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« Reply #475 on: December 20, 2005, 10:15:26 pm »
« edited: December 20, 2005, 10:17:53 pm by Senator Gabu »

1912 - Wilson vs. Taft vs. Roosevelt (me) vs. Debs

This election turned out to be one of the nastiest elections ever in American history.  Roosevelt's entire campaign was basically "Wilson sucks", "Taft sucks", and "Debs sucks".  Every single campaign speech made by Roosevelt was, without fail, bashing Wilson.  The only positive thing released about Roosevelt himself was a single, solitary ad that Roosevelt ran for two days at the midpoint of the election in 25 states and then for another two days in all 50 states.

By a few days before the election, the newspapers looked like this:



...and the state of the country looked like this:



Note the momenta of the candidates.

Roosevelt eventually turned the tide through a 2-day 50-state ad blitz right at the end, resulting in the following results:



Theodore Roosevelt - 484 EVs - 55% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 18 EVs - 17% PV
Eugene Debs - 17 EVs - 14% PV
William Taft - 12 EVs - 12% PV

Individual candidate maps:

Wilson



Taft



Roosevelt



Debs



No, I really cannot explain Alabama for the life of me either.
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« Reply #476 on: December 21, 2005, 05:47:04 am »

1980 - Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson (me)

Not much to say other than that I WON SOME STATES AS ANDERSON!!!!!!



Ronald Reagan - 289 EVs - 44% PV
Jimmy Carter - 230 EVs - 34% PV
John Anderson - 19 EVs - 20% PV

I'm going to see if I can further refine the technique I'm developing for playing as third-party candidates with very little money.
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« Reply #477 on: December 21, 2005, 07:30:02 am »
« Edited: December 21, 2005, 07:32:34 am by Senator Gabu »

2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me)

I think Nader creamed his pants while watching the results of this election come in.



George W. Bush - 269 EVs - 40% PV
Al Gore - 243 EVs - 39% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 20% PV

Yep, no electoral majority due to Nader's candidacy.

Congress elected Bush.

I shudder to think about what the election's fallout would be if this actually happened in reality.
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« Reply #478 on: December 21, 2005, 04:11:52 pm »

2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me)

I think Nader creamed his pants while watching the results of this election come in.



George W. Bush - 269 EVs - 40% PV
Al Gore - 243 EVs - 39% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 20% PV

Yep, no electoral majority due to Nader's candidacy.

Congress elected Bush.

I shudder to think about what the election's fallout would be if this actually happened in reality.

If NY voted Bush and OK voted Gore in reality, I think there would be bigger fallout.
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« Reply #479 on: December 21, 2005, 08:16:03 pm »

If NY voted Bush and OK voted Gore in reality, I think there would be bigger fallout.

Haha, true enough. Cheesy
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« Reply #480 on: December 21, 2005, 10:29:14 pm »

2004 - Kerry vs. Bush vs. Badnarik (me)

This one's for all of the libertarians out there.



George W. Bush - 277 EVs - 47% PV
John Kerry - 257 EVs - 41% PV
Michael Badnarik - 4 EVs - 11% PV

I bet you wish this was real. Wink
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« Reply #481 on: December 22, 2005, 12:18:54 am »

I doubt this is even possible in real life....

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I didn't even have dynamism on. I got two scandals(power 9's on integrity and leadership), and ran ads for one day each when I needed to regain momentum, won all three debates, and finished with a 4 day ad blitz.

Wow, maybe I'll have to reconsider Feingold after all. Wink
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« Reply #482 on: December 24, 2005, 05:37:46 am »

1789 - Washington vs. Adams (me)



George Washington - 3 EVs - 38% PV
John Adams - 66 EVs - 61% PV

Though a renowned hero in the war, when election by popular vote is brought in earlier than expected, America decides to say "up yours" to Washington and elects John Adams as its first president.
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« Reply #483 on: December 26, 2005, 08:33:20 pm »



Mark Warner - 406 EV's - 54%
Rick Santorum - 132 EV's - 46%

I have no idea how this happened.  I was set for a usual clean sweep of the electoral college, and then suddenly Rick Santorum won California.  It scared the jeebers out of me.
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« Reply #484 on: December 29, 2005, 09:33:24 pm »



lol nader
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« Reply #485 on: December 29, 2005, 09:35:00 pm »



lol nader

Was that scenario edited at all, by any chance? Tongue
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« Reply #486 on: December 29, 2005, 09:51:07 pm »

Nah, I just played as both Bush and Kerry, and changed their issue stances every couple of days Grin
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« Reply #487 on: December 29, 2005, 10:57:05 pm »
« Edited: December 29, 2005, 11:00:25 pm by Senator Gabu »

1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Breckinridge vs. Douglas vs. Bell

I really, really tried to crack a Southern state as Lincoln.  I really did.  But it just can't be done.  I give up.  This is the best I can do:



Abraham Lincoln - 186 EVs - 52% PV
John Breckinridge - 90 EVs - 15% PV
John Bell - 27 EVs - 11% PV
Stephen Douglas - 0 EVs - 19% PV

The only states I could have maybe picked off had I had more luck would have been Maryland, Missouri, and Virginia.  I didn't get over 30% in any other state, save for South Carolina, in which I got 30.1%, but Breckinridge got 56.3% in that state.
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« Reply #488 on: December 29, 2005, 11:02:38 pm »

Maybe you should try starting with Bell and work your way up?  Or something?



I dunno, I've never tried playing as Lincoln before.
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« Reply #489 on: December 30, 2005, 12:07:48 am »

Maybe you should try starting with Bell and work your way up?  Or something?

The main problem with Lincoln is that he starts with, like, close to 0% in most Southern states.  My campaign consistently raises that by around 20-30%, but you just don't have enough time to get it high enough to win any states.
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« Reply #490 on: December 30, 2005, 12:57:56 am »

Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.
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« Reply #491 on: December 30, 2005, 01:08:33 am »

Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

I've never beat Lincoln in the 1860 scenario. During the campaign things looked hopeful but it always pans out with Lincoln winning out.
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« Reply #492 on: December 30, 2005, 01:22:54 am »

HAHAHAHA I DID IT

I DID IT

1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Breckinridge vs. Douglas vs. Bell



Abraham Lincoln - 190 EVs - 57% PV
John Bell - 42 EVs - 9% PV
Stephen Douglas - 36 EVs - 20% PV
John Breckinridge - 35 EVs - 12% PV

And now, having accomplished that, I will now attempt to win as Breckinridge, just for StatesRights. Smiley
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« Reply #493 on: December 30, 2005, 02:11:01 am »
« Edited: December 30, 2005, 05:25:13 am by Senator Gabu »

i think i did it

1860 - Lincoln vs. Breckenridge (me) vs. Douglas vs. Bell



John Breckenridge - 298 EVs - 48% PV
Abraham Lincoln - 5 EVs - 25% PV
Stephen Douglas - 0 EVs - 16% PV
John Bell - 0 EVs - 9% PV

I couldn't quite breach the Republican fortress of Vermont.

If you want to try this yourself, here's what my strategy was:

1. Immediately begin researching a scandal on anyone.

2. Use all of your remaining energy to get endorsed by every organization that will give you a momentum boost.

3. Make constant ads that take three days to complete following this pattern:

   a. Leadership - Breckenridge
   b. Experience - Breckenridge
   c. Leadership - Attacking Bell
   d. Leadership - Breckenridge
   e. Leadership - Attacking Lincoln
   f. Experience - Breckenridge
   g. Leadership - Attacking Douglas
   h. Repeat d-g until the end of the campaign.  If Bell starts to get uppity, insert a Bell attack ad and then continue.

The moment an ad is ready, run it for the full seven days in every state.

4. The moment a scandal becomes available, leak it and spin it for all it's worth.  If someone else leaks a scandal on someone who isn't you, spin that one for all it's worth.  Do everything in your power to get a strong scandal on someone else at the top of headlines.  Make absolutely sure you are not the first person to get hit by a scandal.  If you are, you're probably screwed, because the other three will inevitably spin it up and put you into a freefall.  If you can get a large scandal on top of the headlines, the chances of you being hurt by a scandal go way down, as you can usually then spin it down unhindered (the people nearly always spin the biggest scandal, I've noticed).

5. Pray.
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« Reply #494 on: December 30, 2005, 12:30:47 pm »

Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

No, I'm talking about winning the North with Bell.
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« Reply #495 on: December 30, 2005, 09:43:57 pm »

Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

No, I'm talking about winning the North with Bell.

Oh, I see.

Yeah, that's pretty hard, in that case.  I was ahead in a few northern states with a week and a bit to go, but that damn Lincoln shot me down at the last minute.
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« Reply #496 on: January 02, 2006, 05:44:36 am »

2004 - Kerry vs. Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Badnarik

Winning states as Nader in 2004 is a heck of a lot harder than it is in 2000.  I finally succeeded!



George W. Bush - 321 EVs - 43% PV
John Kerry - 203 EVs - 37% PV
Ralph Nader - 14 EVs - 17% PV
Michael Badnarik - 0 EVs - 2% PV
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« Reply #497 on: January 02, 2006, 06:15:05 am »
« Edited: January 02, 2006, 06:17:06 am by Senator Gabu »

2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Browne

I decided to concentrate all of my efforts onto heavily conservative Bush states in an effort to create a truly ridiculous map.

The effort succeeded more than I thought it would.



Al Gore - 282 EVs - 42% PV
George W. Bush - 230 EVs - 32% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 22% PV
Harry Browne - 0 EVs - 2% PV

Yes, that is a Gore victory in Alaska, Nader victories in Utah and Wyoming, and >50% Nader in Mississippi...

And no, I don't know what the heck happened with Massachusetts.
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« Reply #498 on: January 08, 2006, 05:47:01 pm »

So close, and yet so far...


Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

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« Reply #499 on: January 08, 2006, 06:04:19 pm »
« Edited: January 08, 2006, 08:04:54 pm by Alcon »

Nice game, Joe I-OH avatar user, but wasn't Alaska a bigger victory than the Utah victory?
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