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« Reply #950 on: June 04, 2009, 11:12:06 pm »

Two polls for NJ today, 59% and 60% approval:


And people think Obama can win over Arizona in 2012 and hold onto Colorado?  Doubt that, I think Obama will flip Missouri and South Dakota before the other two according to the polls.

Yeah, I think you can agree as a fellow resident that the mountain west has an aversion to big government. However, I think if the GOP nominates, say, Huckabee, Obama will still win Colorado and Arizona. However, a candidate popular in the west like Romney or Huntsman could keep these states.
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« Reply #951 on: June 04, 2009, 11:21:19 pm »

Don't get me wrong, I think Huckabee would be a good candidate, but I still prefer Romney to run in 2012 against Obama.  Only one can hope for that to happen, still too early to predict.
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« Reply #952 on: June 05, 2009, 08:17:15 am »

Yes, because of one approval rating poll, Obama will lose Colorado.

Stop overanalyzing the approval ratings. You're not helping yourselves become decent political analysts; you're just looking like fools.

Roll Eyes

That one Colorado poll was also highly questionable.  Do you think only 23% of Hispanics really approve of Obama there?

Not sure where you pulled those numbers from, probably your ass. He was at 58% among Hispanics in the poll.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_421.pdf
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« Reply #953 on: June 05, 2009, 09:00:06 am »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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« Reply #954 on: June 05, 2009, 09:40:16 am »

Florida (Strategic Vision, 1200 Likely Voters, May 29-31)Sad

60% Approve

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/06/05/fl-poll-crist-cruising-to-sen-gov-race-tight/
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« Reply #955 on: June 05, 2009, 12:07:55 pm »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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These numbers don't make sense based on the state by state numbers. With Obama still getting huge approval ratings in most recent state polls, particuarly those with larger populations, all of the unpolled and not recently polled states would've had to slip to 70-80% disapproval for these national numbers to add up.

Outlier
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« Reply #956 on: June 05, 2009, 12:22:37 pm »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

These numbers don't make sense based on the state by state numbers. With Obama still getting huge approval ratings in most recent state polls, particuarly those with larger populations, all of the unpolled and not recently polled states would've had to slip to 70-80% disapproval for these national numbers to add up.

Outlier

You can't compare state numbers from other firms to Rasmussen as they each use a different polling method. Rasmussen just had Obama at 60% in NJ, so a 54% national rating based off of that, is hardly unreasonable.
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« Reply #957 on: June 05, 2009, 01:29:11 pm »

I think his Rasmussen numbers will bounce back. I don't think they'll hit the 60's any time soon, but I don't think people are completely fed up with him just yet. It's very possible that yesterday was an outlier.

Lookng at the trends, it does seem to be more partisan than the previous days.
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« Reply #958 on: June 05, 2009, 03:38:52 pm »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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There is no way that there are absolutely zero undecideds.  Majorly flawed poll. 
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« Reply #959 on: June 05, 2009, 03:42:30 pm »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

There is no way that there are absolutely zero undecideds.  Majorly flawed poll. 

He was one of the most accurate pollsters in the last several elections. This is also not among adults but likely voters. Majorly flawed post.
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« Reply #960 on: June 05, 2009, 03:57:06 pm »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

There is no way that there are absolutely zero undecideds.  Majorly flawed poll. 

He was one of the most accurate pollsters in the last several elections. This is also not among adults but likely voters. Majorly flawed post.

He was almost never right with Bush's approval ratings.  All throughout 2006 when Bush's ratings were around 30% in most polls, Rasmussen consistantly had him in the mid 40's. 
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« Reply #961 on: June 05, 2009, 04:32:36 pm »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

There is no way that there are absolutely zero undecideds.  Majorly flawed poll. 

He was one of the most accurate pollsters in the last several elections. This is also not among adults but likely voters. Majorly flawed post.

He was almost never right with Bush's approval ratings.  All throughout 2006 when Bush's ratings were around 30% in most polls, Rasmussen consistantly had him in the mid 40's. 

Way to not read what I typed...
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« Reply #962 on: June 05, 2009, 04:43:19 pm »

After getting his best results in a while, Rasmussen today shows Obama with his worst approvals so far:

54% Approve
46% Disapprove

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. Thatís the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded."

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

There is no way that there are absolutely zero undecideds.  Majorly flawed poll. 

He was one of the most accurate pollsters in the last several elections. This is also not among adults but likely voters. Majorly flawed post.

He was almost never right with Bush's approval ratings.  All throughout 2006 when Bush's ratings were around 30% in most polls, Rasmussen consistantly had him in the mid 40's. 

Way to not read what I typed...

My point is that he is good with election polling, but not good with approval and issue polling. 
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« Reply #963 on: June 05, 2009, 05:26:37 pm »

Sorry, but you can't be "right" polling approval ratings. There's no such thing. It's something that cannot be verified.
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« Reply #964 on: June 05, 2009, 05:45:23 pm »

Sorry, but you can't be "right" polling approval ratings. There's no such thing. It's something that cannot be verified.

For some reason his approval and issue polling usually comes out around five to ten points more favorable to Republicans than other polling. 
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« Reply #965 on: June 05, 2009, 05:46:08 pm »

My suspicion is that Rassmussen's numbers dipped down because people aren't in love with the GM takeover.
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« Reply #966 on: June 05, 2009, 05:50:18 pm »

Sorry, but you can't be "right" polling approval ratings. There's no such thing. It's something that cannot be verified.

For some reason his approval and issue polling usually comes out around five to ten points more favorable to Republicans than other polling. 

He uses a Likely Voters, while others poll adults.
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« Reply #967 on: June 05, 2009, 05:50:52 pm »

I think his Rasmussen numbers will bounce back. I don't think they'll hit the 60's any time soon, but I don't think people are completely fed up with him just yet. It's very possible that yesterday was an outlier.

Lookng at the trends, it does seem to be more partisan than the previous days.

Agreed.  Plus look at what's listed: "Strongly Approve" and "Strongly Disapprove". It looks like it only has the polls of people who have strong convictions about their opinion about Obama and not fencesitters. The cumulative "Agree" or "Disagree" percentages could be higher or lower.
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« Reply #968 on: June 05, 2009, 05:57:14 pm »

Also he uses an IVR poll, most other pollsters use a live interviewer. PPP has consistently found the same results as Rasmussen(they are also IVR and they are a D pollster).
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« Reply #969 on: June 05, 2009, 06:00:10 pm »

All of this talk is stupid. You can't assume things based on three or four approval rating polls and then make very baseless assumptions about the rest of the country. I do think Obama's approval ratings will consistently be heading down until it seems clear that the economy is beginning to recover though.
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« Reply #970 on: June 05, 2009, 06:20:57 pm »

My suspicion is that Rassmussen's numbers dipped down because people aren't in love with the GM takeover.

What do you suggest then, leave GM to fail and cause another economic crisis?  If he ratings went down because of this, the American people are too stupid to know how the economy works. 
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« Reply #971 on: June 05, 2009, 06:22:45 pm »

My suspicion is that Rassmussen's numbers dipped down because people aren't in love with the GM takeover.

What do you suggest then, leave GM to fail and cause another economic crisis?  If he ratings went down because of this, the American people are too stupid to know how the economy works. 

How exactly would it cause an economic crisis? You liquidate it and sell it off piece by piece. Do you seriously think the government can run a car company? When is the last time the government has done anything right?
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« Reply #972 on: June 05, 2009, 06:36:26 pm »

My suspicion is that Rassmussen's numbers dipped down because people aren't in love with the GM takeover.

What do you suggest then, leave GM to fail and cause another economic crisis?  If he ratings went down because of this, the American people are too stupid to know how the economy works. 

How exactly would it cause an economic crisis? You liquidate it and sell it off piece by piece. Do you seriously think the government can run a car company? When is the last time the government has done anything right?

January 20th, lol
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« Reply #973 on: June 05, 2009, 06:39:25 pm »

Sorry, but you can't be "right" polling approval ratings. There's no such thing. It's something that cannot be verified.

For some reason his approval and issue polling usually comes out around five to ten points more favorable to Republicans than other polling. 

He uses a Likely Voters, while others poll adults.

"Likely Voters" implies those who voted in the previous election. Some of the voters of 2012 are now only 14 years old. Should the youth vote behave differently from the rest of the vote, then an approval rating can badly distort the likely vote.    
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« Reply #974 on: June 05, 2009, 06:45:11 pm »

Sorry, but you can't be "right" polling approval ratings. There's no such thing. It's something that cannot be verified.

For some reason his approval and issue polling usually comes out around five to ten points more favorable to Republicans than other polling. 

He uses a Likely Voters, while others poll adults.

"Likely Voters" implies those who voted in the previous election. Some of the voters of 2012 are now only 14 years old. Should the youth vote behave differently from the rest of the vote, then an approval rating can badly distort the likely vote.    

That makes zero sense. An adult poll wouldn't poll that person either.
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