New Mexico
Wisconsin
Nevada

States within 10%:

Colorado
Michigan
New Hampshire
Ohio
Arizona
Iowa
Maine
North Carolina
Oregon

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And now for the most liberal Democratic ticket against the most conservative Republican ticket.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 318 EV, 51.9%
Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) - 220 EV, 47.7%

States within 5%:

Colorado
Maine
Nevada (decided by less than 1,500 votes)
New Mexico
Washington
Montana
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Wisconsin

States within 10%:

Florida
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
Pennsylvania
Arizona
Georgia
Missouri
South Dakota

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Bizarre... I haven't played for a while.

I ran as my character in the 2008 Dem primaries. I won IA, NH, NV and Obama won SC. Clinton won a few during Super Tuesday, but the writing was on the wall, and she withdrew and endorsed me before mini-Tuesday (OH, TX, VT and RI) which I swept.  But Obama would not give up.

I secured the nomination after winning North Carolina. I then started running national ads and the Dem numbers jumped. However, Obama didn't withdraw and refused anything short of the VP slot... so it seemed.

So I went to the convention with Obama still there... I chose Bill Richardson. The following week, the GOP chose Romney (who had secured the nomination in April) and he chose Giuliani as his running mate. Probably due to the contested nature of the Dem convention, we went through a bad patch.

Our numbers collapsed.

I got into a trough that I couldn't get out of, hit with scandals and just needed to dump money all over the shop. I picked up across the mid-west and the upper south in the last two weeks and I slipped on the west coast.

I surged in the national polls from being down 45-49 to drawing almost even 47-48.

This was the end...

I spent too much time and money in states like TX which I only lost by 2% and yes, I lost CA 1.4%

284 EV - 49.5%
254 EV - 50.5%

Romney only cracked 60% in AL and UT but I did it in MA, CT and RI. I also won VA and TN by a greater margin that I did OR, WA, PA, WI and MI.

[PaperKooper]

Businessman Rocky De La Fuente/Professor Larry Lessig - 51.6%, 347 Electoral Votes
Former Commissioner Mark Everson/Former Governor Jim Gilmore - 48.4%, 191 Electoral Votes

The terrorist attack at the debate scenario was a easy win for the centrist De La Fuente.  

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So I created a scenario where none of the actual candidates were running. Instead, the following candidates ran:

Democratic

Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO)
Governor Deval Patrick (D-MA)
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)
Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)

Republican

Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)
Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Senator John Thune (R-SD)
Ambassador Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)
Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)
Governor Mike Pence (R-IN)
Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV)

Will post primary maps soon.

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I don't know how to explain this...

Joe Biden/Amy Klobuchar - 50.2%, 266 EVs
Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio - 44.3%, 272 EVs

Both Johnson and Stein got around 3% of the vote.