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« on: January 31, 2009, 09:31:01 PM »
« edited: February 01, 2009, 02:14:17 PM by General Secretary realisticidealist »

What issues do you disagree with your party on? Where do you think that the mainstream of your party is out of line? Even if

For me, as a Democrat, I disagree with them on:
  • Roe v. Wade (I support repealing it and letting the states decide)
  • Gun control
  • Affirmative action
  • School vouchers (though I also support increasing education funding)
  • Religious charities
  • Social security (I support privatization for those who want it, in addition to other changes)
  • Amnesty
  • Lack of an emphasis on balanced budgets
  • Israel (though the Republicans are no better)
  • Opposing nuclear power
  • Drug policy (Republicans are worse)
  • Prostitution and other victimless crimes (once again, Republicans are worse)
  • PATRIOT Act (see above)
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 09:37:34 PM »

As a democrat:

Israel(GOP is even worth)
social security
amnesty
mass immigration
gun control
affirmative action
lack of fiscal conservatism
green idiocy
top down social engineering
favoring prohitibion
religious charities
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 10:10:04 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2009, 11:31:28 PM by Mint »

  • Iraq
  • Gun control
  • Affirmative action
  • School vouchers
  • Religious charities
  • Social security
  • Amnesty
  • Lack of an emphasis on balanced budgets
  • Drug Policy (though the Republicans are no better)
  • Knee Jerk 'Environmentalism' (e.g. opposing Nuclear Power)
  • Protectionism/Free Trade (Some anyway)
  • PATRIOT Act(Still better than the GOP)
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 10:26:42 PM »

-Drug Policy
-The PATRIOT Act
-Being center-right economically
-Allowing trash like Lieberman in our caucus
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009, 10:59:31 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2009, 11:31:41 PM by Mint »

I almost put that down, but there are substantial minorities flat out against it and it seems like the bulk is at least trying to tone it down. Can't really say that about the GOP.

Might as well add it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 11:03:06 PM »
« Edited: February 01, 2009, 11:44:01 AM by Senator SPC »

Immigration - I think that people should be able to go where they want
Iraq and Afghanistan - We should withdraw immediately (Don't ask me why this position isn't in the Libertarian platform)
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2009, 11:04:41 PM »

Immigration - I think that people should be able to go where they want
That's the actual libertarian party stance...
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2009, 11:06:00 PM »

Given how the west would be MUCH better off had it's post 1960s immigraiton never happened to it the LP stance is really just insane.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2009, 11:22:52 PM »

-Protectionism/free trade
-with the Gun control Radicals
- biofules
- Farm subsidies
- often on health care



-I've seen a lot of people here list nucular power, but that is not the Democrat's fault. Nucular Power is ungodly expensive so I doubt the free market would have built any more.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2009, 11:49:06 PM »

Health Care (reform is needed; enact regulations protecting the consumer)
Immigration (given that the entitlement programs will never go away, heavy restrictions on who can come are needed)
Prostitution (off the streets at any cost; keep it in brothels & regulated)
Taxation (eliminating the debt is of the utmost concern; make the tax code more progressive)
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2009, 03:05:37 AM »

  • Iraq
  • Gun control
  • Affirmative action
  • School vouchers
  • Religious charities
  • Social security
  • Amnesty
  • Lack of an emphasis on balanced budgets
  • Drug Policy (though the Republicans are no better)
  • Knee Jerk 'Environmentalism' (e.g. opposing Nuclear Power)
  • Protectionism/Free Trade (Some anyway)
  • PATRIOT Act(Still better than the GOP)

So basically every major and major-minor issue aside from Health Care?
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2009, 03:21:22 AM »
« Edited: February 01, 2009, 03:51:57 AM by Mint »

Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-universal healthcare, anti-Bush Tax Cuts Republicans out there. Right? I mean there must be because you and every other liberal constantly tells me I'm really a Republican even though none of the GOP leadership even remotely tolerates moderate views let alone my own. Also a lot of that list only applies to some of the party (re: liberals). My dislike for liberal ideology isn't quite the same as my dislike for what the Republican Party as a whole has turned into. Just because I like a few token moderates like Arnold, Snowe, and Carcieri (and even then not so much - I'm pulling for Ciciline) doesn't mean they're relevant or that I'd feel comfortable with an R near my name right now.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2009, 10:41:22 AM »

I dont really support any party, but I consider the party I would vote for to be UKIP, so here goes:

- Devolution (I support a confederated decentralised Britain)
- Electoral reform (I support proportional representation and direct democracy)
- Education (I support trying to introduce the International Baccalaureate on a wider scale)
- Taxation (I support abolishing VAT)
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2009, 12:33:14 PM »

Just become a dem already.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2009, 12:38:48 PM »

Drug policy
Fiscal irresponsibility
Prostitution
Gay marriage
Terri Schiavo

Also, while I haven't been completely sold on climate-change, I am not ready to summarily dismiss it the way a lot of Republicans are.
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2009, 01:23:55 PM »


He will. When Mint becomes a Republican Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2009, 01:37:31 PM »

Immigration
Gun control
Prostitution
Gay rights
Abortion
Fiscal irresponsibility (although I am optimistic we are fixing this)
Environmental policy (although I agreed with McCain's, not sure if that's representative of the party as a whole)
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2009, 01:49:51 PM »



Already
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2009, 07:35:44 PM »

Israel (support)
free trade (generally support)
gay rights (support complete equality)
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2009, 09:55:51 PM »

I suppose immigration, to some extent. To be honest (at the risk of sounding hackish) there isn't a great deal I can think of off the top of my head that I disagree with the liberal wing of the party on. I suppose the need to compromise, waffling on civil liberties, and not wanting to take strong anti-illegal immigration measures.
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2009, 10:51:50 PM »


And most Democrats don't?
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2009, 12:19:51 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2009, 12:25:12 AM »

Not much today.  But even though I was a staunch liberal, I disagreed with my party on the impeachment of President Clinton.  I actually supported it...based solely on my belief that he committed perjury. 

(Even though I regarded the investigation leading up to his testimony to be completely unecessary and utterly motivated by political, and to some extent, religious hatred.)
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2009, 01:21:14 AM »


What does Duke have to do with this? You are two different people.

His being a Republican has nothing to do with the fact that you should be a Democrat. Then again, he, too, should probably be a Democrat. Smiley

Also, my being a Republican has nothing to do with the fact that you should be a Democrat. You are the one who needs to switch parties, not me.

Oh, and insulting me will not switch a thing. Except for (perhaps) my avatar on this site, and even then I would switch only to D.

I might add, so what if I "should" (according to you) be Constitutionalist? That does not mean that you should not be a Democrat, nor does it make your being a Republican any better than my being one.
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2009, 01:27:16 AM »


What does Duke have to do with this? You are two different people.

His being a Republican has nothing to do with the fact that you should be a Democrat. Then again, he, too, should probably be a Democrat. Smiley

Also, my being a Republican has nothing to do with the fact that you should be a Democrat. You are the one who needs to switch parties, not me.

Oh, and insulting me will not switch a thing. Except for (perhaps) my avatar on this site, and even then I would switch only to D.

I might add, so what if I "should" (according to you) be Constitutionalist? That does not mean that you should not be a Democrat, nor does it make your being a Republican any better than my being one.

Dude, seriously, what is it with you switching to a Dem avatar? I understand it's a protest against the Republicans on this board for being too liberal, but why not switch to a tan avatar or, at the very least, independent? Why protest the "liberal" party by joining the even more liberal party? It just doesn't make sense to me.
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