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« Reply #500 on: January 08, 2006, 06:05:52 pm »

Nice game, Joe, but wasn't Alaska a bigger victory than the Utah victory?

Stop blindly assuming a person is someone because of their avatar Wink
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« Reply #501 on: January 08, 2006, 06:31:35 pm »

So close, and yet so far...


Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. Cheesy
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« Reply #502 on: January 08, 2006, 06:38:35 pm »

Arkansas probably would have been much higher for Debs.  It had a very strong progressive labor wing of the Democratic Party that, if Debs had been that popular nation-wide, could have gone for him.
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« Reply #503 on: January 09, 2006, 04:01:39 pm »

So close, and yet so far...


Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. Cheesy
If only this could have really happened. Sad
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« Reply #504 on: January 09, 2006, 05:20:36 pm »

So close, and yet so far...


Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. Cheesy
If only this could have really happened. Sad

Yeah then America would have been ed.
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« Reply #505 on: January 09, 2006, 05:24:46 pm »

So close, and yet so far...


Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. Cheesy
If only this could have really happened. Sad

Yeah then America would have been ed.
I would assume that the word that was censored was "sav"ed. Grin
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« Reply #506 on: January 15, 2006, 02:10:37 pm »

Another colourful map... I call it "1980: Attack of the third-party candidates". Cheesy  I played with both Anderson and Clark and tried to weaken the two major candidates as hard as I could in sort of a coordinated attack. New Jersey was won by Clark, all other "green states" went to Anderson.






Carter
PV: 32%
EV: 253

Reagan
PV: 32%
EV: 234

Anderson
PV: 19%
EV: 34

Clark
PV: 15%
EV: 17

Congress elected Carter President.
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« Reply #507 on: January 17, 2006, 04:01:55 pm »
« Edited: January 17, 2006, 04:50:43 pm by Ted Stevens »

'92:

Clinton - 291 - 44%
Bush - 237 - 40%
Perot (Me) - 10 - 15%
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« Reply #508 on: January 17, 2006, 09:36:32 pm »

A new (and much more successful) attempt at 1992.



Bush: 304 EV, 39%
Perot: 176 EV, 32%
Clinton: 58 EV, 27%

A power-20 scandal doesn't help Clinton.  [And, in conjunction with Perot's usual Southern Malaise, explains the ridiculous results down South].

California (and, as a result, the election), is decided by a knife's edge--9,405-vote difference between me and Bush.  Any little bit of activity on my part would have taken the state and thrown it to the house.

California, Ohio (within 2.5%) and Pennsylvania (within 4%) would give me the election.
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« Reply #509 on: January 18, 2006, 10:03:18 pm »

My semi-successful shot at '92 as Perot



I was still barely trailing (-1-3%) in all of my states with a week left, and I knew what I had to do: Ad crusade, so I owe my electoral victories to it, but beside that, everything was all me. Kiki

Clinton: 303; 38%; 42,070,324

Bush: 218; 39%; 43,035,689

Perot (me): 17; 21%; 23,493,333

Marrou: 0; 1%; 1,107,244

My best state was Alaska (42.7%) Clinton's was DC (73%) and Bush's was Virginia (51.7%)
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« Reply #510 on: January 18, 2006, 10:49:59 pm »

I decided to try my hand at 1992.

1992 - Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot (me)



H. Ross Perot - 493 EVs - 54% PV
George H. W. Bush - 33 EVs - 23% PV
Bill Clinton - 12 EVs - 22% PV

This game isn't even a challenge anymore when playing as candidates who had any sort of chance in real life.

I got 43.4% of the vote in DC.
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« Reply #511 on: January 18, 2006, 11:53:33 pm »

1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan (me)

Just for fun, I decided to play as Reagan.  It wasn't pretty.



Ronald Reagan - 538 EVs - 75% PV
Walter Mondale - 0 EVs - 24% PV
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« Reply #512 on: January 19, 2006, 01:28:12 am »

Gabu,

Can you win as Wallace in '68?
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« Reply #513 on: January 19, 2006, 02:11:39 am »


I tried once and got around 220 electoral votes.  I can certainly try again, if you'd like me to, however. Smiley
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« Reply #514 on: January 19, 2006, 02:54:07 am »

Well, that went well.

1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)



George Wallace - 307 EVs - 42% PV
Hubert Humphrey - 153 EVs - 30% PV
Richard Nixon - 79 EVs - 26% PV

I hope you enjoyed that, States. Smiley
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« Reply #515 on: January 19, 2006, 06:20:20 pm »

Ultimate 2008:

Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%
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« Reply #516 on: January 19, 2006, 06:48:51 pm »

How the hell do you do that Gabu. That's crazy!
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« Reply #517 on: January 19, 2006, 07:02:55 pm »

My try as Faubus in 1952

Stevenson: 271; 48%; 38,148,496
Eisenhower: 260; 45%; 35,901,062
Faubus (me): 0; 5%; 4,127,884
Decker: 0; 0%; 736,739

While I wasnt able to win a state, I did have enough effect to flip a Stevenson victory. (amazing, isnt it?)

My best state: Pennsylvania: 8.9%
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« Reply #518 on: January 19, 2006, 10:26:57 pm »

can someone play me in a past election.. maybe in 1992 as bush....
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« Reply #519 on: January 20, 2006, 01:10:32 am »

Well, that went well.

1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)



George Wallace - 307 EVs - 42% PV
Hubert Humphrey - 153 EVs - 30% PV
Richard Nixon - 79 EVs - 26% PV

I hope you enjoyed that, States. Smiley

What happened in Florida?

Ultimate 2008:

Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%


What in the world is up with Alabama?
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« Reply #520 on: January 20, 2006, 03:31:08 am »
« Edited: January 20, 2006, 03:36:22 am by Senator Gabu »

How the hell do you do that Gabu. That's crazy!

This is my strategy, if you want to try reproducing it:

1. Start researching a leadership scandal for your biggest opponent.  If you succeed, then either start researching one for your next biggest opponent if you have more than one or start researching an integrity scandal for your opponent if not.  Continue researching as many as you can get.  In the second to last week, release the weaker scandal, if you have more than one.  In the last week, release the biggest scandal.  If you somehow manage to get three, release the third with a week and a half to go.

2. Start making ads immediately and aim to have four by about three and a half weeks remaining.  If you have one opponent, make a leadership and experience one both for yourself and attacking your opponent.  If you have two, make the same for yourself, but make two leadership ones, one attacking each of your opponents.  If you have three, make a leadership one for you and leadership ones attacking all three of your opponents.  Once you're at about three and a half weeks to go, run all four ads in twenty-five states, beginning with the first state in which the difference is less than +10 and going on down the list until you've reached twenty-five.  Run the ads until you've used half of your money (keep more than half if running it for one extra day will take it to less than half).  Halt the ads.  Then, in the last week, set the ads to twenty-five states again according to the same criteria and calculate how many days you can run them for without running out of money.  Run it when you have that many days plus one remaining.  Then, with one day to go, run the ads in all fifty states.  If you're not at least fifteen million dollars in debt the next day, you didn't do the ad stuff right (in 2004, that is - augment this for the year you're in).

3. Do absolutely nothing with your CPs for the first few days until you've gotten endorsements from every single organization that gives you a momentum boost.

4. Spin with a 100% success rate (or the closest you can get) absolutely any negative news story on your opponent power 3 or higher.

5. If you have at least 3 CPs free on any given turn, use them to attack the opponent with the highest momentum on whatever is the hottest topic of the day.  Don't bother making any positive speeches.  Negative speeches have at least twice as much likelihood of making the news.

The basic idea is to start off with a bang to get yourself some early momentum, then blast the place with an ad blitz for a short while, which will handily solidify all of the close states leaning towards you and slice off all of the close states leaning away from you.  Then in the last week, the same thing occurs, and then the 50-state ad blitz gets you huge momentum nationwide, which can often produce a surprisingly strong result.


Dunno.  Both candidates performed better there than anywhere else in the South.

I could also ask why the heck Massachusetts decided to vote for Wallace. Smiley
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« Reply #521 on: January 21, 2006, 03:27:07 pm »

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« Reply #522 on: January 21, 2006, 07:37:46 pm »

2004:

Johnson (GOP) - 129 - 30%
Williams (DEM) - 3 - 21%
Smith (ME IND) - 406 - 47%

Ok so I made Johnson a terrible (all 1s) extreme (all right) right-winger.
Williams a terrible (all 1s) extreme (all left) left-winger.
Smith a wonderful (all 5s) extreme (all centrist) centrist.

I used Gabu's method and it worked wonders. Thanks a ton.

I hope people understand what I wrote whenever I was talking about all right and left.
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« Reply #523 on: January 21, 2006, 10:53:55 pm »

I used Gabu's method and it worked wonders. Thanks a ton.

Glad to hear I have my first satisfied customer. Smiley
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« Reply #524 on: January 21, 2006, 11:08:27 pm »

1960 - Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon

This one was fun.



John F. Kennedy - 507 EVs - 69% PV
Richard Nixon - 30 EVs - 29% PV
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