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« on: December 13, 2007, 07:03:39 pm »

I narrowly lost both Texas and Florida by narrow margins.

You're kidding. Tongue

I'm probably getting President Forever over the weekend, by the way.
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2007, 07:07:55 pm »

Let me try again:

I narrowly lost...by narrow margins.
You're kidding. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 09:53:27 pm »

I just got the game! W00t!
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 11:06:34 am »

I just got the game! W00t!

I take it you got President Forever + Primaries. You can actually download 1992 and 2000 scenarios to add upon the default 2008 one. Not to mention a 1976 and a 1968 one. Hope you enjoy. Smiley

Where? It says there are no scenarios for PF+P other than 2004 and 2000.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 05:36:08 pm »
« Edited: February 03, 2008, 01:14:32 pm by Führer und Reichskanzler »

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:



Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 06:39:36 pm »

Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is why PF+P often gives crazy results, very high numbers for third party candidates that would never achieve such electoral success. This was bad in the original, where third parties often added up to around 4% or 5% of the vote, but it seems to have gotten worse in the new game.

Peroutka pulled something like 25% in Illinois and Utah. Paul came in 3rd in DC, with 7% of the vote.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 10:51:04 pm »

The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.

Are you serious? In the one game I have played (see above), they got 16.4% combined. It was like the Perot factor all over again.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 12:46:47 am »

Whoa...LaRouche? Vice President? RUN FOR THE HILLS!
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2007, 12:13:25 am »

What's with CA?
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2007, 11:12:39 pm »



I beat Thompson 403-135 in the EC, and won the PV 56.8-43.2.  I lost Kansas by 900 votes, and lost Georgia by 1,379.

But you didn't flip WV or VA? Odd.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2008, 04:22:50 pm »

Here's a result Xahar might like:


Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. Cheesy Who did you play as?
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2008, 04:29:26 pm »

Here's a result Xahar might like:


Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. Cheesy Who did you play as?

Roosevelt.

This is one of those times I wish I had the original version.
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2008, 04:35:40 pm »

Here's a result Xahar might like:


Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. Cheesy Who did you play as?

Roosevelt.

This is one of those times I wish I had the original version.

You know that you can download it for $9.99 right?  I have the original version and PF+P.

Yeah, but I've pretty much exhausted all my gift-recieving capital with my parents until my birthday.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2008, 05:42:20 pm »

I took a page of Xahar’s book and played as Debs:

Roosevelt: 27% PV, 234 EV
Debs: 21% PV, 141 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 133 EV
Taft: 23% PV, 23 EV

Congress elected Wilson, even tough he came in second in the PV and third in the EV, sorry Xahar Tongue

Aww man. Sad
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2008, 07:35:52 pm »

1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)



Wallace: 517 EVs - 56% PV
Nixon: 19 EVs - 23% PV
Humphrey: 3 EVs - 20% PV

lol

AK?
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2008, 01:16:15 pm »

Weird results:

Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:



Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2008, 01:19:16 pm »

Weird results:

Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:



Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2008, 01:29:45 pm »

Weird results:

Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:



Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.

I've never had third parties do that well; they usually combine for around 2%.

On PF+P? Are you kidding?
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2008, 01:34:19 pm »

Weird results:

Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:



Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.

I've never had third parties do that well; they usually combine for around 2%.

On PF+P? Are you kidding?

Not kidding.

Weird. I still can't believe I won TX and OK and lost MI, WV, and NH.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2008, 04:13:43 pm »

AutoUpdate just delivered a 1992 scenario for PF+P. I plan on playing it.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2008, 04:28:40 pm »
« Edited: February 03, 2008, 08:27:48 pm by Führer und Reichskanzler »

AutoUpdate just delivered a 1992 scenario for PF+P. I plan on playing it.

If you go to the page before this one, you'll see a heartbreaking election that the 1992 scenario gave me.

Yeah, I saw that.

Playing as Clinton, this is how the GE situation looks at the beginning of primaries:



Smiley

Two weeks later, the Democrats have leads in MN and IA, Bush leads in VA, IN, MS, and ND (losing AL), and Perot has lost all states but ME.

Headline on January 20:

Clinton Cheated On Hillary, With Flowers!

wtf?

Headline on January 29:

Bush Comfortably Ahead Of Perot In Polls

Uh-oh.

Headline on February 5:

Jerry Brown's Disturbing Behavior: Is He Crazy?

LOL

I beat Tsongas 1970 to 1437. On to the GE!

Tickets:
George Bush/Pete Wilson (Dump Quayle?)
Bill Clinton/Lloyd Bentsen (We are going to OWN the South!)
Ross Perot/Pat Choate (Not sure either.)

September 1:

Not particularly optimistic.

Headlines on September 11:

Clinton Scandal!!!
Clinton Scandal!!!
Clinton Scandal!!!

That's right, three.

September 14, feeling better:



Texas helps.

September 20:

The San Francisco Chronicle and San Jose Mercury News just endorsed Bush. I'm confused.

September 28:



It's over.

October 6, if the election happened today:



267-241-30

Election night; Bush has won.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2008, 09:27:05 pm »

Can we get a map?

Soon.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2008, 06:32:04 pm »

Still waiting for that map...

It's on my home computer. I'll get it on about the time you go (or at least, should go) to bed. Sorry.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2008, 07:00:17 pm »

What about that map?

Due to unforseen circmstances (dentist's appoinment yesterday), I was unable to post the map. You'll have to get up in the middle of the night (which, seemingly, is nothing unusual for you) to see it. Sorry. Sad
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2008, 10:50:59 pm »

Sorry. My computer got messed, up, and therefor no results will be forthcoming...

I lost IL. It was that ugly.
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