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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #125 on: June 05, 2009, 05:50:18 PM »

Sorry, but you can't be "right" polling approval ratings. There's no such thing. It's something that cannot be verified.

For some reason his approval and issue polling usually comes out around five to ten points more favorable to Republicans than other polling. 

He uses a Likely Voters, while others poll adults.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #126 on: June 05, 2009, 05:57:14 PM »

Also he uses an IVR poll, most other pollsters use a live interviewer. PPP has consistently found the same results as Rasmussen(they are also IVR and they are a D pollster).
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #127 on: June 05, 2009, 06:22:45 PM »

My suspicion is that Rassmussen's numbers dipped down because people aren't in love with the GM takeover.

What do you suggest then, leave GM to fail and cause another economic crisis?  If he ratings went down because of this, the American people are too stupid to know how the economy works. 

How exactly would it cause an economic crisis? You liquidate it and sell it off piece by piece. Do you seriously think the government can run a car company? When is the last time the government has done anything right?
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #128 on: June 05, 2009, 06:45:11 PM »

Sorry, but you can't be "right" polling approval ratings. There's no such thing. It's something that cannot be verified.

For some reason his approval and issue polling usually comes out around five to ten points more favorable to Republicans than other polling. 

He uses a Likely Voters, while others poll adults.

"Likely Voters" implies those who voted in the previous election. Some of the voters of 2012 are now only 14 years old. Should the youth vote behave differently from the rest of the vote, then an approval rating can badly distort the likely vote.    

That makes zero sense. An adult poll wouldn't poll that person either.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #129 on: June 06, 2009, 07:35:33 AM »

Rasmussen

Approve 53%(-1)
Disapprove 47%(+1)

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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #130 on: June 06, 2009, 07:29:06 PM »

Well Zogby has him at 51%....
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #131 on: June 07, 2009, 08:19:11 AM »

Until PPP stops showing similar results, it's hard to call Rasmussen an outlier.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #132 on: June 08, 2009, 08:22:13 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2009, 08:23:46 PM by RowanBrandon »

Marist

Approve 56%
Disapprove 32%

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/majority-lauds-obamas-overall-job-performance/

"However, fervor among younger voters has died down.  In those previous polls, 18 to 29 year olds tipped the scales toward the president’s positive approval ratings with his rating among this group in the seventies.  The current proportion of voters within this age group who approve of President Obama’s performance — 61% — is just slightly higher than registered voters in general."
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #133 on: June 09, 2009, 05:56:46 AM »

I think it's most likely just a case of "It's summer dude, let's go to the beach and get wasted. That would be soo cool! Wait, I need to take this survey first?  the government!"
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #134 on: June 10, 2009, 05:47:56 AM »

I have a better algorithm than what you are using, it's called common sense.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #135 on: June 10, 2009, 04:40:37 PM »

I love that Obama will win VA by 10 points or more. Dude, your "system" sucks.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #136 on: June 10, 2009, 04:50:15 PM »

But clearly approval ratings in June 2009 are not even close to what will happen in November 2012. His approvals are buoyed by 25% Republican support. I think anyone with half a brain knows he won't get 25% R support in 2012, so these numbers are useless.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #137 on: June 11, 2009, 06:33:55 AM »

So PPP has him at 51% there, but Civitas at 66%? I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's closer to the 51% than the 66%.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #138 on: June 11, 2009, 05:49:28 PM »

I love that Obama will win VA by 10 points or more. Dude, your "system" sucks.
Uh, he won by 6.3 points only several months ago. So you're incredulous about Obama improving by at least 3.7 points nationally, let alone in one of the most aggressively Democratic shifting states?

I don't think it's his analysis that sucks here.

Hmm, his approval rating there is 52%, lower than his 2008 vote total. So yeah, I have a hard time believing it.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #139 on: June 14, 2009, 03:45:46 PM »

KOS doesn't have an approval rating. It's a favorable rating. Big difference. But then again, you're not smart enough to realize that.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #140 on: June 14, 2009, 03:47:43 PM »

KOS doesn't have an approval rating. It's a favorable rating. Big difference. But then again, you're not smart enough to realize that.

Hey, at least I haven't misplaced a whole state.

Whatever the hell that even means...
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2009, 04:05:33 PM »

KOS doesn't have an approval rating. It's a favorable rating. Big difference. But then again, you're not smart enough to realize that.

Hey, at least I haven't misplaced a whole state.

Whatever the hell that even means...

And you are supposed to be the smart one. Roll Eyes

Sorry, I don't speak gibberish.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2009, 04:12:06 PM »


Ok, let's explain it to you like you're a four year old.

You seem to have misplaced a state the size of New Jersey.

Got it son?

Oh.

Hilarious.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #143 on: June 16, 2009, 06:24:57 AM »
« Edited: June 16, 2009, 06:35:37 AM by RowanBrandon »

New York City-Quinnipiac

Approve 79%
Disapprove 16%

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1314&What=&strArea=;&strTime=0
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #144 on: June 17, 2009, 06:21:12 PM »

NBC/WSJ Obama Approval
Approve 56%
Disapprove 34%

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/WSJ-NBC_Poll090617.pdf
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #145 on: June 19, 2009, 03:31:05 PM »

You shouldn't include polls in your map that ask for favorability instead of approval. It is usually purposely done that way to make the numbers higher.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2009, 12:51:07 PM »

This is interesting:

Editorial note: Gallup will not publish new Gallup Poll Daily tracking results Saturday, June 20. The next update will be Sunday, June 21.

I bet they got a word from Dear Leader. He didn’t like their results.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #147 on: June 21, 2009, 09:33:43 AM »

Yeah Bush was at 53% on election day 2004, but only got 51% of the vote.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #148 on: June 21, 2009, 12:05:46 PM »

Gallup today:

Approve 57%(-1, lowest ever)
Disapprove 35%(+2, highest ever)
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #149 on: June 21, 2009, 05:37:15 PM »

PPP North Carolina
Approve 50%
Disapprove 43%
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