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nini2287
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E: 2.77, S: -3.39

« on: March 28, 2005, 05:25:49 pm »
« edited: March 29, 2005, 05:39:56 pm by nini2287 »

Here's my results from the 2020 scenario:



Stephanie Herseth/Michael Garcia-32% 343 EV
J.C. Watts/Melissa Hart-29% 163 EV
Matt Gonzalez/John Eder-19% 25 EV (Washington, Oregon, Vermont and Maine)
Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot-17% 7 EV (Alaska and New Hampshire)

Arizona and Rhode Island should also be >20%.

The two closest states were Florida and North Carolina in which I won both by around 7,000 votes


I played the scenario again using Bob Casey (for some reason I started out 9 points behind in the polls

Melissa Hart/Adam Putnam-48% 279 EVs
Bob Casey Jr/Barack Obama-51% 259 EVs
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2005, 06:03:51 pm »

Playing as Goldwater (the scenario gave me a lot of money)



Goldwater--58% 461 EVs
Johnson--41%  75 EVs

For whatever reason, DC wasn't included in this scenario.

My strategy was basically to use my money and bombard the entire nation with ads (all positive, except for my first one, which backfired in one day, but nevertheless hurt Johnson a lot).
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2005, 03:11:20 pm »

Here's 1912...I played as TR.  Coming into the home stretch, it looked as if I'd win the popular vote but it would be very close to whether I received enough EVs...however, Wilson was hit with 2 major scandals and Taft with 1, plus on the last day of the campaign, I ran 4 ads in all50 states, which threw states I wasn't even competitive in (mostly in the South) into my column:



Roosevelt-42% 399 EV
Wilson-19%  86 EV
Debs-18% 26 EV
Taft-20% 20 EV
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nini2287
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 03:51:24 pm »

Man, dynamism produces weird results:



This is myself playing as Al Sharpton/Dick Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney

Sharpton--55%  337 EV
Bush--44% 201 EV

Closest States
Iowa--Sharpton wins by about 1,700 votes
New Mexico--Sharpton wins by about 2,700 votes
Wyoming-Bush wins by about 2,700 votes

Best Bush states
North Dakota--66.1%
Connecticut--60.4%
Florida--58.3%
Ohio--58.1%
Wisconsin--57.2%

Best Sharpton states
DC--88.8%
New Jersey-71.7%
Illinois--71.3%
Rhode Island--67.7%
New York-65.9%
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nini2287
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2005, 01:42:19 pm »

I gave Perot a try...



Clinton got socked with 3-4 scandals, while Bush and I were ok scandal-wise.  Clinton won one debate, another was a tie, and I (Perot) triumphed in third debate.

Bush--36% 246 EV
Clinton--27% 83 EV
Perot--33% 209 EV
Marrou--2% 0 EV

Best states
Bush--North Carolina 59.3%
Clinton--DC 53.5%/Rhode Island 48.3%
Perot--Oregon 53.6%

Closest states:
Colorado-Perot 39.2%/Bush 38.9%
Montana-Clinton 40.7%/Perot 39.4%
New York-Bush 37.6%/Clinton 36.8%
Michigan--Clinton 35.6%/Perot 34.1%/Bush 30.2%

Despite his poor performance, the House picked Bill Clinton for President.
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nini2287
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2005, 11:06:27 pm »

Man, dynamism makes it too easy, myself (McGovern) vs. Nixon



I ran a good (power 5 or 6) ad against Nixon in the beginning, followed up with ads of my own.  We tied one debate and Nixon won the other.  With a week to go, Nixon got hit with two major scandals and I got hit with one, but mine was spun down quickly.

McGovern/Schriver--61% 455 EV
Nixon/Agnew--38% 83 EV

Best McGovern states:
D.C.:  86.0%
Rhode Island:  81.5%
North Carolina (!):  80.6%
Washington:  79.0%
Ohio:   78.4%

Best Nixon states:
Idaho:  60.2%
New York:  56.7%
Alaska:  55.5%
Arkansas:  54.4%
North Dakota:  52.9%

Closest State:
Delaware:  McGovern wins 50.0-49.9  (131346 to 131124)
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nini2287
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2005, 02:56:38 pm »

I may now have the strangest map ever:



This was a 2008 scenario with made up candidates, I was playing as a moderate libertarian-esque Democrat from NY against a populist conservative candidate from AR.

For a bit in this game, the Republican had 8-point leads in MA and IL and I had leads in ND and NE.

Close states (less than 5%)
Wyoming Dem +2.7
Georgia Dem +1.7
Iowa Dem +0.7
Missouri GOP +1.7
Kansas GOP +1.9
Hawaii GOP +2.5
Utah GOP +2.9
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2005, 04:33:11 pm »

I slaughtered Johnson as Goldwater in 1964 through two highly successful negative ads and three major scandals.



Best 5 Goldwater states:
1-Mississippi  94.5%
2-Louisiana 82.9%
3-Georgia 82.8%
4-South Carolina 82.6%
5-Florida 80.3%

Best 5 Johnson states:
1-West Virginia 53.0%
2-California 32.5%
3-Rhode Island 31.4%
4-Delaware 30.2%
5-Alabama-30.1% (only because I ran less ads here, since the state was already locked up)

For whatever reason, DC was not included in this scenario.  I also won the PV 75-24
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2005, 10:20:52 pm »



Myself (Stevenson) vs. Eisenhower

Stevenson--360 EV 54%
Top States:
North Carolina 73.8%
Mississippi 73.6%
Arkansas 70.0%
New Jersey 68.8%

Eisenhower--171 EV 45%
Top States:
Vermont 61.6%
Ohio 58.2%
Texas 57.4%
Indiana 57.3%

Close states:
Rhode Island (Stevenson wins 50.1-49.8, or 1044 votes)
Nevada (Eisenhower wins 51.3-48.6, or about 3300 votes)
Illinois (Stevenson wins 50.4-49.5, or about 30000 votes)
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2005, 10:51:49 pm »



I won as George Wallace!

Nixon--31% PV 61 EV
Humphrey--36% PV 208 EV
Wallace--31% (about 500000 more votes than Nixon) 270 EV

Nixon's best states:
Idaho-59.5%
Arizona-57.6%
South Dakota-57.0%
Maine-52.6%
Oklahoma-51.6%

Humphrey's best states:
Nevada--66.8%
DC--63.5%
Connecticut--60.6%
New Mexico--60.4%
Alaska-60.0%

Wallace's best states:
Mississippi--71.1%
Louisiana--68.3%
West Virginia--67.2%
Alabama--67.2%
Texas--65.3%
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2005, 07:52:25 pm »



1992
Bush/Quayle (myself)--47% 433 EV
Clinton/Gore--29% 70 EV
Perot/Stockdale--22% 35 EV

I might have made it an electoral sweep (outside of WV and DC) but I was socked by two major scandals (one reached power 11) with about 2 weeks to go.

Best states:
Bush--North Dakota 65.0%
Clinton--West Virginia 50.0% (DC-61.3%
Perot--Wyoming 45.0%

Worst states:
Bush--California 34.1% (I was actually leading most of the way) (DC-31.2%)
Clinton--Utah 9.7%
Perot--Tennessee 4.3%

States within 5%:
Texas-Perot over Bush (42.4%-41.4%)
Arkansas-Bush over Clinton (48.1%-46.3%)
New York-Bush over Perot (42.5%-38.4%)
Utah--Bush over Perot (47.5%-42.7%)
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2005, 10:26:25 pm »



This is the 1860 election:
Stephen Douglas (myself/blue)-35% PV 146 EV
John Breckenridge (red)-25% PV 122 EV
John Bell (green)-20% PV 29 EV
Abraham Lincoln (yellow)-18% PV 6 EV

Best states
Douglas:
1) Michigan 76.4%
2) Rhode Island 71.2%
3) New Jersey 70.2%
4) Minnesota 69.7%
5) Illinois 64.4%

Breckenridge:
1) Texas 59.7%
2) Mississippi 57.1%
3) South Carolina 55.2%
4) Florida 53.7%
5) Arkansas 52.2%

Bell:
1) Maryland 48.0%
2) Lousiana 47.6%
3) Tennessee 46.9%
4) North Carolina 45.7% (he lost the state)
5) Virginia 44.5% (he lost the state)

Lincoln:
1) Vermont 44.7% (he lost the state, but was leading until I shot up 45 points in the polls the last week)
2) Connecticut 43.4%
3) Ohio 38.6% (lost state)
4) New York 36.3% (lost state)
5) Wisconsin 36.0% (lost state)

Worst States:
Douglas:
1) Texas 2.3%
2) Mississippi 4.0%
3) Florida 4.2%
4) Maryland 4.4%
5) Virginia 5.0%

Breckenridge:
1) Michigan 0.3%
2) Ohio 2.0%
3) Wisconsin 2.1%
3) New York 2.1%
5) Massachusetts 2.7%

Bell:
1) Wisconsin 0.0% (108 votes)
2) Minnesota 0.3%
3) New Jersey 0.6%
4) Rhode Island 0.7%
5) New York 1.0%

Lincoln:
1) Kentucky 0.0% (35 votes)
2) Arkansas 0.0% (47 votes)
2) Virginia 0.0% (47 votes)
4) Mississippi 0.0% (62 votes)
5) North Carolina 0.0% (187 votes)

Close States (Less than 5%)
Delaware-Bell defeats Breckenridge defeats Douglas (32.2%-31.6%-26.3%)
Tennessee-Bell defeats Breckenridge (46.9%-45.5%)
Maryland-Bell defeats Breckenridge (48.0%-46.3%)
North Carolina-Breckenridge defeats Bell (48.2%-45.7%)
Louisiana-Bell defeats Breckenridge (47.6%-43.6%)
California-Breckenridge defeats Douglas (33.7%-29.2%)

...forgot to add, Congress elected me President!
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2005, 11:19:15 am »

2020--Rising Stars



Melissa Hart-29% 261 EV
Bob Casey (me)-33% 251 EV
Matt Gonzalez-19% 14 EV
Michael Badnarik-17% 12 EV

Best states

Hart:
Utah 48.3%
Wisconsin 48.2%
Kentucky 47.9%
Tennessee 46.6%
North Carolina 45.7%

Casey:
DC 65.2%
Ohio 45.2%
Illinois 44.4%
New Hampshire 40.5%
Arizona 40.4%

Gonzalez:
Oregon 42.8%
Hawaii 37.1%
California 35.3%
Vermont 33.2%
Maine 31.4%

Badnarik:
Wyoming 40.4%
Montana 38.2%
Alaska 35.4%
New Hampshire 32.6%
North Dakota 32.4%

Worst States

Hart:
Hawaii 15.0%
California 15.0%
Maine 15.8%
Arizona 16.7%
Oregon 17.5%

Casey:
Alaska 16.4%
Oklahoma 20.5%
Georgia 22.7%
Alabama 23.2%
Arkansas 23.5%

Gonzalez:
Montana 3.7%
Georgia 4.8%
Utah 6.1%
South Dakota 6.7%
Nebraska 6.9%

Badnarik:
DC 3.8%
Oregon 4.1%
Vermont 6.9%
Wisconsin 7.0%
Hawaii 8.4%

Close states (<5%)
Washington-Hart defeats Casey (34.1-33.9)
Maine-Gonzalez defeats Casey (31.4-31.1)
Virginia-Casey defeats Hart (33.3-32.9) (I wasn't even close-pulled this one with last second ad blitz)
Vermont-Gonzalez defeats Casey/Hart (33.2-31.5-28.2)
Iowa-Hart defeats Casey (41.0-39.1)
North Dakota-Badnarik defeats Casey (32.4-30.3)
Pennsylvania-Hart defeats Casey (39.7-37.6)
Connecticut-Casey defeats Gonzalez (30.8-28.5)
Michigan-Hart defeats Badnarik/Casey (29.4-25.4-24.9)
Hawaii-Casey defeats Gonzalez (39.3-37.1)
California-Casey defeats Gonzalez (35.3-31.2)
Alaska-Badnarik defeats Hart (35.3-31.2)
Idaho-Casey defeats Badnarik (34.9-30.0)

And the House decided to vote for Hart to win the election Sad
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2005, 02:29:08 pm »

Rising Stars 2020



Hesreth/Obama (me)--38% 349 EV
Bush/Staples--25% 100 EV
Gonzalez/Eder--18% 41 EV
Badnarik/Default VP-forget name--17% 48 EV

Best states

Herseth:
DC 73.3%
Illinois 56.7%
Delaware 55.4%
Iowa 49.2%
California 48.0%

Bush:
Pennsylvania 40.7%
New York 39.9%
Wisconsin 38.2%
Georgia 37.7%
Florida 36.6%

Gonzalez
Oregon 51.1%
Washington 41.9%
Maine 41.3%
New Jersey 37.0%
Hawaii 34.7%

Badnarik
New Hampshire 48.4%
Wyoming 45.7%
Utah 43.4%
Nebraska 41.8%
Montana 38.1%

Close states (within 5)
Georgia-Bush defeats Hesreth (37.7-37.2)
Idaho-Bush defeats Barnarik defeats Herseth (32.6-31.9-29.4)
Ohio-Bush defeats Herseth (35.5-34.5)
New York-Herseth defeats Bush (40.3-39.3)
Alabama-Badnarik defeats Bush (30.6-29.1)
Vermont-Gonzalez defeats Badnarik (31.6-30.0)
South Carolina-Badnarik defeats Bush (35.6-33.4)
West Virginia-Herseth defeats Bush (40.2-37.2)
Alaska-Badnarik defeats Herseth (35.2-31.Cool
Colorado-Herseth defeats Bush (34.1-29.9)
Louisiana-Bush defeats Herseth (29.9-25.4)
Florida-Bush defeats Herseth (36.6-31.9)
Pennsylvania-Bush defeats Herseth (40.7-36.Cool
Montana-Badnarik defeats Bush (38.1-33.3)
Minnesota-Herseth defeats Gonzalez (32.0-27.0)
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2005, 10:44:42 pm »

Nice job on Utah, I didn't think that was possible
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2005, 01:12:54 am »

And all that led to this rather odd map:



Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD Tongue

I think all of this proves my comment above about Idaho. Tongue

If you a scroll back a page or two, I won Idaho as Bob Casey in the Rising Stars scenario
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2005, 11:51:24 pm »

I did Gore vs. Keyes vs. Nader vs. Buchanan to see which hard core Republican states I could win:



If I weren't socked with a few scandals, I would have won South Dakota (lost by 2.7), Nebraska (lost by 5.0), Louisiana (lost by 1.1) Arkansas (lost by 0.7) and Utah (lost by 0.3)!

I'll add Keyes to teh 2004 scenario and see how that goes
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2005, 12:56:13 am »

Here we go:

Mark Warner/Dick Gephardt vs. Alan Keyes/Pat Toomey (2004)



I won the PV 64-35.  I won Utah, Idaho, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Texas, Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota and Alaska by over 10 points each, and yet lose Ohio (52.8-47.1).  Oh well, I did win Idaho (58.2-41.7) Wink
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2005, 12:45:03 am »

I did the Warner vs. Keyes game again but played as Keyes:



I won the PV 56-43
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2005, 01:01:19 am »

My first 538 EV sweep (Warner vs. Keyes)



Popular vote was 69-30 (87,074,439-37,850,581)
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2005, 12:38:08 am »

BRTD would be proud, I kicked ass as Debs:



I won't go into details, but:

Debs-Wilson-Taft-Roosevelt:
PV:  38%-20%-22%-18%
EV:  393-85-36-17
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2005, 12:22:37 am »



I played as Perot in this one (1992)...interesting out of the states Bush won, Clinton won most of them in real life
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2005, 12:36:58 am »

I tried as Wallace.  I did a tad better, but not much:



Nixon 32% 121 EV
Humphrey 36% 252 EV
Wallace 30% 165 EV

Best State
Nixon Maine 58.2%
Humphrey Minnesota 58.6% (DC-58.3%)
Wallace Louisiana 73.6%
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2005, 11:55:39 am »


Speaking of ads- at one point, Lincoln was running five ads at once in Maine. Crazy.

Isn't there a maximum of 4 ads at a time?
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2005, 04:11:52 pm »

2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me)

I think Nader creamed his pants while watching the results of this election come in.



George W. Bush - 269 EVs - 40% PV
Al Gore - 243 EVs - 39% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 20% PV

Yep, no electoral majority due to Nader's candidacy.

Congress elected Bush.

I shudder to think about what the election's fallout would be if this actually happened in reality.

If NY voted Bush and OK voted Gore in reality, I think there would be bigger fallout.
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