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« on: June 11, 2010, 12:57:27 am »
« edited: June 11, 2010, 01:05:42 am by GOP_Represent »


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 49% +3

Disapprove 50% -1


"Strongly Approve" is at 26%, +1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, -1.


A good Obama sample, but that Strongly Approve number is still showing a drop.

49% approval for an incumbent before the electoral campaign begins in earnest almost always implies a victory. There will be those who won't be happy with either the incumbent or the challenger, and will hibernate in the election. George W. Bush had lower approvals throughout most of 2004 and still won despite having a high rate of "strong disapproval".

That of course is also before the campaign apparatus comes out of mothballs, and we all know how good the Obama campaign was in 2008. That is before we know who the GOP nominee is and what weaknesses he has ... and how the Obama campaign will be able to exploit them.

John McCain looked strong going into the Republican convention even with the economy on the brink of a meltdown. His war record was unassailable. He couldn't be tied to the blatant corruption and incompetence of an unpopular administration.    

 

I hate people when they don't check their facts. Bush was as high as 60% in early 2004. He dipped to a low of ~47%. But also was able to get to 53% before the election. This is all according to Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx    ). Not once was he below 44%, which is where Obama is today.

Check your facts, or you'll lose credibility just as fast as the current POTUS.

You also don't understand politics. Campaigns don't really matter (unless it's close ie Gore vs. Bush, or if one candidates campaigns and the other one doesn't) Presidential elections are judged on two things:

1. Economy (Which was tanking)
2. Incumbent's popularity (Bush's approval rating was so low)

I don't care who was running in 2008, no Republican would have won. It's that simple.

Bush won the election for Obama, just as Nixon won it for Carter. 2008 wasn't a realigning election just as 1976 wasn't. It was a vote against the Republican party. 2012 will show that.
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 10:13:46 pm »

http://today.yougov.co.uk/sites/today.yougov.co.uk/files/YG-Archives-Pol-USArelations-210710.pdf

President Obama has a 64/21 approval rating in the UK. Wink I love my country.

Bush's last recorded UK approval was June 2006 at 16/77.

You don't think that has anything to do with the media? The UK are still in love with Obama because they are still riding on his campaign rhetoric, and not be effected by his awful policies.

As for Bush, it was 'cool' to hate Bush post-2006 especially, and I wouldn't be surprised that many people lied just to fit in.

I don't trust those UK numbers at all for either president - they surely don't indicate to me that Obama's policies are good and successful, while Bush's beyond horrible.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 12:52:46 pm »

Obamacare is more socialist than fascist. However, the mandate that forces you to buy the healthcare is indeed a fascist element.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 08:37:46 pm »

Obamacare is more socialist than fascist. However, the mandate that forces you to buy the healthcare is indeed a fascist element.

Are you preparing to say that the requirement that people buy automotive liability insurance before driving a motor vehicle is "fascist"?


One issue is that people are being paid so poorly or are being worked (part time work only available) so that they cannot get medical insurance and that it is extremely expensive.
Another is that people in their fifties are being cast off because of the expense of medical insurance as a benefit.



But the Government can't require you to buy a car. That's the difference.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 12:45:54 am »
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Obamacare is more socialist than fascist. However, the mandate that forces you to buy the healthcare is indeed a fascist element.

Are you preparing to say that the requirement that people buy automotive liability insurance before driving a motor vehicle is "fascist"?


One issue is that people are being paid so poorly or are being worked (part time work only available) so that they cannot get medical insurance and that it is extremely expensive.
Another is that people in their fifties are being cast off because of the expense of medical insurance as a benefit.



But the Government can't require you to buy a car. That's the difference.

Sure, but the government can establish transportation policies and building practices that all but necessitate access to a private automobile.

Not really. I just got a job this week. I am in walking distance of my office. I will be walking every day. Wow. Did the government force me to buy a car? No. If they did force me to buy a car by threatening sanction otherwise, would that be unconstitutional? Yes. Hmm.....

And you miss the point, anyway. Can the government indirectly influence people as you suggest? Sure. But the mandate in the health care bill is DIRECTLY INFLUENCING PEOPLE. You lose the argument right there. So there's no need for me to carry on.

Stop trying to defend the once Messiah. He's fallen from grace -- and how!
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 11:25:10 pm »

FOX News: 43-50

Congressional Ballot: 47R-36D

Sample: 41R, 37D, 16I

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/072910_ObamaElections.pdf

Interesting:

Obama loses among Independents in this poll by 36-56, but he was leading in the Ipsos poll by double-digits.

FoX Propaganda Channel must be assuming a huge D-to-R shift of voters even when the GOP isn't gaining much respect.

Garbage in, garbage out.

I know Fox News has Obama's approval rating as one of the lowest as of today. But over all, it's tended on the higher (well at the very least medium) end of the spectrum.

Once again people are using numbers only when it suits them. Fox News, while the organization itself is clearly bias, has had pretty fair polls of Obama for the past 2 years.

I didn't hear anyone complaining about Fox New polls when it had Obama's approval ratings and similar polls of his administration higher than most. But since they show him in trouble? Oh, it must be bias and wrong! Sigh.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 12:35:12 am »

FOX News: 43-50

Congressional Ballot: 47R-36D

Sample: 41R, 37D, 16I

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/072910_ObamaElections.pdf

Interesting:

Obama loses among Independents in this poll by 36-56, but he was leading in the Ipsos poll by double-digits.

FoX Propaganda Channel must be assuming a huge D-to-R shift of voters even when the GOP isn't gaining much respect.

Garbage in, garbage out.

I know Fox News has Obama's approval rating as one of the lowest as of today. But over all, it's tended on the higher (well at the very least medium) end of the spectrum.

Once again people are using numbers only when it suits them. Fox News, while the organization itself is clearly bias, has had pretty fair polls of Obama for the past 2 years.

I didn't hear anyone complaining about Fox New polls when it had Obama's approval ratings and similar polls of his administration higher than most. But since they show him in trouble? Oh, it must be bias and wrong! Sigh.

FoX used to have objective polls and could have them again. This one is a turkey.

So what happened in the last month or two that made Fox News Polls unbelievable? Did they only just switch from being fair and balanced to being right wing oriented? Once again, sigh.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 08:43:07 pm »

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the new USA Today/Gallup poll that has Obama at 41%....ouch.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2010, 08:30:48 pm »

Obama is in decline. The majority of polls show that he's in negative territory. Ironically, Rasmussen is one of the most positive for him...

It's the news cycle. If there should be a rash of forest fires, then the President's approval rating goes down even if the culprit is an insane arsonist.

You have realized that the President is the media golden boy now, and no longer the media scapegoat, right?
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2010, 08:53:23 am »

Big news -- the last US combat troops are leaving Iraq.

Hallelujah!

I think you just had you 'Mission Accomplished' moment.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2010, 08:53:45 am »

Big news -- the last US combat troops are leaving Iraq.

Hallelujah!

I think you just had your 'Mission Accomplished' moment.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2010, 09:01:58 am »


Accident lol
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2010, 11:36:43 am »

Polls on the next few days should be.... interesting.

Depends on the media coverage. Iraq hasn't been in the mainstream news for 1-2 years now.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 10:02:18 am »

To go back to yesterday's discussion - Obama's charismatic campaign of 2008 will not translate to 2012. He's been seen as the fraud he is, and no mantra of "hope and change" or any other rhetorical slogan will help him out this time. People now see through Obama.

The only way he wins re-election is if the economy is much stronger. However, with economists predicting it to be ~9% through 2011, I just don't see that happening.

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 03:08:28 pm »

I may attempt to purchase an apartment in Canada if things keep going this way.

So if GOPer's want to take back the White House in 2012, Obama will have to be as big of a failure as Carter, and they'll also have to find another Reagan.

Obama will be.

And the GOP has Mitt Romney.

Nuff said.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2010, 06:28:17 pm »

Rasmussen has now put the statewide approvals for President on a premium service.
Wow, that sucks. Sad

That's fine with me. No offense, but maps with several colors are really difficult to look at.
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2010, 12:47:21 pm »

His numbers have been remarkably consistent since early this year.  I wonder why now of all times he would be seeing a bit of a boost when there still seems to be an anti-incumbent fervor out there.  

Funny how Gallup always gave him better numbers before and now that Rasmussen has him back above 50% Gallup is showing him at 44%.

 

Maybe that fervor is waning.  Match Gallup for corroboration or refutation.

Too bad Rasmussen doesn't show statewide polls except on a premium service.

Here is a fairly good source for data on Senatorial races:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2010/Senate/Maps/Sep25-s.html#3

Keeping grasping at those straws....

Nothing, and I mean nothing, has happened to warrant any rebound for Obama. Ras. is just an outlire  at the moment.
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2010, 11:08:29 am »

46% - Rass. Told you yesterday was an outlier. Normal service resumed.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2010, 02:03:36 pm »
« Edited: October 31, 2010, 02:28:08 pm by Mitt Romney's Hair »

CNN is propaganda as well, it's all how you look at it. Any news station can spew out their biased garbage. Left-wing, right-wing etc...

CNN was four-square behind George Worthless Bush until 2006. Which way does the wind blow? There you will find CNN.

American news media fear Karl Rogue as if he were a General Secretary of the Communist Party in a "socialist" state.  

I don't care what you think about the man, but the fact is Bush had a very good first term. I support him less on his last 4 years, but overall I really like the man, and that liking comes especially from his first 4 years in office.

I'm getting his book for Xmas, and can't wait to read it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2010, 05:52:04 pm »

...and what's your plan for the day after Christmas then?

Tongue I tease... you gave me the opening...

To continue reading? I'm not religious at all. I'm an atheist/agnostic and hate the religious part of the GOP and is why I lean heavily liberal on societal issue. But I love foreign policy more. And I identify myself as fiscally conservative, too, so I line up with the Republicans - although I guess I'm a moderate by definition.

But there's something about Bush I really admire. His ability to change stances (against nation building in 2000 to promotion of democracies post 911) is admirable.

I just turned 13 in 2000, so I was too young to care, but after maturing the Wilsonian, Truman, and then Bush mentality has really appealed to me.

You can hate Bush's policies all you want. Even I think some were poorly executed.

But in my opinion, Bush was a real leader and that counts heavily in my mind considering the nation needed a leader.

This is where Obama has failed. Again, you can like or dislike his policies. I don't like them, of course. But whatever your opinion is on his policies, the fact is that he's a VERY POOR leader.

And for this reason alone, I'd pick Bush every time. History will judge him well. He's already getting more suppot. Just wait for 20 years down the line. Bush was a good president. And I feel bad for him and the unfair criticism he gets.
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2011, 03:29:18 pm »

Mini rally effect, anyone? (Sure, he's been ticking upwards - slightly - for a month or so now, but this is the first time he's in positive territory on RCP Avg).
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2011, 08:57:11 pm »

Barack Obama seems to have recieved a mini-bump lately, perhaps part of the bounce may be because of his speech last night?

Obama's not winning Texas if he trails Palin by fifteen points.

I suspect that he would beat Sarah Palin in Texas. Such says more about Sarah Palin than about President Obama.

No Democrat would beat any Republican in Texas in this current environment. You're losing credibility with every post you make. Please, understand the electorate and the political system. [The comparison here would be: Obama will lose Washington DC.....erm, simply not gonna happen, no matter how badly Obama does]
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2011, 10:47:59 am »
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+3.3% on RCP avg. The economy is still in shatters, unemployment is still above 9%....this HAS to be a mini rally effect from last weekend - and his resulting speech. There's really no other way to explain this.

I expect his numbers to tank again within 2 weeks - should nothing else of note happen.
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2011, 03:22:56 pm »

But who cares what an adult who is not a registered voter thinks anyway?  They are irrelevant to the political process.

New voters may swing heavily toward President Obama as in 2008, and old voters might go into hibernation, at least in the Presidential election.

Remember:

Some of the people who will be voting in the 2012 election are now barely 16 years old. Some have just achieved citizenship.


Little bit of wishful thinking, no? Obama will not have the same magic as he did in 2008. A lot of people - youth included - have become so disillusioned with him. In fact, there's more of a chance the youth will stay home, and the elders will seek to vote him out of office.
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2011, 03:27:52 pm »

OK, can someone explain to me what are the reasons behind Obama's spectacular rise?
It's not like something fundamental changed in a month or so to see his numbers surge so dramatically.

If basic reality has changed little -- the economy is still a mess, the Korean Peninsula remains a powderkeg, and we are still in combat in Afghanistan -- perceptions are changing. The flippant attitude that many Americans have toward some right-wing rhetoric is no more.

Time will show whether Americans accept some of the zanier statements and behavior of some elected Republicans. The more pragmatic GOP politicians will likely have no difficulty in winning re-election. The rest? They will have to be in ultra-safe districts.  

You're reading far too much into it. It's clearly the rally effect due to the shooting and his resulting speech. Maybe he can ride it into the next big news cycle and take momentum from it. If not, he's just going to level back out to where he was 3 weeks ago once the media move on to the next story.

And in any case, the majority of Americans think Conservatives were unfairly targeted for their rhetoric, so your theory holds no substance as is.
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