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« Reply #9025 on: October 27, 2011, 09:29:05 pm »

He has a chance just like the Indianapolis Colts still have a chance of winning the Super Bowl this year.

Hey Peyton could come back, and they could go 9 in a row, and 9-7 could get them into the playoffs

And the economy could turn around, and Obamacare might actually save money, and ........


.....and you might finally get a girl

Fuck off.

You can't talk to me that way. I'm going to have to report you and your vulgar, virgin mouth to the dean. Unless of course you apologize to me right this instant. I'm not the type of person to hold grudges.

Ok, sorry.
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« Reply #9026 on: October 28, 2011, 09:26:00 am »

Get a room... Wink
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« Reply #9027 on: October 28, 2011, 03:57:59 pm »



Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, +1.

Disapprove 54%, -1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 20%,+1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, u.
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« Reply #9028 on: October 29, 2011, 08:39:33 am »



Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 46%, +2.

Disapprove 52%, -2.

"Strongly Approve" is at 21%,+1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, -1.

Either a bad sample, or Obama is improving.
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« Reply #9029 on: October 30, 2011, 09:52:11 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 46%, u.

Disapprove 53%, +1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 23%,+2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, u.

If this is a bad sample, we should see Obama's numbers drop tomorrow or Tuesday, especially the Strongly Approve numbers.
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« Reply #9030 on: October 30, 2011, 03:45:09 pm »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 46%, u.

Disapprove 53%, +1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 23%,+2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, u.

If this is a bad sample, we should see Obama's numbers drop tomorrow or Tuesday, especially the Strongly Approve numbers.


Qaddafi dead, announced pull-out from Iraq, lower unemployment numbers... those can only help the President's approval rating.

This is a good starting position before the campaign season begins in earnest for he President -- if he can have it in April. 
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« Reply #9031 on: October 31, 2011, 08:44:49 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 45%, -1.

Disapprove 54%, +1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 22%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, +1.

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« Reply #9032 on: October 31, 2011, 12:59:29 pm »



Qaddafi dead, announced pull-out from Iraq, lower unemployment numbers... those can only help the President's approval rating.

This is a good starting position before the campaign season begins in earnest for he President -- if he can have it in April. 

I think you are grandly over reading Libya.  Unemployment dropped slightly, but not nearly enough.  Iraq only helps if it is stable, and it's too early to tell.
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« Reply #9033 on: October 31, 2011, 01:24:03 pm »



Qaddafi dead, announced pull-out from Iraq, lower unemployment numbers... those can only help the President's approval rating.

This is a good starting position before the campaign season begins in earnest for he President -- if he can have it in April. 

I think you are grandly over reading Libya.  Unemployment dropped slightly, but not nearly enough.  Iraq only helps if it is stable, and it's too early to tell.

Less significant singly than Osama bin Laden being whacked. But put them together and that destroys one of the early raps on the President -- that he would be indecisive and ineffective on matters of defense and diplomacy.

The economy? "Bad but improving" is far better than "mediocre but shaky" as it was six years ago, let alone in free-fall where it was three years ago. So the President campaigns on "The job is not done, and I need your help because Congress won't do anything".

I see him running a Truman 1948 campaign and winning on it.
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« Reply #9034 on: October 31, 2011, 01:32:35 pm »

Europeans organized the coup d'etat in Libya. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Pbrower, your fangirlish love for Obama is kind of sick. I can see you fapping for any poll that shows approval ratings one or two points up. But take it easy, this is just a bad sample.
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« Reply #9035 on: October 31, 2011, 02:17:55 pm »

Europeans organized the coup d'etat in Libya. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Pbrower, your fangirlish love for Obama is kind of sick. I can see you fapping for any poll that shows approval ratings one or two points up. But take it easy, this is just a bad sample.

Coup? That was a popular revolution. That organization had a hidden hand. NATO never acts so firmly, decisively, and fearlessly without the implicit consent of the United States and its leadership.

I do not love President Obama. He is simply the best leader that we could have at this time. I have seen his approval ratings go up and down, and this time I could see a reason. My favorite analogue for this President is paradoxically that of Ronald Reagan, not my favorite President.
   
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« Reply #9036 on: October 31, 2011, 03:33:01 pm »



Less significant singly than Osama bin Laden being whacked. But put them together and that destroys one of the early raps on the President -- that he would be indecisive and ineffective on matters of defense and diplomacy.

This won't be about the early raps (and I strongly approve of Obama's role in Libya).

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The economy? "Bad but improving" is far better than "mediocre but shaky" as it was six years ago, let alone in free-fall where it was three years ago. So the President campaigns on "The job is not done, and I need your help because Congress won't do anything".

I see him running a Truman 1948 campaign and winning on it.

Bad, and getting worse.  It has to improve substantially to be a plus.
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« Reply #9037 on: October 31, 2011, 05:12:35 pm »

I'm not sold that it is getting worse anymore. Growth in Q3 was way, waaay better than anyone predicted, and undercut the doom and gloomers who predicted a recession in 2012. For there to be a recession in 2012, growth will have to collapse now (Q4) and also in Q1, or in Q1 and Q2. It could still happen I guess, in Q1, but I'm not seeing it for the current quarter.

It seems we are reverting back to the 2009-2010 narrative, that the economy is slowly improving and that the unemployment rate is dropping at an agonizingly slow rate. At the time of the 2010 midterm elections, the rate was at 10.x%; it will likely not be above 8.5% for election day 2012 if we continue to see growth rates of 2.5%-3% per quarter like we just had.

Things can change so quickly. A month and a half ago, people were screaming recession and the trend was deficit reduction. Now we are seeing better than expected nuts and bolts figures, and the conversation has shifted back to territory that favors Democrats: income inequality and a lack of economic security. Meanwhile, Obama's numbers are returning to their pre-debt crisis mid-40s levels and Mitt Romney is beginning to look less and less like a presidential contender. If I was the President, I'd feel much better about my chances than I would have on September 31. Lets just keep in perspective how transient a few good and bad weeks can be.
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« Reply #9038 on: October 31, 2011, 05:23:03 pm »

I'm not sold that it is getting worse anymore. Growth in Q3 was way, waaay better than anyone predicted, and undercut the doom and gloomers who predicted a recession in 2012. For there to be a recession in 2012, growth will have to collapse now (Q4) and also in Q1, or in Q1 and Q2. It could still happen I guess, in Q1, but I'm not seeing it for the current quarter.

since when have I been labeled a doom and gloomer?  and how does a rearview snapshot of 2011Q3 growth undercut forward projections of a recession in 2012?  (for the record, ECRI is predicted negative GDP growth by 2012Q1)
 
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It seems we are reverting back to the 2009-2010 narrative, that the economy is slowly improving and that the unemployment rate is dropping at an agonizingly slow rate. At the time of the 2010 midterm elections, the rate was at 10.x%; it will likely not be above 8.5% for election day 2012 if we continue to see growth rates of 2.5%-3% per quarter like we just had.

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« Reply #9039 on: October 31, 2011, 06:00:06 pm »

By doom and gloomers, was speaking more towards Nouriel Roubini than you, jmfcstabcdefg. But yeah, you're right - unemployment was down from its peak by election day 2010 - I stand corrected.

We still very well could have negative growth in Q1 2012, but Q4 should be somewhat decent, which makes it hard to see what will cause the trend to change. I feel better about the economy than I did a few months back.
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« Reply #9040 on: October 31, 2011, 11:08:31 pm »

We still very well could have negative growth in Q1 2012, but Q4 should be somewhat decent, which makes it hard to see what will cause the trend to change. I feel better about the economy than I did a few months back.

half the uptick in Q3 was due to increase spending on electricity (due to the heat wave) and medical services...and real personal income decreased by 1.7% in Q3 after increasing 0.6% in Q2

so, it really doesnt matter if GDP increased by 1% or 2.5% or 5% in Q3...the report sucked and had very little in it that was sustainable for growth and job creation.
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« Reply #9041 on: November 01, 2011, 09:42:40 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, -1.

Disapprove 55%, +1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, u.


The bad sample worked its way through the numbers.
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« Reply #9042 on: November 02, 2011, 06:06:25 am »



Qaddafi dead, announced pull-out from Iraq, lower unemployment numbers... those can only help the President's approval rating.

 

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« Reply #9043 on: November 02, 2011, 09:28:28 am »

Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, u.

Disapprove 55%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 20%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, u.


Not much movement.

We are reaching a point where the Gallup numbers will become important.  If, beginning next week, Obama starts dropping below 40% and stays there on the weekly numbers, it is probably over.
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« Reply #9044 on: November 02, 2011, 11:29:37 am »

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We are reaching a point where the Gallup numbers will become important.  If, beginning next week, Obama starts dropping below 40% and stays there on the weekly numbers, it is probably over.

How right you are my lumpy little student. November 7th is "Official Gallup Becomes Important Day".
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« Reply #9045 on: November 02, 2011, 12:20:58 pm »

Numbers seem to move up to the 50% barrier, slowly:

Gallup today: 45-48 (+2, -2)

Quinnipiac: 47-49 (+6, -6)

"Disapprove" has now dropped below 50% again on the RCP average:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
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« Reply #9046 on: November 03, 2011, 09:17:27 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 46%, +2.

Disapprove 53%, -3.

"Strongly Approve" is at 20%, u.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, u.

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« Reply #9047 on: November 03, 2011, 11:27:37 am »

Obama Average Approval Rating October 2011 (Gallup):

41% Approve

51% Disapprove

Trends for comparison:

Roosevelt: 62/37 (October 1939)

Truman: No poll (October 1947) AND 29/55 (October 1951)

Eisenhower: No poll (October 1955)

Kennedy: 58/29 (October 1963)

Johnson: 40/50 (October 1967)

Nixon: 51/38 (October 1971)

Ford: 47/39 (October 1975)

Cater: 30/57 (October 1979)

Reagan: 47/43 (October 1983)

Bush I: 65/28 (October 1991)

Clinton: 48/41 (October 1995)

Bush II: 55/41 (October 2003)
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« Reply #9048 on: November 03, 2011, 12:58:06 pm »

National

Obama Job Approval
41% Approve, 52% Disapprove (chart)
Economy: 31 / 58 (chart)
Health Care: 36 / 52 (chart)

Congressional Job Approval
9% Approve, 68% Disapprove (chart)

State of the Country
13% Right Direction, 71% Wrong Track

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/20111101econToplines.pdf
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« Reply #9049 on: November 04, 2011, 09:22:36 am »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 44%, -2.

Disapprove 56%, +2.

"Strongly Approve" is at 19%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, u.


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