President Forever results thread...

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1960 - Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon

This one was fun.



John F. Kennedy - 507 EVs - 69% PV
Richard Nixon - 30 EVs - 29% PV

What did you do to piss off Mayor Daley? Joking.

[Sarnstrom]

I was inspired. Unfortunately, this election was rather uninspiring.

Sam Brownback/Rick Santorum
Me - John Lynch/Russ Feingold
Michael Badnarik/Barry Hess
Pat LaMarche/Matt Gonzalez

Do you like that scenario?....I made it.

[Gabu]

I decided to download that scenario of Sarnstrom's.

2008 - Clinton (me) vs. Giuliani

You have no chance to survive make your time.



Hillary Clinton - 538 EVs - 66% PV
Rudy Giuliani - 0 EVs - 33% PV

Clinton got 92.2% of the vote in DC.  The closest state was Alabama, which Clinton won 52.2%-47.7%.

[Gabu]

What did you do to piss off Mayor Daley? Joking.

I don't know.   I found it kind of ironic that one of the states pivotal to Kennedy's win in real life voted against him in a gigantic landslide...

[Alcon]

I decided to download that scenario of Sarnstrom's.

2008 - Clinton (me) vs. Giuliani

You have no chance to survive make your time.



Hillary Clinton - 538 EVs - 66% PV
Rudy Giuliani - 0 EVs - 33% PV

Clinton got 92.2% of the vote in DC.  The closest state was Alabama, which Clinton won 52.2%-47.7%.

HILLARY SMASH

[Gabu]

HILLARY SMASH

RAAAAAAAAAAARGH

[Ronald Reagan]

So I ran as Santorum for the PA Senate Seat versus Casey and some third party candidates. Results:

Santorum (Me) - 51%
Casey (Dem) - 41%
Pennachio (Ind) - 4%
Diamond (Lib) - 2%

1912mm:



Taft (ME) - 286 - 36%
Wilson - 118 - 24%
Roosevelt - 72 - 21%
Debs - 55 - 18%

Debs is not an option on the EC Calculator so I just gave the state to the next highest player, but he won Massachusetts, Ohio, and Kentucky.

[nini2287]

Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though

[Colin]

Reagan vs. Clinton vs. Anderson (Me) vs. Clark



Reagan: 28% PV 149 EV
Carter: 35% PV 273 EV
Anderson: 23% PV 116 EV
Clark: 12% PV 0 EV

Best States:

Reagan: Texas 49.3%
Carter: West Virginia 61.4%
Anderson: Ohio 51.7%
Clark: Virginia 32.7%

Worst State:

Reagan: Rhode Island 15.2%
Carter: Colorado 14.0%
Anderson: Mississippi 8.2%
Clark: 0.0% (911)

Oddest State:

New Jersey

Reagan: 22.8%
Carter: 28.4%
Anderson: 28.2%
Clark: 20.4%

Clark had over 30% in three states, Kansas, South Carolina and Virginia and over 20% in 9 states, Colorado, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Missouri, Indiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

[ilikeverin]

Accidentally closed the window before recording anything else, but look how I did as Thurmond Sooooo close and yet so far

[Gustaf]

I wanted to create a super-independent and see how well I could do. To give myself any sort of chance I did this: Gave Mr. John SMith 5s on everything and something like 300 million USD. Then I let Kerry and Bush plunge themselves into the most negative campaign in human history focusing only on tearing each other apart. Both were shocked by severe scandals, the worse being Bush power 20 which dragged on for a long time. Kerry held a brief lead with 300+ EVs after a while, but then lost ground constantly towards the end. On election day:

Bush: 33.5% and 159 EVs
Kerry: 30.51% and 32 EVs
Smith: 35.99% and 347 EVs

Best states:

Bush:
Utah (47.1%)
Idaho (44.8%)
Wyoming (44.7%)
Alabama (43.5%)
Oklahoma (42.9%)

Kerry:
Massachusetts (40.2%)
Rhode Island (40.1%)
Vermont (38%)
Maryland (36%)
New York (36.4%)

Smith:
Arkansas (38.7%)
Tennessee (38.4%)
Lousiana (38.2%)
Illinois (37.9%)
Ohio (37.6%)

[Gabu]

How did you manage to win 347 electoral votes and yet not get over 40% in a single state?

[jokerman]

Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though

This map pretty much proves PresidentForever is worthless beyond one dimensional left-right politics.

[Colin]

Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though

This map pretty much proves PresidentForever is worthless beyond one dimensional left-right politics.

No it's just that in the 2004 scenario the state position on issues, which is used when regionalism is turned on, is way off but if you set it towards more realistic positions, they have the south way too right wing and the Pacific Coast way too left wing, IIRC, then you can get a realistic map. The problems with it are mostly caused by the 80soft guys, and the creators of some of the other scenarios, being rather ignorant of politics.

[George W. Hobbes]

Colin, how'd you fix that problem then?

[Colin]

Colin, how'd you fix that problem then?

I went into the scenarios folder than clicked on the 2004 folder then opened the regional_centers file within the scenario folder. It then opens a text file that includes each state and its position on each issue ranging from 1, far left, to 5, far right.

As an example Alabama originally had Abortion at 3, which is the moderate stance, and free trade at 4, centre-right pro-free trade stance, both of which I thought were wrong. So I made Abortion a 4, only under special circumsatnces, and made free trade a 2, which is about protecting certain industries or something like that, since I thought that they made more sense. You have to go through all the states and do this manually though. If you want me to I can send over a copy of the file for you. It really does make the South more realistic so you don't have Joe Libertarian winning Arkansas.

[Middle-aged Europe]

1948 as Wallace


Red: Truman
Blue: Dewey
Dark Green: Thurmond
Light Green: Wallace





Dewey
PV: 33%
EV: 263

Truman
PV: 29%
EV: 151

Thurmond
PV: 16%
EV: 72

Wallace
PV: 20%
EV: 45


Congress elected Truman

[Middle-aged Europe]

Nader vs. Nolan





Nader (me)
PV: 51%
EV: 270

Nolan
PV: 48%
EV: 268

[Middle-aged Europe]

1992 as Perot ("The Power of Perot" scenario)





Perot
PV: 38%
EV: 310

Clinton
PV: 32%
EV: 114

Bush
PV: 27%
EV: 114

[Speed of Sound]

Had some time on your hands lately, Old Europe?


j/k, they look good. Ive been playing alot lately too, but sadly, havent had anything strange or impressive enough to post recently.

[Gabu]

j/k, they look good. Ive been playing alot lately too, but sadly, havent had anything strange or impressive enough to post recently.

You should post anyway; I like looking at results.

[Gustaf]

I tweaked the 1948 scenario to closer resemble actual results and played as Thurmond to see how it would play out. The way I played was basically focusing on running an anti-Truman campaign in the South to see how far I could get there. I ran out of money towards the end, partially because I foolishly campaigned in my safe states, trying to drive up the base. I haven't managed to fix the vote numbers yet, they're messed up, but:

Dewey: 43%, 283 EVs
Truman: 40% 199 EVs
Thurmond: 19%, 49 EVs
Wallace: 3%, 0 EVs

Closest states:
Tennessee, Truman over Dewey by 0.7%
Georgia, Truman over Thurmond by 1.7%
Pennsylvania, Dewey over Truman by 1.8%

Most other states weren't really close. I got:

Virginia: 42.6%
Louisiana: 64.6%
Alabama: 79.6%
South Carolina: 85.9%
Mississippi: 93.6%

[Gustaf]

How did you manage to win 347 electoral votes and yet not get over 40% in a single state?

Well, that's what happens when you run a focused campaign and have no core constituency. Pushing the Bush+Kerry total below 60% is pretty much impossible, I'm afraid.

Colin, please, please send me that file. I've been noticing the same thing but haven't had the time to fix it.

[Speed of Sound]

1912, I played as Debs




Taft (light red) 18% (10,691,133) 16 electoral

Wilson (dark red) 29% (16,708,805) 181 electoral

Roosevelt (blue) 29% (16,794,170) 182 electoral

Debs (Green) 23% (13,285,073) 152 electoral

Congress elected.............................
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Woodrow Wilson (suprise suprise )

[Bacon King]

Kennedy pwnt



Election of 1960:
Nixon: 509 EV; 56%
Kennedy: 28 EV; 41%
Faubus: 0 EV; 1%

No cheats were used.