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« Reply #2500 on: September 18, 2009, 04:41:31 pm »

Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.
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« Reply #2501 on: September 18, 2009, 04:45:33 pm »

Again, the approval rating involves "likely voters" in an odd-year election. Until someone can convince me that odd-year elections have the same level of participation as midterm elections, let alone Presidential elections, I am not going to accept the New Jersey poll except as an expression of how a Governor's campaign is going in the autumn of 2009. Of course the poll is relevant to the gubernatorial race. 
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« Reply #2502 on: September 18, 2009, 04:46:11 pm »

Explain. I basically went off polling and 2008 results.

New Mexico would go blue before Iowa or Wisconsin.
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« Reply #2503 on: September 18, 2009, 04:46:20 pm »

Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.

Neither is Wisconsin or Iowa.
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« Reply #2504 on: September 18, 2009, 04:49:12 pm »

Maine(KOS)

Favorable 68%
Unfavorable 23%

http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2009/9/16/ME/376

LOL Kos, he doesn't he try to hide his bias(or just awfulness).

In that same poll, voters are against same-sex marriage
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« Reply #2505 on: September 18, 2009, 04:49:54 pm »

Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.
Yeah and Wisconsin isnt lean R.  i could excuse this if tmth were merely mocking pb for his equally stupid maps but if hes serious...
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« Reply #2506 on: September 18, 2009, 04:52:00 pm »

Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.

Of course it's not. There isn't even a presidential election now; this is about approval ratings.
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« Reply #2507 on: September 18, 2009, 04:54:35 pm »

Well for one thing, New Jersey is not a tossup.

Of course it's not. There isn't even a presidential election now; this is about approval ratings.

My comment specifically refered to tmth's prediction "if the election were held today".
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« Reply #2508 on: September 18, 2009, 05:04:16 pm »

If the election were held today, Obama would obviously win, as a majority of Americans approve of the job he's doing.
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« Reply #2509 on: September 18, 2009, 06:00:43 pm »

I can say, at the height of Obama's controversy, what the map will probably look like in a close election-




foru94 is probably right if Obama only gets about 48% of the vote.
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« Reply #2510 on: September 18, 2009, 06:27:10 pm »

I don't agree with prbrowers logic, but instead of getting mad about it, why not just make your own tracking map?

The Maine poll looks like an outlier, and so does the New Jersey one.

If Obama is at 50% nationwide, his approval will be positive in New Jersey. Obama isn't doing well among independents or Republicans, yet his favorables in Maine is 74% among independents and 35% among Republicans. Doesn't make sense.

Just exercise some common sense people, that's all I'm saying.

You are forgetting Corzine's impact and the fact that Obama is an open buddy of his.
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« Reply #2511 on: September 18, 2009, 08:29:27 pm »

I can say, at the height of Obama's controversy, what the map will probably look like in a close election-




foru94 is probably right if Obama only gets about 48% of the vote.

Even if Obama only got 48% of the vote, New Jersey would not be a tossup.
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« Reply #2512 on: September 18, 2009, 08:30:55 pm »

I don't agree with prbrowers logic, but instead of getting mad about it, why not just make your own tracking map?

The Maine poll looks like an outlier, and so does the New Jersey one.

If Obama is at 50% nationwide, his approval will be positive in New Jersey. Obama isn't doing well among independents or Republicans, yet his favorables in Maine is 74% among independents and 35% among Republicans. Doesn't make sense.

Just exercise some common sense people, that's all I'm saying.

You are forgetting Corzine's impact and the fact that Obama is an open buddy of his.

I know right, I always see those two out bar-hopping together.
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« Reply #2513 on: September 18, 2009, 08:34:43 pm »

I can say, at the height of Obama's controversy, what the map will probably look like in a close election-




foru94 is probably right if Obama only gets about 48% of the vote.

Yes. Actually, I had no idea why I did that. I think even if Corzine can't get to 40% in the next election, Obama will still be able to get to at least 55% in 2012.
I know this because New Jersey probably just hates Corzine for being a total whore and just wants someone else. I think there will be a change of behavior
after just a small time under a far-right freak like Christie. Then again, Rhode Island has a rightie for governor...and there are some red, red states that have
pretty liberal governors. My state SORT OF comes to mind. At least there is Kansas.

Even if Obama only got 48% of the vote, New Jersey would not be a tossup.
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« Reply #2514 on: September 18, 2009, 10:38:31 pm »

I don't agree with prbrowers logic, but instead of getting mad about it, why not just make your own tracking map?

The Maine poll looks like an outlier, and so does the New Jersey one.

If Obama is at 50% nationwide, his approval will be positive in New Jersey. Obama isn't doing well among independents or Republicans, yet his favorables in Maine is 74% among independents and 35% among Republicans. Doesn't make sense.

Just exercise some common sense people, that's all I'm saying.

You are forgetting Corzine's impact and the fact that Obama is an open buddy of his.

1)No they're not.

2)Just because a Democratic governor is unpopular in a state, it does not mean it will bring Obama's numbers down.

3) That logic works the other way too. Governor Mike Beebe of Arkansas has a really high approval rating, it hasn't helped Obama's approval in Arkansas. And in West Virginia, the two Democratic senators and the governor are all fairly popular I believe, while Obama isn't.

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« Reply #2515 on: September 18, 2009, 10:45:48 pm »

They are buddies. Why are you denying it?
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« Reply #2516 on: September 19, 2009, 12:01:51 pm »



You're a Republican. Why are you denying it?
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« Reply #2517 on: September 19, 2009, 12:40:48 pm »

I'm registered  as a Republican...

Is there a problem?
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« Reply #2518 on: September 19, 2009, 01:21:54 pm »

I'm registered  as a Republican...

Is there a problem?

Not at all tough guy, but why don't you change your registration on the forum?
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« Reply #2519 on: September 19, 2009, 06:32:32 pm »

VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!!  VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!!
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« Reply #2520 on: September 19, 2009, 08:26:12 pm »

VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!!  VOTER REGISTRATION-RELATED FIGHT!!!!
Damn, Alcon! You almost made me pee myself laughing.
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« Reply #2521 on: September 19, 2009, 11:05:23 pm »

Well, it's a dispicable practice to claim to be an "independent", in an attempt to shift the center. However, its their perogative. What can we do about it? You look like a total dick for calling someone a partisan who claims that they are not a partisan. I do think it is reasonable to call someone out for claiming to be part of a particular party but oppose most its important policies.
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« Reply #2522 on: September 20, 2009, 12:09:37 am »

I'm registered  as a Republican...

Is there a problem?

Not at all tough guy, but why don't you change your registration on the forum?

Why do you care? What does this have anything to do with Corzine and Obama being political buddies?

I'm registered to the Republican Party to keep loonies like Lonegan from being on the ballot.
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« Reply #2523 on: September 20, 2009, 12:34:34 am »

Change your avatar. It would be for the best. Just ask Rowanbrandon how free he feels now.
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« Reply #2524 on: September 20, 2009, 02:30:21 am »

Virginia (Washington Post):

53% Approve
47% Disapprove

Iowa (Des Moines Register):

53% Approve
41% Disapprove
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