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« on: November 24, 2009, 02:12:04 pm »

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Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance? If you
approve, press 1. If you disapprove, press 2.
If you’re not sure, press 3.
Approve .......................................................... 47%
Disapprove...................................................... 47%
Not Sure.......................................................... 6%

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Also, this is bad for the democrats too, but they don't care about what the people think..

Do you support or oppose President Obama’s
health care plan, or do you not have an
opinion? If you support it, press 1. If you
oppose it, press 2. If you don’t have an opinion,
press 3.
Support ........................................................... 37%
Oppose ........................................................... 52%
No Opinion...................................................... 11%

And yet polls show they support the public option...which are we to believe? Don't you think it is possible that they just disapprove of the way the health care bill has been handled by both more liberal democrats and the moderate/conservative democrats? I don't see any evidence of the majority of the country being against what is in the bill.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2009, 12:54:22 am »

North Carolina (PPP)Sad

48% Approve
47% Disapprove

"For the first time since July in PPP’s polling Barack Obama’s North Carolina approval rating is back in positive territory. He has support from 77% of Democrats, 46% of independents, and 9% of Republicans. Since Obama’s numbers hit a low point of 45/51 in the state back in September he’s seen a significant increase in his support from independents (seven points) and a smaller one with Democrats (three points). His poor reviews from Republicans have remained steady."

PPP surveyed 593 North Carolina voters from December 11th to 13th. The survey’s margin of error is +/-4.0%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NC_1217.pdf

Hmm...Obama seems to be doing better than expected along the south atlantic coast. More polls are needed of course.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 01:24:36 am »

I only take Rasmussen's approval numbers seriously. They are probably pushing the undecideds towards disapproval. Right now they are serving as a propaganda machine for the Republicans. By the time election season rolls around they will give us the "real" results (although I would take their approval numbers over any other pollsters).
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 01:35:15 pm »

Problem is some might actually believe it.

Yeah Rasmussen's disapproval numbers are perfectly innocent. Roll Eyes Anyways his approval numbers are what matters. And when election time comes around, it will be Rasmussen polls that I trust.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 02:19:14 pm »

Obama has gained back his base and that is good news for the democrats in 2010. Of course it all depends on what the definition of "good news" is. I still think they will lose up to 30 seats in the house, and maybe more, but it won't be anything ridiculous like 50-60 seats. If the economy really starts booming and some good jobs numbers come out (like +150-200k jobs at the least), the democrats may be able to contain their losses to just around 20-25. This is not likely though.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2010, 03:40:54 am »

What kind of age demographics are these national polls (Rasmussen, Gallup) using? If they are using a LV screen for the midterms to get these numbers, they are vastly underestimating the number of young voters who will turn out to vote in 2012. If this is the case, wouldn't Obama's approval be a few points higher amongst a 2012 electorate than is being shown by the current polls?
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 01:13:16 pm »

I think the Arizona immigration law is hurting Obama.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 12:54:04 pm »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 48% +3

Disapprove 51% -2


"Strongly Approve" is at 28%, +2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 40%, -2.

Even though there are good numbers, there is still erosion on the Strongly Approve numbers over the last two weeks.

If the response to the oil spill has hurt Obama, it is most likely with his base. This is why you may be seeing the slight erosion in his strongly approve numbers. And perhaps he is gaining some back due to him being slightly more aggressive with BP. Though at the end of the day these people will vote Democrat. Of course they might not turn out in the midterms.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 03:26:18 am »

Wow. Things aren't looking good for Obama.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 03:46:32 am »


SUSA didn't do a national poll AFAIK. Perhaps according to them Obama is the upper 30's nationwide.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 03:05:09 pm »


That's actually good for him there, all things considered.

But it's Rasmussen so obviously he's really +5 there.

Rasmussen's approval numbers are useful, disapproval not so much.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2010, 09:04:48 pm »

Does anyone want to predict what happens to polls after Wall Street Reform and the first stop of the gusher in the Gulf?


Not much?
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 05:12:19 pm »

I live in California. In Orange County, a swing area. Obama and the Democrats are still pretty popular here, and many people here still remember how the GOP screwed over our country and economy under Bush Jr. It would take a second Great Depression for the Republicans to win California and Washington in 2012.

I also live in California, in a Staunchly Democratic area (between 85-90% Obama), and i can tell you that the Liberals are probably the most demoralized bunch I've ever seen.  In 2008 I had no less than 4 separate people knock on my door campaigning for Obama, and ever other car had an Obama bumper sticker on it.  Nowadays, the area feels politically dead, and some of my Liberal friends are honestly considering sitting this election out (though in a D + 23 district, it's not likely to matter).

This might be an isolated case of a group of people who fit in with the Socialist party more than the Democratic party being disappointed in Obama for not bringing about the glorious people's republic, but i don't think Obama will ever be able to recapture the sort of political momentum that won him the office in 2008.  And without that, there is always a chance of him suffering a blistering defeat in 2012.

Do you live in the bay area? There are certainly a lot of demoralized left wingers here.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2010, 04:24:50 am »

So if I'm looking correctly at the map posted above by JBrase, the president holds a 50% or above approval rating in only 11 states out of 49 polled, and not including D.C.  Regardless of what the future holds for November '12, supporters of Obama have to be troubled by this....

Just speaking as an independent (yes, I voted for McCain in the general, but Hillary was my first choice), I don't see how anyone can honestly think the president is doing a good job, or even a mediocre one.  It's getting down now where a huge remainder of his supporters are doing so based solely on party ID as the majority of voters have been against nearly everything he's tried to accomplish.

He's actually gotten a lot done, even if it is half assed (blame congress, not Obama). He is certainly not a good president because he doesn't lead well. But at the same time he hasn't made any big blunders. If things remain the way they are, he will end up somewhere in the middle of Presidents in terms of job performance.

Now if you think that he shouldn't have done health care reform or financial reform, then that's a different thing. If you wanted these things done, you can't deny that he did it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2010, 05:03:55 am »

So if I'm looking correctly at the map posted above by JBrase, the president holds a 50% or above approval rating in only 11 states out of 49 polled, and not including D.C.  Regardless of what the future holds for November '12, supporters of Obama have to be troubled by this....

Just speaking as an independent (yes, I voted for McCain in the general, but Hillary was my first choice), I don't see how anyone can honestly think the president is doing a good job, or even a mediocre one.  It's getting down now where a huge remainder of his supporters are doing so based solely on party ID as the majority of voters have been against nearly everything he's tried to accomplish.

He's actually gotten a lot done, even if it is half assed (blame congress, not Obama). He is certainly not a good president because he doesn't lead well. But at the same time he hasn't made any big blunders. If things remain the way they are, he will end up somewhere in the middle of Presidents in terms of job performance.

Now if you think that he shouldn't have done health care reform or financial reform, then that's a different thing. If you wanted these things done, you can't deny that he did it.

Obama has indeed gotten a lot of his fascist agenda pushed through.

Whether you consider that a good thing or not depends on whether you approve of fascism or not.

I kinda approve of the health care bill. That means I kinda support fascism, right Libertas?
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2010, 07:47:48 pm »

So if I'm looking correctly at the map posted above by JBrase, the president holds a 50% or above approval rating in only 11 states out of 49 polled, and not including D.C.  Regardless of what the future holds for November '12, supporters of Obama have to be troubled by this....

Just speaking as an independent (yes, I voted for McCain in the general, but Hillary was my first choice), I don't see how anyone can honestly think the president is doing a good job, or even a mediocre one.  It's getting down now where a huge remainder of his supporters are doing so based solely on party ID as the majority of voters have been against nearly everything he's tried to accomplish.

He's actually gotten a lot done, even if it is half assed (blame congress, not Obama). He is certainly not a good president because he doesn't lead well. But at the same time he hasn't made any big blunders. If things remain the way they are, he will end up somewhere in the middle of Presidents in terms of job performance.

Now if you think that he shouldn't have done health care reform or financial reform, then that's a different thing. If you wanted these things done, you can't deny that he did it.

Obama has indeed gotten a lot of his fascist agenda pushed through.

Whether you consider that a good thing or not depends on whether you approve of fascism or not.

I kinda approve of the health care bill. That means I kinda support fascism, right Libertas?

I think that he supports the idea that a healthy economic system succeeds by bleeding everyone else to support some "right people" whose enrichment and indulgence is understood to be the definitive good irrespective of the hardships imposed upon everyone else and whose mystical virtues (really, crude exercise of economic power) are not to be challenged. 

Is that you describe Obama's fascist "healthcare reform"?

President Obama's healthcare reform is anything but fascist. I refer instead to tycoons and executives who act as if everyone else is either livestock or vermin. Such an attitude is fascism in its crudest form.

 It would appear that you understand neither the nature of fascism nor the nature of ObamaCare, which is fascism in action.

Yeah, it was after the passage of MussoliniCare that most people realized what a horrible, fascistic government Italy had.
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2010, 01:02:06 am »


So Obama has a lower approval rating in Oregon than in Virginia?
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2010, 07:19:01 pm »

FL (Rasmussen): 49-50

OH (Rasmussen): 46-53

Looks like VA, OH and FL will be the states that decide who is president in 2012. Colorado seems to have gone back to a Republican lean.
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2010, 02:43:19 am »

Wow...I had no idea just how bad it's gotten...but the last 10 days, Obama's approval has sunk big-time. Down to 41% in some polls. Not long before he gets into George Bush 2007 territory.

I hope you don't cry if Obama wins in 2012. You seem to really have your hopes up.....
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2010, 03:54:45 am »

Ok, I thought those GA number looked a little weird. Heres a more realistic (though a bit higher than  though for GA) poll from Ras today.

GA: 44/53
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GA is one of those states that will probably trend towards Obama, regardless of the final outcome, in 2012. So it's not surprising to get a few polls that show higher support than one would think considering his national numbers. The same can be said of NC, SC, FL, VA etc.... Basically more urbanized southern states seem to be sticking with Obama to a certain extent. On the other hand look at his approvals in most of the upper midwest and rocky mountains. Lower than one would think considering his approval is still in the mid 40s.
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2010, 02:25:15 pm »

I think that Americans are getting disgusted with politics of all kinds -- conservative, liberal, and Hard Right. Maybe politics can't deliver prosperity, but as the previous Administration proves, they can surely bring ruin.

If this isn't simply the news cycle, then we are in for some real ugliness in political life -- ugliness unprecedented in severity since the Civil War and in style in this country.

One of the major problem is that the majority is shifting and Obama is left (out to the left).

It is possibly a sign of a realignment (to the right).




If such is so, then all the learning, natural resources, and technology that Americans have are pearls before swine. Welcome to Weimar America.



No, welcome to populist/libertarian America.

Isn't a populist the exact opposite of a libertarian?

As for your realignment theory, yes there is a realignment. Away from the two major parties that is.
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Isn't a populist the exact opposite of a libertarian?

No, not in the least. 

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As for your realignment theory, yes there is a realignment. Away from the two major parties that is.

That would be de-alignment and we are getting more partisan. 

You seriously think there will be a realignment towards Republicans when more people disapprove of their job in the congress than the Democrats? It doesn't mean the Democrats don't lose big in 2010, since they are the incumbents. But what it means is that Republican support will be very shallow and the electorate could abandon them for the slightest of reasons. 
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Isn't a populist the exact opposite of a libertarian?

No, not in the least. 

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As for your realignment theory, yes there is a realignment. Away from the two major parties that is.

That would be de-alignment and we are getting more partisan. 

You seriously think there will be a realignment towards Republicans when more people disapprove of their job in the congress than the Democrats? It doesn't mean the Democrats don't lose big in 2010, since they are the incumbents. But what it means is that Republican support will be very shallow and the electorate could abandon them for the slightest of reasons. 
It is more than hating the incumbents; they are starting to hate what the incumbents stand for.

Like 2008?
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Isn't a populist the exact opposite of a libertarian?

No, not in the least. 

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As for your realignment theory, yes there is a realignment. Away from the two major parties that is.

That would be de-alignment and we are getting more partisan. 

You seriously think there will be a realignment towards Republicans when more people disapprove of their job in the congress than the Democrats? It doesn't mean the Democrats don't lose big in 2010, since they are the incumbents. But what it means is that Republican support will be very shallow and the electorate could abandon them for the slightest of reasons. 
It is more than hating the incumbents; they are starting to hate what the incumbents stand for.

Like 2008?

When they elected even more Democrats?

2006 is a better comparison, I agree. But a lot of people still felt that the Republicans were incumbents in 2008 because Bush was still president. You would be surprised at how little people know about the house and senate.
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2010, 02:05:18 pm »


Isn't a populist the exact opposite of a libertarian?

No, not in the least. 

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As for your realignment theory, yes there is a realignment. Away from the two major parties that is.

That would be de-alignment and we are getting more partisan. 

You seriously think there will be a realignment towards Republicans when more people disapprove of their job in the congress than the Democrats? It doesn't mean the Democrats don't lose big in 2010, since they are the incumbents. But what it means is that Republican support will be very shallow and the electorate could abandon them for the slightest of reasons. 

It is not incumbency.  The electorate is rejecting the ideology of the Democrats of 2006-2008.  They are however, not turning to the Republican ideology of 2000-2006.  They are moving in a different direction.

I don't necessarily disagree with you there, but I don't think this new movement is towards hard right politics. Rather it's a move away from business as usual in Washington and a search for common sense politicians ( this is why Obama was so popular when he was promising change in Washington). What seems to concern the tea partiers (like how Obama might be a muslim/foreigner, or how he is trying to take away "their" country) does not seem to concern normal Americans. The only thing the median voter and the Tea party share in common is frustration.
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