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« Reply #525 on: April 23, 2009, 11:25:05 am »

PPP National

Approve 53%
Disapprove 41%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_423.pdf

Geez an approval even lower than the Republican hack Rasmussen?Huh??

And Pew has him at 63-26 and AP/GfK at 64-30.
So apparently PPP is the odd one here.

Weren't Democrats criticizing AP late in the 2008 presidential race when it showed Obama only up by 2 points?

Now they are great!

Who are ''the Democrats''?
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« Reply #526 on: April 23, 2009, 11:26:02 am »

PPP National

Approve 53%
Disapprove 41%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_423.pdf

Geez an approval even lower than the Republican hack Rasmussen?Huh??

And Pew has him at 63-26 and AP/GfK at 64-30.
So apparently PPP is the odd one here.

Weren't Democrats criticizing AP late in the 2008 presidential race when it showed Obama only up by 2 points?

Now they are great!

Who are ''the Democrats''?


Obamabots.
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« Reply #527 on: April 23, 2009, 11:31:56 am »

PPP National

Approve 53%
Disapprove 41%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_423.pdf

Geez an approval even lower than the Republican hack Rasmussen?Huh??

And Pew has him at 63-26 and AP/GfK at 64-30.
So apparently PPP is the odd one here.

Weren't Democrats criticizing AP late in the 2008 presidential race when it showed Obama only up by 2 points?

Now they are great!

Who are ''the Democrats''?


Obamabots.

Go ask them.
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« Reply #528 on: April 23, 2009, 01:43:47 pm »

I strongly approve of Obama.



jamespol approval rating: OMG 100%!!!11
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« Reply #529 on: April 23, 2009, 03:08:28 pm »

PPP National

Approve 53%
Disapprove 41%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_423.pdf

Geez an approval even lower than the Republican hack Rasmussen?Huh??

And Pew has him at 63-26 and AP/GfK at 64-30.
So apparently PPP is the odd one here.

Weren't Democrats criticizing AP late in the 2008 presidential race when it showed Obama only up by 2 points?

A poll for an election is different to a poll for approval though.
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« Reply #530 on: April 23, 2009, 03:12:05 pm »

PPP National

Approve 53%
Disapprove 41%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_423.pdf

Geez an approval even lower than the Republican hack Rasmussen?Huh??

And Pew has him at 63-26 and AP/GfK at 64-30.
So apparently PPP is the odd one here.

Weren't Democrats criticizing AP late in the 2008 presidential race when it showed Obama only up by 2 points?

A poll for an election is different to a poll for approval though.

Translation: When it shows what I want it's a good pollster, when it doesn't, it's trash.
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« Reply #531 on: April 23, 2009, 09:06:27 pm »

Isn;t the PPP poll registered voters?  Rassmusen is likely voters and they Obama in the 60s.  The Gallup and AP polls are all adults.

Isn't the unreported story on these approval ratings that Obama's numbers among people who are paying attention are mediocre and his numbers among people who get their news by reading the cover of Us Weekly in the supermarket checkout are high?

Shouldn't we start saying that PPP and Rasmussen are the canary in the coal mine?  That they are outliers because they measure a different, and more relevant, universe of people than the AP and Gallup polls?  And that their sample is telling us where things are headed?
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« Reply #532 on: April 23, 2009, 09:22:24 pm »

Isn;t the PPP poll registered voters?  Rassmusen is likely voters and they Obama in the 60s.  The Gallup and AP polls are all adults.

Isn't the unreported story on these approval ratings that Obama's numbers among people who are paying attention are mediocre and his numbers among people who get their news by reading the cover of Us Weekly in the supermarket checkout are high?

Shouldn't we start saying that PPP and Rasmussen are the canary in the coal mine?  That they are outliers because they measure a different, and more relevant, universe of people than the AP and Gallup polls?  And that their sample is telling us where things are headed?
If you go to Rasmussen though and read most of their polls it is the "political class" that approves of Obama's actions and policies. Their views also tend to be more liberal. If you are trying to put forth the idea that Democrats are idiots and Republicans are not doing it right.
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« Reply #533 on: April 23, 2009, 10:11:32 pm »

Isn;t the PPP poll registered voters?  Rassmusen is likely voters and they Obama in the 60s.  The Gallup and AP polls are all adults.

Isn't the unreported story on these approval ratings that Obama's numbers among people who are paying attention are mediocre and his numbers among people who get their news by reading the cover of Us Weekly in the supermarket checkout are high?

Shouldn't we start saying that PPP and Rasmussen are the canary in the coal mine?  That they are outliers because they measure a different, and more relevant, universe of people than the AP and Gallup polls?  And that their sample is telling us where things are headed?

Trying to poll "likely voters" in an off-year is just a bad idea.
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« Reply #534 on: April 23, 2009, 10:16:33 pm »

PPP National

Approve 53%
Disapprove 41%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_423.pdf

Geez an approval even lower than the Republican hack Rasmussen?Huh??

And Pew has him at 63-26 and AP/GfK at 64-30.
So apparently PPP is the odd one here.

Weren't Democrats criticizing AP late in the 2008 presidential race when it showed Obama only up by 2 points?

A poll for an election is different to a poll for approval though.

Translation: When it shows what I want it's a good pollster, when it doesn't, it's trash.

Ehh its more along the lines of looking at the consensus.......   The AP poll from October was called out because it showed results far different from virtually every other pollster, which is the same reason why PPP is being called out now.
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« Reply #535 on: April 23, 2009, 11:45:54 pm »

Isn't the PPP poll registered voters?  Rasmussen is likely voters and they Obama in the 60s.  The Gallup and AP polls are all adults.

Isn't the unreported story on these approval ratings that Obama's numbers among people who are paying attention are mediocre and his numbers among people who get their news by reading the cover of Us Weekly in the supermarket checkout are high?

Shouldn't we start saying that PPP and Rasmussen are the canary in the coal mine?  That they are outliers because they measure a different, and more relevant, universe of people than the AP and Gallup polls?  And that their sample is telling us where things are headed?

Of course it is 44 months until the next Presidential election. We don't know what sort of Presidency Obama will have.

The signs are far better than those for George W. Bush at the same stage of the Presidency, and Dubya won re-election... barely. I can see how Obama can lose in 2012 :

1. Sex scandal. For obvious reasons he has less leeway for sexual misdeeds than did Bill Clinton. The bromide that a politician can get away anything in bed other than a live boy or a dead woman doesn't apply to Obama; Obama can't get away with the exposure that a white female of any kind, no matter how willing she is, has shared a bed with him. Clinton got away with Monica Lewinsky; Obama could never. The best advice for Obama to remain President after 2012 is to stay with Michelle Obama. If anything happens to Michelle, then Obama had better not end up with any white, Asian, or non-black Hispanic woman; he isn't a popular musician, pro athlete, or professional athlete.

2. Economic calamity. Nobody expects any reprise of the real-estate boom of the Dubya era; such is clearly impossible. Real estate will be a very poor investment in the 2010s unless it is bought cheaply or built cheaply... and everyone knows that. Enough time remains for a boom that goes bust.

3. A persistent international calamity. A bolt from the blue (Pearl Harbor, Khobar Towers bombing, 9/11) doesn't cause so many problems for the President as does a war going badly (Korean War, Vietnam War 1966-1968, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2007-2008) or a bad situation with no obvious solution (Carter-era '444 Days' situation in Iran).

4. A bungled response to a natural disaster -- volcanic eruption, hurricane, earthquake, flood, or urban conflagration. Before 2005, such had never happened. After Hurricane Katrina, the President's Party had one political problem after another. To be sure, Dubya wasn't running for re-election, but the bad situation surely weakened the chances of some GOP Representatives and Senators to be re-elected in 2006 and 2008. In 2012 such bungling would endanger the chances of re-election of the President.

5. A mega-scandal involving abuse of power or economic corruption that Obama can't sweep under the rug.

If Obama avoids such snares, then he wins re-election. If he gets a steady economic recovery with "tax-and-spend" liberalism, then the only people who will reliably respond to condemnation of that method are the people who would never give a break to any Democratic nominee for President. The relevant and most recent parallel is Ronald Reagan, who ended the stagflation of the 1970s with economic decisions that the liberal playbook mentioned only with the words "Absolutely not!" Walter Mondale campaigned on opposition to the harsh effects of Reaganomics -- and won support almost entirely from core Democrats. That obviously wasn't enough for a Mondale victory.

A slow wind-down of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan won't be too little for Obama; fault will fall upon Dubya for the wars. Some negotiated settlement? That was Dwight Eisenhower. After eight years of you-know-who, an Eisenhower-like Presidency would look very good.

........

I look at the map of approval ratings, and I notice one huge trend: that the political polarization by region is far less than it was on Election Day. That itself is good for America. The approval map does not show that Obama is going to win Utah, Alabama, or Kentucky in 2012; in fact it doesn't even show that Obama will win Michigan or Pennsylvania. It shows, apparently, that potential voters do not yet reject Obama in overwhelming numbers anywhere -- yet. Americans in all regions -- even in some States that voted against him by 20% or greater margins -- give him a chance.  

Obama has ways in which he can lose his re-election bid in 2012, and many in which to win.       

    
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« Reply #536 on: April 23, 2009, 11:54:42 pm »

Isn;t the PPP poll registered voters?  Rassmusen is likely voters and they Obama in the 60s.  The Gallup and AP polls are all adults.

Isn't the unreported story on these approval ratings that Obama's numbers among people who are paying attention are mediocre and his numbers among people who get their news by reading the cover of Us Weekly in the supermarket checkout are high?

Shouldn't we start saying that PPP and Rasmussen are the canary in the coal mine?  That they are outliers because they measure a different, and more relevant, universe of people than the AP and Gallup polls?  And that their sample is telling us where things are headed?

Trying to poll "likely voters" in an off-year is just a bad idea.

Indeed -- especially when some of the voters in the 2012 election aren't yet 15 years old, when Obama has yet to state that he will run for re-election, and nobody knows who the GOP nominee will be.   
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« Reply #537 on: April 24, 2009, 12:12:51 am »

PPP National

Approve 53%
Disapprove 41%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_423.pdf

Geez an approval even lower than the Republican hack Rasmussen?Huh??

And Pew has him at 63-26 and AP/GfK at 64-30.
So apparently PPP is the odd one here.

Also, the new Harris Interactive Online poll (April 13-21, 2401 adults):

58% Excellent/Good
42% Fair/Poor

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/pubs/Harris_Poll_2009_04_23.pdf

Texas (DailyKos/R2000, April

45% Favorable
53% Unfavorable

The Research 2000 Texas Poll was conducted from April 20 through April 22, 2009. A total of 600 likely voters who vote regularly in state elections were interviewed statewide by telephone.

http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2009/4/22/TX/288
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« Reply #538 on: April 24, 2009, 12:45:11 pm »

Daily Kos/Research 2000.
April 20-23, 2009
2400 Adults
Fav/Unfav

68%(-1)/26%(-1)

http://dailykos.com/weeklypoll/2009/4/23

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« Reply #539 on: April 24, 2009, 03:26:11 pm »



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« Reply #540 on: April 24, 2009, 05:09:48 pm »

All State/National Journal

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20090423_4001.php

Presidential approval

Approve 61.1% (strongly 38%; somewhat 23.1%)
Disapprove 27.6% (somewhat 7.6%; strongly 20%)

Right Direction/Wrong Track (Country)

Right Direction 47.2%
Wrong Track 41.5%

Right Direction/Wrong Track (Economy)

Right Direction 30.3%
Wrong Track 54.6%

Obama and the Swells by Ronald Brownstein

Polls show President Obama gaining support from both affluent and blue-collar voters.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20090425_7496.php

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« Reply #541 on: April 24, 2009, 05:15:50 pm »

Gallup the outlier? Everything is trending down except them.
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« Reply #542 on: April 24, 2009, 05:30:08 pm »

Gallup the outlier? Everything is trending down except them.

Not quite. Both Pew and Fox News have trended up Smiley compared with their immediately previous polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html#polls

Pew: Approve 63% (+2) / Disapprove 26% (nc)

Fox News: Approve 62% (+4) / Disapprove 29% (-3)

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« Reply #543 on: April 24, 2009, 06:04:57 pm »

Gallup the outlier? Everything is trending down except them.

An outlier in that it's going up and two other polls are going down?  That does not meet any statistical definition of "outlier" I know of.
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« Reply #544 on: April 24, 2009, 06:29:05 pm »

2. Economic calamity. Nobody expects any reprise of the real-estate boom of the Dubya era; such is clearly impossible. Real estate will be a very poor investment in the 2010s unless it is bought cheaply or built cheaply... and everyone knows that. Enough time remains for a boom that goes bust.

Except that no one who knows anything thinks the real estte bubble is over.  Seen commercial real estate values?  As we say in California, aftershock.

A calamity is not required, just sustained misery.  I fully expect sustained misery (in fact I expect the next President to preside over sustained misery).
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« Reply #545 on: April 24, 2009, 09:17:28 pm »

Gallup the outlier? Everything is trending down except them.

how the hell do you get that from the image I posted which you are responding to?  Did you turn your laptop upsidedown and are confused?

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« Reply #546 on: April 24, 2009, 11:07:21 pm »

Rasmussen and "National Non-Daily Polls" are going down, no? Obviously the All polls trend estimate is being affected by the Gallup. Isn't "National Non-Daily Polls" everything except Gallup and Rasmussen? And is that not going down?
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« Reply #547 on: April 25, 2009, 12:06:51 am »

Michigan (Rasmussen, April 14, 500 Likely Voters):

64% Approve
35% Disapprove

(Jennifer Granholm):

48% Approve
52% Disapprove

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/states_general/michigan/michigan_voters_say_auto_bailouts_good_bank_bailouts_bad
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« Reply #548 on: April 25, 2009, 12:18:29 am »

Elon Carolinas Poll (April 19-23):

WARNING: SMALL SAMPLE SIZE !!!

North Carolina (356 adults):

56% Approve
33% Disapprove

South Carolina (305 adults):

47% Approve
43% Disapprove

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/politics/2009/04/24/5018065/ElonPollData_042409.swf
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« Reply #549 on: April 25, 2009, 01:12:05 am »

Michigan (Rasmussen, April 14, 500 Likely Voters):

64% Approve
35% Disapprove

(Jennifer Granholm):

48% Approve
52% Disapprove

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/states_general/michigan/michigan_voters_say_auto_bailouts_good_bank_bailouts_bad

Isn't that high for Granholm?
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