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« on: May 07, 2009, 03:48:42 pm »

Oh boy! I've been playing the demo for President Forever for the past few days. The game should come in the mail tomorrow. I'll probably be the biggest addict to it ever! What sucks so much about the demo is that it stops you, right as you are really starting to gain momentum. I've saved it a couple times, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to load them once I download the software.
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 04:30:09 pm »

Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.

An amazing game. Only a political geek would love it though. I'm actually playing it now, still on demo though. (1 more day! Smiley) I'm Bill Richardson, running against Joe Biden. in the Democratic primaries.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2009, 02:43:33 pm »

I can't seem to drum up enough support as an Independant. How did you manage to get 4.8%???
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2009, 03:50:35 pm »

I can't seem to drum up enough support as an Independant. How did you manage to get 4.8%???
All I usually do is put footsoldier after footsoldier in a number of key states(I usually try to target five states and try to get 5 footsoldiers in each) and also when I can get it in I would do barnstorming, etc to continue and win over and get some acceleration in polls. Take the Libertarian ticket I ran as, I got a little over 20% in TX and OK, I nearly got 20% in AK, got a little over 30% in KS and got 11% in MO. So to simplify, target five states(have a big one in your sights so that can ramp up your national popular vote, mix the other four with medium and small states if you wish and target those repeatably to also help out in the national popular vote). But remember, the Democratic and Republican candidates also matter, so does just targeting only small states(EX: I ran as Nader in '04 and was only able to target two states but I targeted CT and ME and got 18% and 10% in those states but only got 0.5% nationally)

Yes this was very long but I hope that some of this helps. Smiley

Ahh
Thank you very much. I'll give it another go in a bit Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 12:28:35 pm »

Well, I just finished my first game, as Mitt Romney. Smiley I actually did a lot better than final private polls showed. I was down by 8 points, and ended up only losing by 2.5 points. Louisiana was the only suprise. I trailed in Virginia and Colorado the whole way, but a final day push won it. I wasn't really that close to winning. Nevada, Iowa, and Wisconsin all barely went Democrat, but that didn't push me over. I lost Ohio and Louisiana by 9 points, and Michigan by 7.
Oh well, I'll get `em next time!.

Romney/Palin : 56,512,375  48.3%
Richardson/Clark: 60,552,194 51.7%

Closest States: Iowa, Nevada, Wisconson, Virginia, Colorado, Arkansas

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 04:25:35 pm »

I hate to spam this up, but I won for the first time.. Smiley

Bahney(me)/Romney: 103,194,260 52.3%              391 EV's
Kucinich/Dodd:            92,157,951   46.7%              147 EV's

Closest States: California, Ohio, Pennyslvania, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconson, New Hampshire.

Irony: I didn't spend a dime in CA, or even barnstorm there. I was trailing by 14 points on election day.

(Doing PF colors)

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2009, 04:37:27 pm »


It got way too confusing since they were the exact opposite. I will admit, I'm so used to seeing Blue as Republican that the map looks kinda weird.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 03:13:24 pm »

Well, I just completed an exciting game, defeating Hillary Clinton with Romney.  After barely edging out Giuliani in the primaries, I chose him as my VP, while Clinton chose Sebelius. Neither of us ever gained a lead over 2% in national polls. The economy tanked in mid-October. My campaign ran out of money at the end. Extremely close. I was on the tip of my chair the whole way.

Close State Results:
Louisiana: Romney wins by 18,000 votes
Ohio: Romney wins by 63,000 votes

Pennyslvania: Clinton wins by 20,000 votes
Wisconsin: Clinton wins by 39,000 votes

Colorado: Romney wins by 5,000 votes
Nevada: Romney wins by 9,000 votes
New Mexico: Romney wins by 17,000 votes.

In a way, I only won by about 5,000 votes in Colorado, because if it had gone for Hillary, it would have been a tie. I don't know how PF determines a winner in a tie.
(Romney wins over 75% of the Utah vote)

National Popular Vote:
Romney/Giuliani:  98,276,362   50.3%
Clinton/Sebelius: 97,037,943    49.7%

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2009, 03:06:25 pm »

The game has some interesting twists. Louisiana is always extremely close, and California is winnable for a Republican in the `08 scenario.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 05:54:16 pm »
« Edited: May 13, 2009, 06:00:21 pm by Romney/Hagel`12 »

I just ran a pretty intense election. Fred Thompson should have won the Republican primaries in real life. He was actually a pretty good candidate.

Thompson/McCain: 99,030,069   50.7%
Edwards/Kerry: 96,284,236        49.3%

Polls going into election Day:


Final Results:


Closest States:
Nevada-Thompson wins by 434 votes
Wisconsin-Thompson wins by 10,000 votes
New Hampshire: Edwards wins by 15,000 votes

Results are shockingly similar to the 2004 election.
(Another interesting this is, I never led in the National Popular vote, or the Electoral Vote, once during the campaign)
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 10:14:22 am »
« Edited: May 16, 2009, 10:16:33 am by Romney/Hagel`12 »

An interesting game.
I was Brownback. The game has a weird glitch to where Ron Paul wins a state if he has more than 3% there. That made me lose to Thompson. But, I got Paul's endorsement and his delegate, so I won by 7 delegates, I believe.

Brownback/Pawlenty: 107,227,933   54.6%
Clinton/Feingold:          87,362,401    44.5%
Barr/Root:                      1,745,242         .9%

Future Historians would describe this election as "tricky"

         

Interesting State Results:
California-Brownback wins by 1.5 million vote (54-44%)
Washington-Brownback wins by 600,000 (57-41%)
District of Columbia-Clinton wins by 150,000 (66-33%)
(Massachusetts and Vermont were both toss-up states)
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2009, 02:04:06 pm »

2004 Scenario...
Mosely-Braun/Bush: 44,292,659
Powell/Rice: 50,804,781

I was Braun. I barely campaigned, and it was still somewhat close.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 06:35:30 pm »

2008 scenario...
Bayh/Clinton: 51.5%
Romney/Giuliani: 47.1%
Barr/Root: 1.4%

I ran Bayh more as a Centrist. A 4.4, I believe. Barr had a good showing, and was able to pick up 5% in several states. Wyoming was a last second thing. I deployed Hillary to Texas, and she spent a majority of her time there. For the longest time, over 200 EV's were in the "toss-up" category. A lot of close states. I'm proud of myself for getting over 40% in Utah, as well.

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2009, 08:09:42 pm »

2012 (without the EV changes)




President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 446 Electoral Votes and 65,879,484 (53.6%) Popular Votes

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) - 92 Electoral Votes and 45,763,292 (37.3%) Popular Votes
Representative Ron Paul (L-TX-14)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 Electoral Votes and 6,288,837 (5.1%) Popular Votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,880,959 (4.0%) Popular Votes


BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?
How did you get the 2012 scenario? Has a new version been released?
(lol at Oklahoma Wink)
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2009, 08:29:25 pm »
« Edited: May 27, 2009, 08:31:12 pm by Bayh! `10 »

Thank you very much. I never would have found this if it wasn't for your help. Smiley

Question: I downloaded the one where Obama was incumbment. How do I play it now? I have the file for it, but that's it.
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2009, 07:12:10 am »

Thank you very much. I got it working. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some results later. I'm curious on the 2012 Obama version, why there is no Palin though...
Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2009, 03:49:34 pm »

2012 Scenario with McCain as incumbment...

McCain/Romney: 50.2%
Feingold/Richardson: 49.8%

Interesting outcome. I won every state by around the same amount. Every state Feingold won (minus the 4 in the middle) went to him with over 60% of the vote, causing an extremely close popular vote.

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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2009, 05:56:50 am »

^^^
How did you manage to get 60% in Louisiana? It's always extremely close when I play. It's actually not too bizarre, since all of those states are somewhat close at the beginning of the game, except Texas.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2009, 06:15:43 am »

Thank you very much. I got it working. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some results later. I'm curious on the 2012 Obama version, why there is no Palin though...
Smiley

I think it might've made during the primaries last, but i'm not sure. I added Palin with the candidate editor.
I was going to do that, but you can never be sure about percentages, how much money, etc. Stuff that determines how well the candidate does.
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2009, 03:25:13 pm »

2008




Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. Wink
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2009, 03:43:00 pm »

2008




Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. Wink
I think your hate for Romney is greater than my hate for Huckabee, which I always thought to be impossible.
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2009, 08:24:28 pm »

2008




Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. Wink
I think your hate for Romney is greater than my hate for Huckabee, which I always thought to be impossible.

Well, at least you admit to hating Huckabee....
Yep, did I ever deny it?
He's gone after my religion, which is never a positive. He raised taxes as governor, then, when Govenor Mitt Romney asked Huckabee if he did, he kept going around the question, which is a big negative for me. Also, he kept going after Romney, even though McCain was the frontrunner, and the one who's views differed from Huckabee's. Huckabee's campaign seemed to be focused on bringing Romney down.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2009, 08:10:18 am »

BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?

Anyone? Smiley

Also, how do you even make scenarios?
http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/p4e8_2012/

Cut the scenario with Winzip and paste it in the Scenario folder.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2009, 02:21:34 pm »

BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?

Anyone? Smiley

Also, how do you even make scenarios?
http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/p4e8_2012/

Cut the scenario with Winzip and paste it in the Scenario folder.

Oh, no, I meant make a whole customized scenario with your own percentages/parties/events etc.
You'll need Campaign Forever for that.
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2009, 03:53:46 pm »

Some states sure are weird. For example, as a Republican, I've never lost Florida, and only won Iowa once. And as a Democrat, I rarely win Florida and Missouri. Louisiana is always extmremely difficult to win as a Republican, as is New Hampshire.
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