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« Reply #600 on: April 28, 2009, 10:57:30 AM »

And you consider religious bigotry worse than racist bigotry?

I oppose both.


Have you ever written a post that isn't aggressive or sarcastic in tone?

Yes, to legitimate posters. I really don't waste my time with left wing hacks and religious bigots like you.

As often as I get upset with some of your comments....that was perfectly legitimate.

Just a pad in the echo chamber.
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« Reply #601 on: April 28, 2009, 11:01:57 AM »

Intelligent people find it very hard not to look down on overly religious types, and I have said nothing about Christians that isn't true.

You are nothing more than a pathetic, venomous slime that constantly tries to draw attention and start fires with outrageous comments.
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« Reply #602 on: April 28, 2009, 11:02:39 AM »

Maybe the "bradley effect" is finally showing up, this time on approval ratings.
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« Reply #603 on: April 28, 2009, 11:03:16 AM »

Shadow, you're so cute. I love you man.
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« Reply #604 on: April 28, 2009, 11:16:12 AM »

Maybe the "bradley effect" is finally showing up, this time on approval ratings.

I know I'm going to be crucified for this, but JJ is right in a certain sense, I'm almost sure of it.  Among the undecideds who didn't lean (in other words - the "pure"guys), it looked pretty apparent to me that they all went towards McCain (probably worth about 2% or so).  That, however, was counterbalanced by almost all polls underestimating black turnout (an extra 1%-2%, I'm pretty sure as to this exact number), along with some other really minor factors.

But that's not really a "Bradley effect" - that's more of an "undecideds" effect.

If the divergences in the polling are because people are lying, a conclusion which I'm not coming to yet, but is in my mind, the IVR vs. live questioner divergence is a big point in its favor. (remember most polls use college kids/minorities (usually black people) to conduct their polling)

Remember also, there was always the theory out there that the "Bradley" effect was more of a "media" effect - in that people were less likely to say they didn't like someone because of their race when positive media attention was showered endlessly on him.

Of course, one could argue that happened during the campaign and nothing happened.  But this might be different.

Anyway, more food for thought.
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« Reply #605 on: April 28, 2009, 12:45:05 PM »

SurveyUSA April Polls:

Alabama:

48% Approve (+1)
49% Disapprove (+2)

California:

69% Approve (+2)
27% Disapprove (-1)

Iowa:

59% Approve (+2)
35% Disapprove (-5)

Kansas:

44% Approve (-11)
50% Disapprove (+10)

Kentucky:

52% Approve (-4)
41% Disapprove (+3)

Minnesota:

63% Approve (+2)
33% Disapprove (+1)

Missouri:

57% Approve (nc)
40% Disapprove (+1)

New Mexico:

63% Approve (+2)
32% Disapprove (-3)

New York:

73% Approve (+1)
24% Disapprove (+1)

Oregon:

58% Approve (-4)
37% Disapprove (+6)

Virginia:

57% Approve (+2)
39% Disapprove (+4)

Washington:

64% Approve (+2)
30% Disapprove (-4)

Wisconsin:

56% Approve (+3)
42% Disapprove (nc)

No data for Massachusetts so far.

KS = Outlier ? Or just returning to its conservative roots ?
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« Reply #606 on: April 28, 2009, 12:47:03 PM »

Other than the OR/WA disparity, those look rather realistic for a popular Democratic president.
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« Reply #607 on: April 28, 2009, 12:54:23 PM »


Latest update (after some SurveyUSA polls):



... Survey USA is a GOP-leaning poll. It might still be accurate.

Indiana, anyone? Louisiana? Montana?




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« Reply #608 on: April 28, 2009, 12:56:35 PM »

... Survey USA is a GOP-leaning poll.

How so ?
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« Reply #609 on: April 28, 2009, 01:03:25 PM »


didn't you know, everything besides NY Times and CNN is a GOP leaning poll?
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« Reply #610 on: April 28, 2009, 01:28:56 PM »

So what did he do to piss Kansas off so royally? lol.
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« Reply #611 on: April 28, 2009, 01:31:38 PM »

Kentucky surprises me for some reason.
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« Reply #612 on: April 28, 2009, 02:06:36 PM »

Still translates into a 59% approval among adults nationally, folks.  No change.
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« Reply #613 on: April 28, 2009, 02:08:31 PM »

Those look like reasonable polls. He is a few points higher in the states than the percentage he won in the election, which is what should be expected.
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« Reply #614 on: April 28, 2009, 02:40:23 PM »

SurveyUSA April Polls:

Alabama:

48% Approve (+1)
49% Disapprove (+2)

California:

69% Approve (+2)
27% Disapprove (-1)

Iowa:

59% Approve (+2)
35% Disapprove (-5)

Kansas:

44% Approve (-11)
50% Disapprove (+10)

Kentucky:

52% Approve (-4)
41% Disapprove (+3)

Minnesota:

63% Approve (+2)
33% Disapprove (+1)

Missouri:

57% Approve (nc)
40% Disapprove (+1)

New Mexico:

63% Approve (+2)
32% Disapprove (-3)

New York:

73% Approve (+1)
24% Disapprove (+1)

Oregon:

58% Approve (-4)
37% Disapprove (+6)

Virginia:

57% Approve (+2)
39% Disapprove (+4)

Washington:

64% Approve (+2)
30% Disapprove (-4)

Wisconsin:

56% Approve (+3)
42% Disapprove (nc)

No data for Massachusetts so far.

KS = Outlier ? Or just returning to its conservative roots ?

Obama Is doing well In the states he won.Here In Missouri people are seeing he Is not the carticure Palin and others were saying.Remember Mccain only won by 4 thousand votes.
Missouri Is the Mccain state most likely to flip In 2012.I am surprised by Kentuckey.Perhapes
White Democrats are coming around.Remember Bill Clinton won It In both 92 and 96.I would be very Intrested In poll out of West Virginia.I am also surprised by him only slightly more disapproved In Alamaba than Approve.I thought It would be higher disapproval.
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« Reply #615 on: April 28, 2009, 02:43:41 PM »

Obama Is doing well In the states he won.Here In Missouri people are seeing he Is not the carticure Palin and others were saying.Remember Mccain only won by 4 thousand votes.
Missouri Is the Mccain state most likely to flip In 2012.I am surprised by Kentuckey.Perhapes
White Democrats are coming around.Remember Bill Clinton won It In both 92 and 96.I would be very Intrested In poll out of West Virginia.I am also surprised by him only slightly more disapproved In Alamaba than Approve.I thought It would be higher disapproval.

kinda reminds me of someone...
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« Reply #616 on: April 28, 2009, 02:51:42 PM »

Obama Is doing well In the states he won.Here In Missouri people are seeing he Is not the carticure Palin and others were saying.Remember Mccain only won by 4 thousand votes.
Missouri Is the Mccain state most likely to flip In 2012.I am surprised by Kentuckey.Perhapes
White Democrats are coming around.Remember Bill Clinton won It In both 92 and 96.I would be very Intrested In poll out of West Virginia.I am also surprised by him only slightly more disapproved In Alamaba than Approve.I thought It would be higher disapproval.

kinda reminds me of someone...

Yeah, I understand. However, this person is not me. IP Checks work wonders.
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« Reply #617 on: April 28, 2009, 03:34:10 PM »

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I think this will close any assumptions that Kansas could vote for Obama under a good term.
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« Reply #618 on: April 28, 2009, 03:39:48 PM »

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I think this will close any assumptions that Kansas could vote for Obama under a good term.

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« Reply #619 on: April 28, 2009, 03:44:12 PM »

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I think this will close any assumptions that Kansas could vote for Obama under a good term.


A 21-point swing not exhibited in any other states looks a heck of a lot like an anomaly to me, either in the first poll, the second or both.  Either way, I doubt Obama was +14 in KS last time and -6 now.  I don't think we can learn much from the polls together.
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« Reply #620 on: April 28, 2009, 03:49:42 PM »

SOMEONE PLEASE POLL INDIANA.
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« Reply #621 on: April 28, 2009, 03:52:11 PM »

SOMEONE PLEASE POLL INDIANA AND MONTANA.
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« Reply #622 on: April 28, 2009, 04:00:24 PM »


Totally.
If I had to guess it, it would be about
Approve: 54%
Disapprove:40%
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« Reply #623 on: April 28, 2009, 04:06:01 PM »

SOMEONE PLEASE POLL INDIANA AND MONTANA.
Are you kidding?

No one would poll the more interesting ones. Tongue
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« Reply #624 on: April 28, 2009, 04:09:21 PM »

SOMEONE PLEASE POLL INDIANA AND MONTANA.
Are you kidding?

No one would poll the more interesting ones. Tongue

You mean to say New York and California polls don't interest you? Didn't you know that they're gonna be toss-ups in 2012...? Duh...
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