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« on: July 25, 2009, 07:13:03 pm »

Not exactly sure what happened, as the Democrats usually make a good comeback after having finished in the primaries. Anyway, Bush almost loses the electoral vote, thanks to a narrow victory in Idaho for Perot, and a 300 vote win for Bush in Alaska

Idaho
Cuomo: 106,637 22.8%
Bush: 180,447 38.6%
Perot: 180,831 38.6%

Alaska
Cuomo: 60,260 23.2%
Bush: 99,623 38.4%
Perot: 99,363 38.3%



George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/George V. Voinovich (R-OH) 41,636,115 38.2%/271 Electoral
Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AK) 38,930,041 35.7%/235 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/Pat Choate (I-TX) 28,533,028 26.2%/32 Electoral


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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2009, 05:22:26 pm »

If anyone asks, I'll explain what happened.



Ralph Nader (Green) 38,001,047 35.2%/302 Electoral
Al Gore (Democratic) 35,747,553 33.1%/126 Electoral
George W. Bush (Republican) 34,088,095/110 Electoral
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2009, 09:11:08 pm »

Either the game malfunctioned, or you rigged it for Nader to win (Increasing funding, raising PIP's, raising state %'s).
I raised Nader's funds from about $100,000 to a $1,000,000, nothing else. I hadn't even planned for that result. My strategy was to quickly beef up my campaign organization, after which I would begin campaigning in New England, being Nader's strongest showing in the actual election. However, the crusaders and footsoldiers gave me a steady flow of momentum, and then came lots, and I mean LOTS, of interviews, to the point that they were coming each day. Started to rise in the polls, and the money allowed me to run the occasional add, possibly once every 8 weeks. After I began to poll really well in New England, I started to give attention to the West Coast and the Midwest. In the end though, it was the mudslinging between Bush and Gore that allowed me to win. Both consitently were at negative momentum, that only allowed me to keep peeling away at their voters. The West was unexpected, and only came into play due to the massive amount of undecided people there. Footsoldiers were crucial in carrying some of the close states like Indiana and Pennslyvania, but the failed me in New York.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 07:08:04 pm »
« Edited: July 27, 2009, 07:10:56 pm by Lahbas »

A deadlocked convention for the Democratic Party between Cuomo and Clinton harmed their chances in the election, especially when Clinton had won the popular vote in the primaries. Clinton had also been ahead in the delegate count, but Gephardt's delegates trended strongly for Cuomo, giving him the nomination. Depending on fundraising rather than goverment funds, I was able to keep going after Cuomo's campaign ran out of funds. A massive amount of scandals thrown out by Cuomo and Perot almost derailed my campaign, but a large last minute ad campaign was enough to negate the effects, and then gave me a small momentum boost going into election day. Footsoldiers were able to capture state that were polling Democratic, like New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Massachusetts.



George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 46,573,797 42.3%/531 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-IL) 26,773,199 24.3%/4 Electoral
Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Max Baucus  (D-MT) 36,749,868 33.4%/3 Electoral
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2009, 09:47:00 pm »
« Edited: July 27, 2009, 09:49:55 pm by Lahbas »

This should make your head spin. I played as John Connally in 1980, and managed to defeat Ronald Reagan for the nomination; however, he refused to drop out, which resulted in me being 20 points behind Carter in the general election. Running ads against Carter's Leadership, as well as concentrating on winning the endorsements brought me from being competitive only in Texas, to being on par with Carter. However, once I ran out of money, and the footsoldiers disbanded, Carter once again gained a 4 point lead. A last minute advertizing blitz was made, but at that point I though I was still going to lose, as I was now down by 6. The results suprised me.



There were still about 11% undecided by election day, which apparently went my way after my last hurrah. All of the Light-Colored States were within 2%

John Connally (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 41,958,366 51.5%/368 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Dale Bumpers (D-AK) 39,456,564 48.5%/170 Electoral
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 02:25:48 pm »

Played as Steve Forbes in the 2000 scenario. Using his warchest almost entirely in ads, I was able to become the frontrunner over both McCain and Bush. They were both reluctent to leave, however, and did not until the primaries were over. I had collected enough fund to remain with fundraising, and was already 10 points ahead in the polls of Gore when the general election started, and that never lessened. A Three-Day ad campaign in the last days, combined with three scandals being released on Gore destroyed any remaining chance he had.

Nader did have a bright spot though. Somehow, either the game glitched, or he managed to kick me and Gore off the ballot in New Mexico. Anyway, all the attempts I made to regain traction in that state failed. Here are the results.

New Mexico
Nader 673,511 95.9%
Gore 28,659 4.1%
Forbes 0 0%



All the light colored states were won within 2% of the runnerup.

Steve Forbes (R-NY)/John Engler (R-MI) 62,282,255 57.7%/515 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 41,090,480 38.1%/18 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-WN) 4,536,384 4.2%/5 Electoral
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 03:53:07 pm »

Played as John Edwards in 2004, starting in the general election. Use of footsoldiers and endorsements allowed me to crawl ahead in the polls. What really gave me my victory was a massive media blitz in the last three days going into election day.



Light Colored States are within 2% of the runnerup.

John Edwards (D-NC)/John Kerry (D-MA) 55,940,103 55.9%/422 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 44,135,480 44.1%/116 Electoral
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 07:05:14 pm »
« Edited: July 28, 2009, 09:57:52 pm by Lahbas »

Played as Al Gore in the 2000 scenario, starting in the general election. Simply played off Bush's unpopular views on Nation-Building, footsoldiers, and ads. A two-day ad blitz, combined with two massive scandals put the final nail in the coffin.



Light Colored States are within 3% of the runnerup.

Texas was actually unexpected. For a long time I was behind, and even on election day, polls showed Bush leading 55-41. For a while, I thought I might capture the state, but it eventually fell back into Bush's column.

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 58,633,338 54.4%/390 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 46,156,167 42.8%/148 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,024,045 2.8%/0 Electoral
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 09:56:00 pm »

Played the 2000 scenario as Bush, starting with the general election, following a similar strategy as I did with Gore. However, I attacked Gore on Health-Care reform, while centralizing my views a bit in Nation-Building so he could not attack me as well. The campaign went better than expected, despite Cheney doing better in the debates than Bush (he lost all three). Massive media blitz at the end ensured a massive turnout. The only problem I did have was that I never managed to find a scandal on Gore, despite spending 3 weeks researching. Guy was very clean this time around.



All Lightly Colored States were within 2% of the runnerup.

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 61,328,015 56.9%/472 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 43,010,784 39.9%/66 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,368,490 3.1%/0 Electoral
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2009, 01:08:32 pm »

Played as John Glenn in the 1984 General Election. On election I thought I was going to win, because I had massive momentum, there were a lot of tossup states, and Reagan had a lot of negative momentum. I was surprised by the results.



Light Colored States are within 2% of the runner up.

What made the defeat even worse was that I had won the Popular Vote by a comfortable margin, despite being destroyed in the electoral vote. I at least had the satisfaction of taking Reagan's home state. This might also be the only election in which the nominee's both lost their home states to their opponent, while the Vice-Nominee's captured theirs.

Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 40,930,579 49.5%/330 Electoral
John  Glenn (D-OH)/Dale Bumpers (D-AK) 41,808,473 50.5%/208 Electoral
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2009, 10:13:42 pm »

Ran as Perot against only Pat Buchanan to see what would happen.



(R)-Pat Buchanan/Alexander Haig: 528 EV, 68.1%
(I)-Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 10 EV, 31.9%
Try Perot against the Democrats, it's more interesting that way. Buchanan was very likely to be far ahead of your fundraising rates going into the election. With the Democrats, at least you should be able to take most of the Republican base, and therefore not face that same problem.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2009, 10:23:12 pm »

I played as Anderson in 1980.



John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.
How did you get Anderson to win support? That is, if you started in the primaries, then Anderson would have started with 0%, both in the General Election and the primary maps.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2009, 10:39:30 pm »
« Edited: August 01, 2009, 10:58:08 pm by Lahbas »

1980 General Election Ford vs Carter 2 Part I

I played as Gerald Ford in a fictitious scenario in which Ronald Reagan decides not to run again for the Presidency, while Ford throws his hat into the ring. All the rest is the same.
1980 Democratic Primaries

Red=Carter   
Blue=Kennedy
Kennedy was polling ahead, until the Mudd Interview, and the “rally around the flag” regarding the hostages in Iran. Surprisingly, Kennedy held on long into the primaries, until finally dropping out late in the season. He refused to endorse Carter, however. Carter for some reason dropped Mondale from the ticket, bringing in young Governor Daniel Robert “Bob” Graham.      
1980 Republican Primaries

Green=Ford   
Blue=Bush   
Red=Baker
Playing as Ford, even on hard, I was surprised at the intensity of the primary fight. Bush upset me in almost every state he won, except Massachusetts, and Baker in New Hampshire. Bush refused to drop out, confident in his late primary wins, until only the Utah primary was left. At that point, he finally conceded, having been promised a good position within the Ford administration. At the Convention, Ford would choose Senate Minority Leader Howard Henry Baker Jr. from Tennessee as his running mate.

I post the results of the general election in just a second.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2009, 10:43:16 pm »

I played as Anderson in 1980.



John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.
How did you get Anderson to win support? That is, if you started in the primaries, then Anderson would have started with 0%, both in the General Election and the primary maps.

I started in the General election. The main reason was because I wanted the GOP candidate to be someone other than Reagan. But I ran really hard in the Northeast, and used a lot of footsoilders there, in New York I used more than Carter or Connelly!
If you look back, I tried to take down Reagan while playing as Connally. The only problem is, Reagan almost always takes the fight to the convention, and in that case it caused me to be far behind Carter. I've never run as Anderson in '80, only in '84. I might try it now that you have. If possible, I'll try manipulating the game so that at 100% support for Anderson in the primaries, he has the same support as he has in the general election.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2009, 10:55:33 pm »
« Edited: August 01, 2009, 10:57:39 pm by Lahbas »

1980 General Election Ford vs. Carter Part II

Going into the election, Ford already had a decent lead over Carter. What only made it worse was that Ford had a massive fundraising advantage, had praticed both his issues and debating skills, and was able to appeal to most of the nation. Ford throughout the election all the way to election day was overwhelmingly voted for in the polls, and Carter was only contesting several states. The Ford Campaigns massive media blitz, and the destructive scandals leaked into the press two days before the election only dimmed Carter's electoral hopes. Carter conceded the election to Ford before the results from the Western states started to come in.



Lightly Colored states were within 2% of the runner up.

Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 45,645,688 56.1% 513 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 35,769,242 43.9% 25 Electoral

Delware was ridiculously close, with the two candidates only split by 97 vote!

Delware
Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 105,510 50%
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 105,413 50%
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2009, 09:28:44 am »

Played as Anderson in the general election. Strategy consisted of nothing more than footsoldiers and the occasional ad. Concentrated almost entirely on the Liberal North and the Pacific Coast, but soem support built up in Texas as well as Florida. I went into election day, thanks to a massive media blitz the day before, with +22 momentum.



It is hard to say if Anderson cost Reagan the election, or if Reagan would have done worse.

Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 34,352,036 39.1% / 372 Electoral
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 30,772,587 35% / 137 Electoral
John Anderson (I-IL)/Patrick Lucey (I-WI) 22,747,492 25.9% / 29 Electoral
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2009, 04:18:58 pm »

I played as Perot, this time in the general election rather than starting from the primaries. I thought that I was only going to get into the lower 20's, but I was suprised at how strong Perot really was. Strategy was similar to what I used for Anderson, except I placed the footsoldiers anywhere I thought I had a chance at electoral victories. Despite Clinton winning the electoral and popular vote, Bush won the election in the House.



Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 37,306,755 35.9% / 225 Electoral
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 36,224,920 34.8% / 187 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 30,512,877 29.3% / 126 Electoral

These were the closest states in the election.

Montana
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 115,218 34.6%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 115,147 34.6%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 102,361 30.8%

Wyoming
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 69,746 36.5%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 68,782 36%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 52,770 27.6%

Utah
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 275,881 38.6%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 271,961 38.1%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 166,738 23.3%

Idaho
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 173,515 40.6%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 170,253 39.9%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 83,335 19.5%

Colorado
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 510,061 36.1%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 505,502 35.8%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 398,363 28.2%

North Dakota
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 96,402 37.1%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 91,429 35.2%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 71,835 27.7%

Oklahoma
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 468,780 36.2%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 455,060 35.1%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 372,451 28.7%

Missouri
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 747,554 34.9%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 725,204 33.8%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 670,863 31.3%

Florida
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 2,009,335 36%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1,928,501 34.6%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 1,636,075 29.4%

Pennsylvania
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1,769,662 36.1%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 1,732,791 35.4%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 1,393,507 28.5%

New Hampshire
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 167,137 36.4%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 153,375 33.4%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 138,765 30.2%
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2009, 09:50:23 pm »

I am not even going to explain this. I played as Reagan, and destroyed Carter in the 1980 election. I was happy until I saw the map of the Obama Victory above. Only Minnesota could possibly have changed hands, but even that never returned to Carter after the first five minutes of ballot counting.



Light Colored States were within 2% of the runner-up.

Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 50,479,987 62% / 535 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 30,934,943 38% / 3 Electoral
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2009, 06:35:31 pm »

Played as Carter starting in the general election. To be honest, I thought this was going to be difficult, since I was already starting behind in the polls by a significant margin, and Reagan had a high levels in all his stats. Somehow, in some freak accident, or the liberals took over the Republican Party, the RNC endorsed me instead of Reagan. I hadn't been courting them, but the media campaign I was running in order to win the other endorsements might have had something to do with it. Anyway, the campaign was just a simple shrinking of Reagan's base, until he was left with only the West. Even there, it was quite divided. The only state that came close to Reagan east of the Mississippi was New Hampshire.



Light Colored states were within 2% of the runner-up.

Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 45,275,316 55.7% / 514 Electoral
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 36,062,458 44.3% / 24 Electoral

Close States

Nevada
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 137,082 50.1%
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 136,740 49.9%

North Dakota
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 115,786 50.2%
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 114,680 49.8%

Idaho
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 154,439 50.1%
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 153,684 49.9%

New Mexico
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 213,263 51.1%
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 204,378 48.9%

New Hampshire
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 155,832 51.7%
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 145,730 48.3%
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2009, 05:57:32 pm »

Tried to take up the challenge of defeating Carter in the primaries as Kennedy. It is possible, if you do not waste all your money in the beginning trying to negate the effects of the events like I did. Carter really just has too much momentum in the beginning. I came close, but it was not enough to win the nomination. I possibly could have won at the convention, but that cannot be represented in the game.



Jimmy Carter (D-GA) 1834 Delegates / 54%
Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 1440 Delegates / 46%
Jerry Brown (D-CA) "7 Delegates / 8%" Dropped Out
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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2009, 08:10:41 pm »

Uneven Matchups 2000 Edition Part I
Spacebarred through the general election, pitting the best possible Republican ticket against the worst possible Democratic ticket. Safe to say, the results are solid, but it was still a suprise that the Democrats managed to still carry Florida.



Light-Colored States were won within 4% of the runner-up

John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 55,322,447 51.3% / 327 Electoral
Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 48,906,684 45.4% / 211 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,573,754 3.3%

Close States

Florida

Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 3,092,527 50.3%
John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 2,960,988 48.2%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 94,773 1.5%

Delware

Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 147,684 49.4%
John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 140,684 47.2%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 9,966 3.3%

Vermont

John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 111,428 47.9%
Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 104,206 44.8%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 16,824 7.2%

California

Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 6,497,442 49.8%
John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 6,003,625 46%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 538,774 4.1%

Iowa

John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 564,528 50.5%
Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 519,624 46.5%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 33,348 3%
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2009, 08:40:40 pm »

Uneven Matchups 2000 Edition Part II

Spacebarred through the general election, pitting the best possible Democratic ticket against the worst possible Republican ticket. The result are as one would expect, especially considering who the Republican canidate is.



Light-Colored States are within 3% of the runner-up

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 57,917,304 53.7% / 407 Electoral
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 46,877,041 43.5% / 131 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 2,974,585 2.8%

Close States

North Carolina

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 1,551,355 50.5%
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 1,523,662 49.5%

Georgia

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 1,582,698 50.9%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 1,509,400 48.5%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 20,190 0.6%

Kentucky

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 782,331 50.2%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 741,473 47.6%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 35,225 2.3%

Tennessee

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 1,123,043 51.2%
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 1,049,813 47.8%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 21,656 1%

South Carolina

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 787,333 50.8%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 731,734 47.2%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 30,580 2%

Texas

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 4,051,372 50.8%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 3,754,574 50.8%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 161,609 2%
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2009, 09:03:53 pm »

Uneven Matchups 2004 Edition Part I
Spacebarred through the general election with the best possible Democratic ticket against the worst possible Republican ticket.



North Carolina was the only state that could have possibly changed hands.

John Kerry (D-MA)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 52,240,882 51.5% / 366 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 47,784,474 47.1% / 172 Elector
Others 1,353,058 1.4%

Close States

North Carolina
John Kerry (D-MA)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 1,504,764 49.8%
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 1,477,047 48.9%
Others 37,272 1.2%
Others 1,353,058 1.4%
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2009, 09:53:11 pm »

1984 election



Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 522 electoral votes and 49,180,589 (55.9%) popular votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 16 electoral votes and 35,385,835 (40.2%) popular votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador to Mexico Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 3,479,987 (4.0%) popular votes

Going into election day, Senator Kennedy had 280 electoral votes in his column. With the help of one Pro-Kennedy ad and one Anti-Reagan ad, Kennedy swept the undecideds to become the 41st President of the United States.
General Election, or from the primaries?
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2009, 10:35:14 pm »

1968 Presidential Election as Humphrey.




Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 36,213,169 45.3% / 336 Electoral
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 31,460,404 39.4% / 125 Electoral
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 12,221,327 15.3% / 77 Electoral


Close States

Tennessee

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 556,265 33.6%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 551,106 33.3%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 547,944 33.1%

Kentucky

Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 624,080 37.3%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 613,068 36.7%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 434,261 26%

North Carolina

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 693,609 34%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 680, 609 33.3%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 667,794 32.7%

Wisconsin

Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 711,469 47.4%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 693,478 46.2%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 97,500 6.5%

Delaware

Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 83,759 44.9%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 80,849 43.4%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 21,746 11.7%

South Carolina

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 360,715 34.9%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 344,865 33.3%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 329,023 31.8%

Arkansas

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 281,669 36.2%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 263,125 33.9%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 232,241 29.9%

Florida

Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 917,819 36.2%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 838,032 33.1%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 779,459 30.7%

New Hampshire

Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 132,437 50.2%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 124,071 47%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 7,442 2.8%
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