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« Reply #3350 on: December 25, 2009, 04:05:35 pm »

Looks like a damn Christmas US map, but good none the less.
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« Reply #3351 on: December 25, 2009, 09:12:54 pm »

How is this guys?



30-39%- Dark Dark Red
40-44%- Dark Red
45-49%- Red
Under 50% but Approval is higher than Disapproval- Pink
50-54%- Light Green
55-59%- Green
60%+- Dark Green

Let me know if you guys have any suggestions.

Pretty good.
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« Reply #3352 on: December 26, 2009, 12:07:44 am »

How is this guys?



30-39%- Dark Dark Red
40-44%- Dark Red
45-49%- Red
Under 50% but Approval is higher than Disapproval- Pink
50-54%- Light Green
55-59%- Green
60%+- Dark Green

Let me know if you guys have any suggestions.

Pretty good.
I would say switch under 50% approval but higher than disapproval to the really light blue.
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« Reply #3353 on: December 26, 2009, 01:26:42 am »

Light blue?  Why not yellow, sort of like an intersection light.  Green for good to go, yelllow for ok, and red for stop or negative.
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« Reply #3354 on: December 26, 2009, 01:34:53 am »

Light blue?  Why not yellow, sort of like an intersection light.  Green for good to go, yelllow for ok, and red for stop or negative.



Yeah, looks OK.
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« Reply #3355 on: December 26, 2009, 01:50:59 am »

VA and CO really that bad?
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« Reply #3356 on: December 26, 2009, 01:53:09 am »

2 things to add:

Nevada (Public Opinion Strategies-R)Sad

45% Approve
50% Disapprove

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/nv_ratings_wfi_121215.php

And NY has been polled by SUSA in December, it has 56-40 approval.
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« Reply #3357 on: December 26, 2009, 01:56:22 am »


CO was polled by a Republican pollster (POS) recently and it showed Obama at 43%, but Rasmussen had him at positive approval there a couple weeks ago.

VA is odd too, because Rasmussen had him close to 50% there among LV, but SUSA always has him at 40% among adults, and one could think that adult polls consist of more minority voters and therefore these adult polls in VA would show higher results for Obama.
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« Reply #3358 on: December 26, 2009, 02:22:09 am »


I was shocked as well.
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« Reply #3359 on: December 26, 2009, 02:33:24 am »


CO was polled by a Republican pollster (POS) recently and it showed Obama at 43%, but Rasmussen had him at positive approval there a couple weeks ago.

VA is odd too, because Rasmussen had him close to 50% there among LV, but SUSA always has him at 40% among adults, and one could think that adult polls consist of more minority voters and therefore these adult polls in VA would show higher results for Obama.

I think I'd go with the 'bots.
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« Reply #3360 on: December 26, 2009, 09:21:19 am »
« Edited: December 26, 2009, 03:07:00 pm by RowanBrandon »




Ok, fixed the NY one(I had the right poll numbers, just put 7 in the wrong part of the code). I don't see why the Nevada has to change, it's in the 45-49% range so it's red.

Also, I have implemented a 6 month expiration date on polls. As a poll from June or July is not very indicative of where he is at this moment.
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« Reply #3361 on: December 26, 2009, 10:29:18 am »

good job!
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« Reply #3362 on: December 26, 2009, 10:35:09 am »

I think if there's a state with 2 or more polls out in a month and released in a timespan of a few weeks, you should average them. For example in Colorado, you have a Rasmussen poll at 50-49 from the second week of December and a GOP poll from the third week at 43%. Colorado would be not as dark red after all.
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« Reply #3363 on: December 26, 2009, 11:51:59 am »

Why are you guys so focused on Virginia and Colorado?  If people are disapproving him bad there, then leave it red.  Jesus... Its like you guys want Obama to have him win it again in 2012, no....
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« Reply #3364 on: December 26, 2009, 11:56:10 am »

If I start doing averages, then Arizona goes to dark red as Rasmussen had a 40/60 poll of him there. I'd rather just stick with the latest poll, mainly because it's easier that way.
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« Reply #3365 on: December 26, 2009, 02:19:01 pm »

Why are you guys so focused on Virginia and Colorado?  If people are disapproving him bad there, then leave it red.  Jesus... Its like you guys want Obama to have him win it again in 2012, no....

Because those are likely the decisive states of 2012!
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« Reply #3366 on: December 26, 2009, 02:26:38 pm »


Nothing really changes with the CO and NV polls:

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« Reply #3367 on: December 26, 2009, 02:57:36 pm »

Excellent job, Rowan Brandon.

Word of advice: For states not polled, but each conservative or liberal leaning, I'm sure it would be fine to color them in in different colors, just as they are suspected to think.
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« Reply #3368 on: December 26, 2009, 03:14:07 pm »

I'll be honest: I do like the coloring of Pbrower's map a little better than the new one we all cooked up. 

I like the lighter shading as opposed to the solid red, green, and pink in the new one. 

As long as pbrower continues (starts?) adding to it with the polls posted, it should be fine.  Also, I totally agree with nik, that we can just color the obvious states that aren't polled in their specific color.  They aren't polled for a reason: it's obvious which way they lean. 
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« Reply #3369 on: December 26, 2009, 04:19:55 pm »

I'll be honest: I do like the coloring of Pbrower's map a little better than the new one we all cooked up. 

I like the lighter shading as opposed to the solid red, green, and pink in the new one. 

As long as pbrower continues (starts?) adding to it with the polls posted, it should be fine.  Also, I totally agree with nik, that we can just color the obvious states that aren't polled in their specific color.  They aren't polled for a reason: it's obvious which way they lean. 

His maps are filled with lies, he includes what should not be included.
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« Reply #3370 on: December 26, 2009, 11:13:41 pm »

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« Reply #3371 on: December 27, 2009, 01:33:21 am »


His maps are not fundamentally different to Rowan's.

I just like the Yellow-Green distinction better but prefer Rowan's numbering for the dates of the polls instead of the letters.

Let them create their own maps and everybody is happy.
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« Reply #3372 on: December 27, 2009, 02:14:36 am »
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His maps are not fundamentally different to Rowan's.

I just like the Yellow-Green distinction better but prefer Rowan's numbering for the dates of the polls instead of the letters.

Let them create their own maps and everybody is happy.

Thank you. Errors are not lies until one holds them to be truth once they are discredited. Opinions are not lies unless they are "bought".  Different interpretations of reality are not lies. I have made plenty of errors on these maps, and when I get caught in one, I change it.  

There are enough polls that, on the whole, obsolete polls and outliers tend to vanish. Do you remember my beef with SUSA putting out some strange polls in November? Later polls, some by SUSA itself, rendered those polls irrelevant. For now I might prefer "Registered Voters"  to "Likely Voters" because someone who has registered to vote has shown a desire to vote in the next election, and some "likely voters", especially in the 60+ age group, will definitely not vote. Some will surely die before they vote. Someone who registered to vote in the 2010 election at age 17 who turns 18 in September has much more chance of voting than someone who "hasn't missed an election since 1936, when I was too young to vote".  That "person who hasn't missed an election since 1936" is now 93 years old.  Which appearance would you prefer to bet on?

I suggest that red and blue be used for predictions of how states would vote in a forthcoming election based on information now available, as is normally done. I think that I will make my prediction based on existing polls on January 1, 2010, as few polls are likely to appear from the holiday weekend.  

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« Reply #3373 on: December 27, 2009, 07:44:50 am »

I prefer Rowan's maps.
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« Reply #3374 on: December 27, 2009, 10:49:16 am »


His maps are not fundamentally different to Rowan's.

I just like the Yellow-Green distinction better but prefer Rowan's numbering for the dates of the polls instead of the letters.

Let them create their own maps and everybody is happy.

I think they mean that he mixes favorability polls, excellent/good/fair/poor, and has used internal polls(Indiana is one IIRC).
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