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« Reply #1875 on: August 16, 2009, 11:19:09 pm »

Snap shot trends are bad.

Use this. I actually posted it before.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-presapp0605-31.html

It shows you how much of an exception Clinton really is.
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« Reply #1876 on: August 17, 2009, 07:00:55 am »

Uh, no there not bad. They show how different presidents were at similar times in their career.
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« Reply #1877 on: August 17, 2009, 08:31:31 am »

They aren't, because presidents start out differently and undergo different circumstances.
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« Reply #1878 on: August 17, 2009, 09:05:10 am »

August 14-16, 2009 - Rasmussen Tracking

Approve - 49% (+1%)
Disapprove - 50% (-2%)

Obviously yesterday was a good day for the rolling average.
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« Reply #1879 on: August 17, 2009, 02:12:04 pm »

Illinois (Rasmussen)Sad

56% Approve
42% Disapprove

(Pat Quinn)

47% Approve
49% Disapprove

This telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters in Illinois was conducted by Rasmussen Reports August 12, 2009. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_state_toplines/illinois/toplines_illinois_senate_august_12_2009
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« Reply #1880 on: August 17, 2009, 03:18:36 pm »


Uh... WHAT? Obama's definitely in a bad state ATM.
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« Reply #1881 on: August 17, 2009, 03:21:23 pm »

So Obama's current approval ratings are Bush 2004-esque.
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« Reply #1882 on: August 17, 2009, 03:23:58 pm »

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« Reply #1883 on: August 17, 2009, 03:25:26 pm »

Trends for comparison:

Carter Aug. 1977: 63/20

Reagan Aug. 1981: 60/29

Bush I Aug. 1989: 69/19

Clinton Aug. 1993: 44/48

Bush II Aug. 2001: 56/35


By early September, Carter had fallen to where Obama currently is. 
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« Reply #1884 on: August 17, 2009, 03:28:04 pm »

Presumably, they're heading much lower.  The person who flinches at a showdown always gets hit.
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« Reply #1885 on: August 17, 2009, 03:28:10 pm »

Having Illinois 7 points more Democratic than his national numbers are actually pretty damn consistent.
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« Reply #1886 on: August 17, 2009, 03:28:34 pm »

So Obama's current approval ratings are Bush 2004-esque.

Squinting

Can you imagine him at 25% in November 2012? That'd be horrible...
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« Reply #1887 on: August 17, 2009, 03:38:27 pm »

So Obama's current approval ratings are Bush 2004-esque.

Squinting

Can you imagine him at 25% in November 2012? That'd be horrible...

Yes, but the level of horrible would be determined by who the Republican Nominee is....
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« Reply #1888 on: August 17, 2009, 03:43:45 pm »

Democrats should have never wanted to win this election.  This has just been a disaster.  Democrats need to start running away from and against Obama like they did to Carter. 
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« Reply #1889 on: August 17, 2009, 03:49:43 pm »

I have confidence that his approvals will rebound by this winter.
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« Reply #1890 on: August 17, 2009, 04:46:18 pm »

Democrats should have never wanted to win this election.  This has just been a disaster.  Democrats need to start running away from and against Obama like they did to Carter. 

Don't blame the cycle. The economy isn't helping, but the real problem is a leadership vacuum.

Obama has no leadership experience and it shows. Bush may have consistently led us down the wrong path, but at least he could lead.

But, yes, you're right, it's time for 2010 Dems in vulnerable seats to shy away from White House photo ops. Maybe even for 2009.
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« Reply #1891 on: August 17, 2009, 04:54:07 pm »

Democrats should have never wanted to win this election.  This has just been a disaster.  Democrats need to start running away from and against Obama like they did to Carter. 

Don't blame the cycle. The economy isn't helping, but the real problem is a leadership vacuum.

Obama has no leadership experience and it shows. Bush may have consistently led us down the wrong path, but at least he could lead.

But, yes, you're right, it's time for 2010 Dems in vulnerable seats to shy away from White House photo ops. Maybe even for 2009.
This is a stupid statement on so many levels. Obama is still fairly popular, and is still extremely popular among the base. We have no idea what his approval ratings will be in the next year There are too many things that no one knows about that makes this a dumb statement.
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« Reply #1892 on: August 17, 2009, 04:55:50 pm »


According to Scott Rasmussen's off-year polling, he sure is.
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« Reply #1893 on: August 17, 2009, 04:57:28 pm »

And as everyone knows Rasmussen's off-year polling is terrible. There is no way Kirk is up by three in Illinois. I could see a tie or a close race but not Kirk leading.
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« Reply #1894 on: August 17, 2009, 05:00:46 pm »

And as everyone knows Rasmussen's off-year polling is terrible. There is no way Kirk is up by three in Illinois. I could see a tie or a close race but not Kirk leading.

How is a tie really all that different than a 3 point lead when you factor in the MOE?
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« Reply #1895 on: August 17, 2009, 05:05:20 pm »

And as everyone knows Rasmussen's off-year polling is terrible. There is no way Kirk is up by three in Illinois. I could see a tie or a close race but not Kirk leading.

How is a tie really all that different than a 3 point lead when you factor in the MOE?
eh I don't really ever factor in MOE's. There's a difference between a three point lead and a tie for sure though.
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« Reply #1896 on: August 17, 2009, 05:14:58 pm »




Well, I see two outliers here, one being the Ipsos poll. But, a poll being unfavourable to Obama, it must be legit. *eyeroll*
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« Reply #1897 on: August 17, 2009, 05:19:40 pm »


Doesn't matter because Ipsos and Rasmussen balance each other out.
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« Reply #1898 on: August 17, 2009, 05:30:35 pm »

Why does everyone conveniently keep forgetting that both Quinnipiac and PPP also have him at 50% nationally?
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« Reply #1899 on: August 17, 2009, 05:31:56 pm »

Why does everyone conveniently keep forgetting that both Quinnipiac and PPP also have him at 50% nationally?

Very different disapproval numbers.
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