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« Reply #8675 on: August 29, 2011, 12:27:25 am »

I don't buy Gallup - 3 or 4% swings in such a short amount of time do show that it is a volatile electorate... but I, in all objective reason, don't see them as reasonable swings.
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« Reply #8676 on: August 29, 2011, 08:09:41 am »

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62190.html

He's lost ground according to the AP-GfK data, with white voters, women, liberals and younger voters, in surveys taken just after the debt-ceiling debate.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62190.html#ixzz1WQI40X1D
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« Reply #8677 on: August 29, 2011, 08:21:07 am »

Just for formatting:

Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 46, +1.

Disapprove 54%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 23%, +1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 40%, -2.

Looks good for a change, but any national polls over the next three days or so are obviously suspect -- whatever they are. State polls outside of the storm zone will be interesting.


I made that point before the storm hit.  Smiley

I'd really wait until Thursday at the earliest before I'd start viewing the polls with normal skepticism.

Exactly. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in saying that that is the last national poll that I am going to consider valid until the power lines are up. The geographic scale of damage is far wider, and the storm affects far more people, than is usual for a hurricane. The states and DC affected comprise 140 electoral votes.
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« Reply #8678 on: August 29, 2011, 08:38:16 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45, -1.

Disapprove 55%, +1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 22%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, +1.
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« Reply #8679 on: August 29, 2011, 08:47:56 am »

I don't buy Gallup - 3 or 4% swings in such a short amount of time do show that it is a volatile electorate... but I, in all objective reason, don't see them as reasonable swings.

These are common on Gallup, which accounts for the "meh."  Actually these swings are within the MOE.

The main thing that I'm looking for on Gallup is the low point, and that is for historical comparisons.

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« Reply #8680 on: August 29, 2011, 08:59:16 am »

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62190.html

He's lost ground according to the AP-GfK data, with white voters, women, liberals and younger voters, in surveys taken just after the debt-ceiling debate.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62190.html#ixzz1WQI40X1D

I am not surprised that that is the explanation. The response to Hurricane Irene will soon matter far more.
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« Reply #8681 on: August 29, 2011, 12:06:36 pm »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)
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« Reply #8682 on: August 29, 2011, 12:09:58 pm »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)

is this a joke?!
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« Reply #8683 on: August 29, 2011, 12:10:27 pm »


It's Gallup, what do you think ?
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« Reply #8684 on: August 29, 2011, 12:11:25 pm »


I can't see how they would drop that quickly...do you have a link?
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« Reply #8685 on: August 29, 2011, 12:12:40 pm »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)

It's not up on their site yet.  They've also been known to get typos.
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« Reply #8686 on: August 29, 2011, 12:13:12 pm »

The response to Hurricane Irene will soon matter far more.

response to basically a non event?
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« Reply #8687 on: August 29, 2011, 12:13:51 pm »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)

It's not up on their site yet.  They've also been known to get typos.

well, if you two are playing a joke, I'm not going to find it funny
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« Reply #8688 on: August 29, 2011, 12:17:07 pm »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)

It's not up on their site yet.  They've also been known to get typos.

well, if you two are playing a joke, I'm not going to find it funny

I could swear, for a few seconds these were the numbers I saw ... Wink

...

Editorial note: Gallup will not publish new Gallup Daily tracking results on Monday, August 29. The next update will be Tuesday, August 30.
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« Reply #8689 on: August 29, 2011, 12:18:55 pm »
« Edited: August 29, 2011, 12:20:33 pm by J. J. »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)

It's not up on their site yet.  They've also been known to get typos.

well, if you two are playing a joke, I'm not going to find it funny

I'm not; they just have yesterday's numbers posted.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

The note is up:  http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
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« Reply #8690 on: August 29, 2011, 12:21:01 pm »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)

It's not up on their site yet.  They've also been known to get typos.

well, if you two are playing a joke, I'm not going to find it funny

I could swear, for a few seconds these were the numbers I saw ... Wink

ha ha...not funny.  31 is a totally different political reality than 38, because at this point in time 31 would not only be bad news for Obama, it would be a serious bad omen for his successor.
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« Reply #8691 on: August 29, 2011, 01:36:09 pm »

Lol gallup is more bi-polar than my ex. but really some weirdos prob got ahold of of gallup his numbers will creep back up in the coming days.
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« Reply #8692 on: August 29, 2011, 02:34:39 pm »
« Edited: August 29, 2011, 08:46:41 pm by J. J. »

Gallup:

31% Approve (-7)
63% Disapprove (+8)

It's not up on their site yet.  They've also been known to get typos.

well, if you two are playing a joke, I'm not going to find it funny

I could swear, for a few seconds these were the numbers I saw ... Wink

ha ha...not funny.  31 is a totally different political reality than 38, because at this point in time 31 would not only be bad news for Obama, it would be a serious bad omen for his successor.

Something is up on Gallup.  Maybe they looked at it, thought is a bad sample or there was a fairly large sections of the Northeast they couldn't reach.  Looking at the areas with major disruptions, they equal 129 EV, all of which went to Obama last time.
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« Reply #8693 on: August 30, 2011, 12:14:00 am »

Can you say decline!
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« Reply #8694 on: August 30, 2011, 01:44:29 am »

Weekly PPP/DailyKos/SEIU poll:

42% Approve (nc)
54% Disapprove (+1)

Public Policy Polling, 1000 Registered Voters, MoE 3.1%, August 25, 2011 - August 28, 2011.

http://dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2011/8/25
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« Reply #8695 on: August 30, 2011, 07:54:05 am »


Sure.  But I can also say 'transitory' and 'reversible' in that context.
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« Reply #8696 on: August 30, 2011, 08:52:24 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 43, -2.

Disapprove 56%, +1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, +2.

It looks like a pro-Obama sample dropped out.  I'm sort of worried about the Irene effect on the polling, but these numbers are almost identical to the pre-Irene numbers.

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« Reply #8697 on: August 30, 2011, 09:03:17 am »


Sure.  But I can also say 'transitory' and 'reversible' in that context.


Can you say "When" or "How low will he go?"

Right now, his numbers are lower than any other president since 1970, for this point in time, except for Carter.  Carter's numbers were improving at this point in time.  No incumbent that was re-elected had numbers this low at this point in time since 1970.
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« Reply #8698 on: August 30, 2011, 12:58:49 pm »

Odd, Gallup has not reported yet.
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« Reply #8699 on: August 30, 2011, 01:06:43 pm »

Weekly PPP/DailyKos/SEIU poll:

42% Approve (nc)
54% Disapprove (+1)

Public Policy Polling, 1000 Registered Voters, MoE 3.1%, August 25, 2011 - August 28, 2011.

http://dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2011/8/25

independents voters: 33-66

Sample: D+6

I would like understand how gallup, polling adults (more democrats than "likely voters"), can give ALWAYS worst results that rasmussen, polling likely voters. On this, between Ras and Gallup, I prefer PPP... Wink
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